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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: DaveP] #7986400
11/03/23 11:51 PM
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Well I guess some of us know what the Indians felt like when the Europeans came in, Karma??

Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: danvee] #7986404
11/04/23 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by danvee
I guess the Democrats' are smart enough to rig an election in 50 states, get an impeachment, grand jury indictments and 40 felonies on trump and the Republican party cant get a court to look into Biden?? Pretty sad state of party to say the least. But back to the illegals, how is it the survive without jobs?? I hear all the talk about free hand outs, every thing from free housing and medical to cell phones but I guess I dont see it in my travels. I will agree some have caused problems that make the news but per capita Im guessing it is more home grown Americans that end up in the justice system. America has a shortage of low paid back breaking work that very few Americans will be willing to fill the job. I see it in every town I travel to and I travel alot. I have stayed in several Trump hotels and most workers doing grounds work, kitchen work and hotel room maid service I am betting are illegal or maybe made legal and cant get any other work. A majority of the ranches and farms I visit can not hire enough or pay enough to get any other labor. I just visited several wheat farms in Colorado and they get South Africans to cut wheat same in Kansas. The fruit orchards in Co. and Wa. are full of migrant workers. As far as Im concerned they should cut out the handouts to anyone that comes into welfare or unemployment offices unless they are willing to do any job. Its real easy to find a common enemy and blame all are troubles on them. Hitler did that in WW 2 the Jews were the cause of all of Germanys problems, according to Hitler.

And just look at what our "dems" are trying to do to the jews now -- notice any similarities -- I didn't think so.

Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: danvee] #7986406
11/04/23 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by danvee
I guess the Democrats' are smart enough to rig an election in 50 states, get an impeachment, grand jury indictments and 40 felonies on trump and the Republican party cant get a court to look into Biden?? Pretty sad state of party to say the least. But back to the illegals, how is it the survive without jobs?? I hear all the talk about free hand outs, every thing from free housing and medical to cell phones but I guess I dont see it in my travels. I will agree some have caused problems that make the news but per capita Im guessing it is more home grown Americans that end up in the justice system. America has a shortage of low paid back breaking work that very few Americans will be willing to fill the job. I see it in every town I travel to and I travel alot. I have stayed in several Trump hotels and most workers doing grounds work, kitchen work and hotel room maid service I am betting are illegal or maybe made legal and cant get any other work. A majority of the ranches and farms I visit can not hire enough or pay enough to get any other labor. I just visited several wheat farms in Colorado and they get South Africans to cut wheat same in Kansas. The fruit orchards in Co. and Wa. are full of migrant workers. As far as Im concerned they should cut out the handouts to anyone that comes into welfare or unemployment offices unless they are willing to do any job. Its real easy to find a common enemy and blame all are troubles on them. Hitler did that in WW 2 the Jews were the cause of all of Germanys problems, according to Hitler.


Yep, its a pitiful state of the R party to say the least, they might as well be democrat liberals. But I will address your points because you are very very wrong.

Illegals survive without jobs because they live in mass with one another. It is nothing for one or two members that work to rent a house and have 10-20 or more family members living with them. They live here the same way they live in their craphole countries. All this mass living to save money encourages parasites and that is why lice, etc. is rampant in public schools here.

If you don't see the free handouts where your travel, then I recommend you come to deep south Texas or Douglas Arizona, or Nogales Arizona. They have $1K dollar phones, free schooling, breakfast, lunch, and even supper. Heck, around our border towns, we send US school buses across to pick them up, the parents have learned to rig the game on the border to their favor. We pay for everything, the school gets the Federal tax dollars for the kids, and the parents make big bank smuggling people across.

If they would throw every illegal person in prison that have crossed over, then illegal aliens would be in all our prison.

America does not have a shortage of of low paid workers that will do back breaking work. They have a shortage of Americans that culturally don't live like fleas with hundreds of their relatives from Great grandma to all their nephews and nieces. There are plenty of day laborers out there that are citizens that are willing to work. The problem is that they believe in the lie of the American dream. They will work hard, but they can't compete with the competition from the illegal migrants that will work for pennies on the dollar.

I have not stayed in any Trump hotels, I have no idea who they hire, but here, they hire illegal immigrants. I call 100% BS on your claim that ranchers have no choice but to hire them. That is not the case in Texas. Although it may be the case in Colorado where Liberals rain supreme and have destroyed the state.

