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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: DaveP] #7986307
11/03/23 09:32 PM
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Look at history, the fall of the Roman Empire .
Follow it to today.
Only difference is some of us see it coming.


We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: Ohio Wolverine] #7986314
11/03/23 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine
While that may be true, they still have to have a reason to take the chance that they do coming in illegally.

Exactly -- the ones coming in now are not taking any jobs. Much different than the ones coming across 20 years ago.

Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: DaveP] #7986318
11/03/23 09:48 PM
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I see a lot of criticism directed at the Biden administration--most of it justified, I agree.

But the Trump administration was worse as far as twiddling thumbs over the illegal immigrant problem. His first two years, Trump had GOP majorities in both houses of Congress. They could have passed a bill while the Dems were helpless to stop them. The Democrats didn't have to stand aside because the Republicans didn't offer a bill for needed changes in the law. Where were the critics of immigration policy then?

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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: DaveP] #7986321
11/03/23 09:53 PM
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If you solve a problem, you don't have an issue to run on.


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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: James] #7986323
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Originally Posted by James
I see a lot of criticism directed at the Biden administration--most of it justified, I agree.

But the Trump administration was worse as far as twiddling thumbs over the illegal immigrant problem. His first two years, Trump had GOP majorities in both houses of Congress. They could have passed a bill while the Dems were helpless to stop them. The Democrats didn't have to stand aside because the Republicans didn't offer a bill for needed changes in the law. Where were the critics of immigration policy then?

Jim


James -- do you remember what our "dems" were busy doing to trump the entire time he was in office? -- I am sure you do. Leave it to lawyers to ALWAYS be on the other side. Right and wrong don't matter to a lawyer.

Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: H2ORat] #7986326
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Originally Posted by H2ORat
Originally Posted by James
I see a lot of criticism directed at the Biden administration--most of it justified, I agree.

But the Trump administration was worse as far as twiddling thumbs over the illegal immigrant problem. His first two years, Trump had GOP majorities in both houses of Congress. They could have passed a bill while the Dems were helpless to stop them. The Democrats didn't have to stand aside because the Republicans didn't offer a bill for needed changes in the law. Where were the critics of immigration policy then?

Jim


James -- do you remember what our "dems" were busy doing to trump the entire time he was in office? -- I am sure you do. Leave it to lawyers to ALWAYS be on the other side. Right and wrong don't matter to a lawyer.


If Trump can't take the heat of the office, why is he running again?

And why would you vote for him again?

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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: DaveP] #7986328
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As I remember it, Trump was trying to build a wall. And I believe you need sixty votes in the Senate to enact law. Trump had fifty-four.

Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: James] #7986334
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Originally Posted by James
I see a lot of criticism directed at the Biden administration--most of it justified, I agree.

But the Trump administration was worse as far as twiddling thumbs over the illegal immigrant problem. His first two years, Trump had GOP majorities in both houses of Congress. They could have passed a bill while the Dems were helpless to stop them. The Democrats didn't have to stand aside because the Republicans didn't offer a bill for needed changes in the law. Where were the critics of immigration policy then?

Jim


LOL You only remember what you're told to remember , or are very selective in your memories.


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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: James] #7986338
11/03/23 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by James
I see a lot of criticism directed at the Biden administration--most of it justified, I agree.

But the Trump administration was worse as far as twiddling thumbs over the illegal immigrant problem. His first two years, Trump had GOP majorities in both houses of Congress. They could have passed a bill while the Dems were helpless to stop them. The Democrats didn't have to stand aside because the Republicans didn't offer a bill for needed changes in the law. Where were the critics of immigration policy then?

Jim




What is it 8 or 9 years of false accusations , and nothing has been proven?
Every time there's proof of the Biden/Obama administration wrong doings, a new accusation against Trump comes about !
Haven't you paid any attention to the pattern ?
Stick your head back in the sand , and let people with their own minds figure this out.


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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: James] #7986339
11/03/23 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by James
I see a lot of criticism directed at the Biden administration--most of it justified, I agree.

But the Trump administration was worse as far as twiddling thumbs over the illegal immigrant problem. His first two years, Trump had GOP majorities in both houses of Congress. They could have passed a bill while the Dems were helpless to stop them. The Democrats didn't have to stand aside because the Republicans didn't offer a bill for needed changes in the law. Where were the critics of immigration policy then?

Jim




Both houses of congress?
Please explain.


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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: DaveP] #7986342
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It would appear congress hasn't passed any extensive immigration reform law since 1986. Most of the changes come from E.O.s


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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: DaveP] #7986344
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The two house of Congress are the Senate and House of Representatives.

You must have been passing notes to girls or something if you missed it in civics class.

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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: Dirt] #7986346
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Originally Posted by Dirt
It would appear congress hasn't passed any extensive immigration reform law since 1986. Most of the changes come from E.O.s



EO's?
There's only one house of congress , same as one house of senate !


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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: DaveP] #7986350
11/03/23 10:44 PM
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Uh, no.

"EO" means executive orders.

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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: DaveP] #7986356
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I guess the Democrats' are smart enough to rig an election in 50 states, get an impeachment, grand jury indictments and 40 felonies on trump and the Republican party cant get a court to look into Biden?? Pretty sad state of party to say the least. But back to the illegals, how is it the survive without jobs?? I hear all the talk about free hand outs, every thing from free housing and medical to cell phones but I guess I dont see it in my travels. I will agree some have caused problems that make the news but per capita Im guessing it is more home grown Americans that end up in the justice system. America has a shortage of low paid back breaking work that very few Americans will be willing to fill the job. I see it in every town I travel to and I travel alot. I have stayed in several Trump hotels and most workers doing grounds work, kitchen work and hotel room maid service I am betting are illegal or maybe made legal and cant get any other work. A majority of the ranches and farms I visit can not hire enough or pay enough to get any other labor. I just visited several wheat farms in Colorado and they get South Africans to cut wheat same in Kansas. The fruit orchards in Co. and Wa. are full of migrant workers. As far as Im concerned they should cut out the handouts to anyone that comes into welfare or unemployment offices unless they are willing to do any job. Its real easy to find a common enemy and blame all are troubles on them. Hitler did that in WW 2 the Jews were the cause of all of Germanys problems, according to Hitler.

Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: James] #7986361
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Originally Posted by James
The two house of Congress are the Senate and House of Representatives.

You must have been passing notes to girls or something if you missed it in civics class.

Jim

You need sixty votes to pass in the Senate. You have a law degree, eh?

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Those people are already in America illegally before the wire. The border is the middle of the river. Now they have to be processed.

I didn't make the law.


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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: James] #7986367
11/03/23 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by James
The two house of Congress are the Senate and House of Representatives.

You must have been passing notes to girls or something if you missed it in civics class.

Jim


More than likely hunting or working to help the family make ends meet.
I thought the senate and congress were two different houses.
Still if the congress votes one way , the senate can vote the other , and the senate seems to rule.
Guess it depends on how many liberals are in the senate?


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Originally Posted by Posco
Originally Posted by James
The two house of Congress are the Senate and House of Representatives.

You must have been passing notes to girls or something if you missed it in civics class.

Jim

You need sixty votes to pass in the Senate. You have a law degree, eh?


A simple majority in both houses is sufficient to pass. https://www.house.gov/the-house-explained/the-legislative-process#:~:text=In%20the%20Senate%2C%20the%20bill,Senate%20versions%20of%20the%20bill.

Why is there so much misinformation here?

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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: DaveP] #7986398
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I'm in a battle of wits with the unarmed! lol

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