You might want to lower your standards a little and maybe get blaine involved as I have tried and can't even find one reason (good or otherwise) to vote that way.

Thanks for asking nicely, Chancey.

When did I ever say you should vote for Biden? If you insist on a binary choice, then sure, better Biden than the grifter. I won't refute your reasons for voting for Trump here and now because my opinions are well known and because that's not what the thread is about.

Fortunately, there are third-party choices that a person of good conscience, ethics, and patriotism can vote for. You only have to go with the binary choice if it's important for your self-esteem to vote for a winning ticket. By turning up your nose at the two main parties, you show proper contempt for their nominees. Biden and Trump both deserve it.

To tie your issue into the thread topic, I didn't agree with Trump's means and methods in immigration: his boondoggle wall, separating families, failing to seek increased funding for border security and administrative processing of refugee claims, and failing to propose changes in the law to Congress. But at least his unwelcoming attitude and detention of some of them kept others from swarming the border.

Whereas, Biden's welcoming attitude has opened the floodgates. Biden has ordered his employees, border agents and others, to help these economic migrants across the river and up the bank, bus them to cities of their choice, and support them while they look for illegal employment. It's a disgrace.

Jim

there exists credible evidence (bank records) that Joe accepted money from a Chinese business interest, AND that Joe used taxpayer money to influence an investigation that involved his son (Joe Biden himself).

Grifter? you BET!

[this WILL come out when it becomes obvious that Biden can't win a second term. Dems will throw him under the bus in time to substitute Newsome (or some other scum sucker) on the ticket. MARK MY WORDS]

I voted for Biden because of the grifter wanting a wall instead of a law locking up and fining the folks that are hiring the illegals. A wall is a waste of money when there have been tunnels for years before the thought of a wall. Also the wall in Berlin didnt work or the great China wall. The Wall was a vanity project that would cost to much money, condemnation of private land, ecological chaos and poor relations. The problem is the people hiring them. Mexico is not the reason for our drug problems its the people here in America taking the drugs. The other reason is Trump has told and continues to tell more lies than all the politicians in America put together. Biden is not the best president by far, and Im hoping the GOP or even the Dems come up with some better choices in 24. Time to work cattle, its just my opinion vote your choice your free to do so my friends.

PFFFT ! Bugs said it best. “What a Maroon”.

Well now, that's a new excuse I haven't seen you post before. Usually your excuse is oil.

Don't hate me for not be!having a word you say. (at least James says he'd vote for any democrat with a heartbeat over Trump)

"Fortunately, there are third-party choices that a person of good conscience, ethics, and patriotism can vote for. You only have to go with the binary choice if it's important for your self-esteem to vote for a winning ticket. By turning up your nose at the two main parties, you show proper contempt for their nominees. Biden and Trump both deserve it."

"For all the talk about why Donald Trump was elected president while losing the popular vote and how he could win again, one of the least discussed results of the 2016 election offers valuable lessons for Democrats.

An astounding 7.8 million voters cast their presidential ballots for someone other than Trump or Hillary Clinton. The two biggest third-party vote-getters were Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson (almost 4.5 million votes) and the Green Party’s Jill Stein (1.5 million voters). But others received almost another 1.9 million votes as well.

Libertarians and Greens may try to convince you that this reflects growing support for their parties. It doesn’t.

Their strong showing was due to the unpopularity of the two major-party nominees."

Source: Roll Call

re: addressing the illegal immigration problem...how well is Joe's [YOUR] approach doing?????

You voted for biden, and admit it?
Good Lord, man. Good Lord.

Yes everyone is free to vote their choice, but using the cost of a border wall to justify your vote for Biden is pretty weak. The wall was only one part of a border policy that anyone looking objectively at the illegal immigration issue could see was working far more effectively than Bidens open border, welcome to the US policy. But, if you really want to compare costs, try to get an estimate on what flood of illegals under Biden has already cost us and will cost us in the future. By comparison the wall would look pretty cheap.

still waiting for danvee's answer...

As a person, I don't care for Trump. But, he is still a better choice for restoring America than Biden who is destroying it.

Let them all in, maybe they will make liberal lives miserable. Perhaps put a few out of business because they can’t compete. What a Christmas present that would be.

You voted for Biden because you wanted open Borders and welcome ANY CRIMINAL that comes slithering in!!!! There I fixed it for you!!!!

For Chauncy:

Trump effect on immigration

So, how did he do on illegal immigration?

Lowest since the 1970's?

Remain in Mexico count as apprehensions?

Not all of them. Some of them will have been apprehended. IMO it was good idea.

still waiting for danvee's answer... White Marlin

I didn't say I was in favor with Biden's approach, I thought the right approach was to Jail and fine the individuals that hire the illegals. Write to you senators and ask that the floor a bill to do that, see what kind of response you get. My opinion my approach that's all you don't have to like it.