Our troubles have nothing to do with all the people we have brought into this country from craphole countries, but rather the people that encouraged it. And now we bring up Hitler, that is rich. I could make the argument that the western monetary world waged war on Hitler because he tried to nationalize the monetary system of Germany. Something that was unacceptable for global bankers.


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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: James] #7986407
11/04/23 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by James
I'm in a battle of wits with the unarmed! lol

Jim

We all recognize your brilliance. That's partly why I'm surprised you can't properly post a link.

Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: James] #7986409
11/04/23 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by James
I see a lot of criticism directed at the Biden administration--most of it justified, I agree.

But the Trump administration was worse as far as twiddling thumbs over the illegal immigrant problem. His first two years, Trump had GOP majorities in both houses of Congress. They could have passed a bill while the Dems were helpless to stop them. The Democrats didn't have to stand aside because the Republicans didn't offer a bill for needed changes in the law. Where were the critics of immigration policy then?

Jim




Trump did not fiddle his thumbs. He was ramrodded by POS RHINO politicians like Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell. People that have been bought and paid for by the uniparty and the people that actually run this country. Ya'll know full and well Trump went to doing the work and he was canned by his own party.

That same party is the same POS Republicans that hate Matt Gaetz and his effort to make single spending bills, which any one with any sense at all would think is a good idea.....,but not our current Republican leadership in the Senate.

You know full and well that Trump did not fix the border situation in his term because he was backsabbed by his own party.

This is why people like me have had enough. There is no R or D, there is only the government uniparty, and us peasants.


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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: James] #7986410
11/04/23 12:50 AM
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[quote=James]I'm in a battle of wits with the unarmed! lol

Jim[/quote

That's the typical response from folks that think they are not only better, but smarter than other people. That is rich!

Especially since the last few posts you just made on here had only half truths. Not telling the whole truth is the same as lying. Battle away!


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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: DaveP] #7986411
11/04/23 12:52 AM
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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: DaveP] #7986415
11/04/23 01:10 AM
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If Trump let himself be "ramrodded" by his own party to the point he was ineffectual, why do you think it would be any different next time?

Why are you voting for him?

Jim


Forum Infidel since 2001

"And that troll bs is something triggered snowflakes say when they dont like what someone posts." - Boco
Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: James] #7986420
11/04/23 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by James
If Trump let himself be "ramrodded" by his own party to the point he was ineffectual, why do you think it would be any different next time?

Why are you voting for him?

Jim


First Question: I think it will be different this time because people are starting to wake up to see just how corrupt our government is. Elon Musk has helped a lot with this as far as zero censorship on his platform X. Trump, with all his faults, brought that situation to bare. People can plainly see the double standards that the Uniparty and MSM use against Trump verses Biden. Biden has been in government for over 50 years, and yet he is as clean as the wind driven snow. I think movements like Matt Gaetz making politicians accountable for their votes is a good thing. The so called conservatives that hate him are probably paid for and now they will have to be held accountable for their votes; which is good for our Republic. RINO politicians are currently dropping out like the rats they are, or they or doubling down like John Cornyn and Lyndsey Graham. This was because of Trump.

But we have a ways to go. Too many politicians, many in my home state, have been bought and paid for by influencers to not support Trump. I think mainstream America whole heartedly supports Trump and now with social media not being rigged like it was the Truth will come out.

Second Question: I did not support Trump at all when he ran in the primaries. I was a Ted Cruz or Ben Carson guy all the way. I couldn't stand Trump, but when he won the nomination, I voted for him. Now I support him 100% I am MAGA all the way, and this is why....

1. He was the first president in my lifetime that actually tried to do what he campaigned on (border fence) although he was backstabbed by Paul Ryan and other RINOs.
2. He is 100% transparent and says exactly what he thinks. He takes questions again, and again, from the press conferences and is not afraid to say what he thinks.
3. He 100% tried to secure our border. He begged for a measly 5billion dollars to secure it and the uniparty said NO.
4. Under his leadership, he put more pedophiles and sex traffickers in jail and busted more sex trafficking rings than any other president.
5. He made as bout as close of a peace deal as possible in the Middle East with the Abraham Accords.
6. He had a working relationship, although coarse, with both Putin and North Korea
7. He was 100% against transgender ideology, child mutilation, and dragqueens in public schools.
8. He moved the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, the true capital of Israel.
9. I never paid $4-5/gallon for diesel under Trump.
10. He believed in Nationalism and taking care of America and its citizens first.
11. He was 100% against taking in immigrants from craphole countries that will never ever assimilate.
12. He is not owned by any outside group, and can't be bought.
13. He did not take a salary while in office.
14. Over all, things were much better for me and my family financially under Trump than they are now.
15. Trump started ZERO wars!

I could go on, but that's enough reason alone for me to vote for him.


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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: DaveP] #7986468
11/04/23 06:58 AM
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The irony of this thread is that those posting who support/excuse illegal immigration are of the politically left persuasion. Just like their politically left forefathers who supported another cheap workforce, that being slavery. What's even better is that they are all yankees.lol

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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: ] #7986489
11/04/23 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by J Staton
The irony of this thread is that those posting who support/excuse illegal immigration are of the politically left persuasion. Just like their politically left forefathers who supported another cheap workforce, that being slavery. What's even better is that they are all yankees.lol


lol


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Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: James] #7986495
11/04/23 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by James
If Trump let himself be "ramrodded" by his own party to the point he was ineffectual, why do you think it would be any different next time?

Why are you voting for him?

Jim

Because he doesn't wear diapers

Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: DaveP] #7986515
11/04/23 08:47 AM
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Again show me any politician that will put a bill out to lock up and fine anyone hiring an illegal. We are hooked on cheap labor it runs the country especially border states. Why not even state laws to stop it?? cheap labor.

Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: danvee] #7986699
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Originally Posted by danvee
Again show me any politician that will put a bill out to lock up and fine anyone hiring an illegal. We are hooked on cheap labor it runs the country especially border states. Why not even state laws to stop it?? cheap labor.



Just can't face the facts head on that Trump had the lowest border crossings in 50 years, and it took the lefties two years to be setting new records in those crossing illegally can you?


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: DaveP] #7986709
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Now Bidens managing by E.O. He isn't breaking laws. The laws don't change.


Who is John Galt?
Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: danvee] #7986719
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Originally Posted by danvee
I guess the Democrats' are smart enough to rig an election in 50 states, get an impeachment, grand jury indictments and 40 felonies on trump and the Republican party cant get a court to look into Biden?? Pretty sad state of party to say the least. But back to the illegals, how is it the survive without jobs?? I hear all the talk about free hand outs, every thing from free housing and medical to cell phones but I guess I dont see it in my travels. I will agree some have caused problems that make the news but per capita Im guessing it is more home grown Americans that end up in the justice system. America has a shortage of low paid back breaking work that very few Americans will be willing to fill the job. I see it in every town I travel to and I travel alot. I have stayed in several Trump hotels and most workers doing grounds work, kitchen work and hotel room maid service I am betting are illegal or maybe made legal and cant get any other work. A majority of the ranches and farms I visit can not hire enough or pay enough to get any other labor. I just visited several wheat farms in Colorado and they get South Africans to cut wheat same in Kansas. The fruit orchards in Co. and Wa. are full of migrant workers. As far as Im concerned they should cut out the handouts to anyone that comes into welfare or unemployment offices unless they are willing to do any job. Its real easy to find a common enemy and blame all are troubles on them. Hitler did that in WW 2 the Jews were the cause of all of Germanys problems, according to Hitler.

No they rigged elections in 5 states.you can't even get the facts straight. We did figure out how long it takes to fill out 8 thousand ballots though. Read yesterday the democrats have already started filling out ballots for the 2024 election. Since they don't figure dementia Joey is gonna get very many votes it's gonna be a close one.

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In the coming years we will be looking at terrorism like we have never see thanks to Biden and his open borders.


Immigrants who bypassed legal process in migrating to the US demand legal process before being kicked out.
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
In the coming years we will be looking at terrorism like we have never see thanks to Biden and his open borders.


In the coming years everything will be labeled terrorism, even protection of the Constitution.


-Goofy
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
In the coming years we will be looking at terrorism like we have never see thanks to Biden and his open borders.


In the coming years everything will be labeled terrorism, even protection of the Constitution.

In the coming years everything will be labeled terrorism, except actual terrorism.

Re: Border Patrol Opens Door Yet Again... [Re: DaveP] #7986954
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James and Danvee,

Can you please give me 15 reasons to vote for Biden?


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