Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: trap master]
#7994672
11/14/23 09:13 PM
11/14/23 09:13 PM
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Joined: Jan 2009
Nebraska
Trapset
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Nebraska
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I've got a question maybe someone can answer. I recently had a spirited debate with 2 game wardens. I had been bird hunting ( small game license required) and the female warden was the ramrod of the operation and obviously as green as her britches with a man standing silently observing and backup. So I walk up to my truck and drop the tailgate lay down unloaded over under shotgun as the mosey over. So ms. Green jeans starts with the usually small talk then asks to see my license, required by law to show upon request, no problem. Then she says do you have your ID. I respond by saying an ID is not required to hunt small game. She repeats the question, I I repeat my answer. Then Mr greenjeans bulls up and says I'm gonna ask you one more time, I looked at him and said you never asked me anything to begin with so don't threaten me, you gonna arrest me? I said to him can you tell me exactly what's required to hunt small game in missouri and he wouldn't respond, just stared at me I asked again and he wouldn't respond. I've looked online and in the print copy of the wildlife code of missouri and can find nothing anywhere that says you have to have or present ID. It Cleary states must present hunting license upon request. So who was right do you think? Did you ever show your ID, how did it end?
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: Trapset]
#7994679
11/14/23 09:32 PM
11/14/23 09:32 PM
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Joined: May 2018
SW Georgia
Wanna Be
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SW Georgia
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Start videoing. Never had an issue but with one GW down here. He checked us 4 days in a row duck hunting. Day 2 I started recording when he brought 2 other wardens with him to check the pond and decoys. The 2 wardens realized real quick he was trying to find anything he could to make a case. They had done called it quits on raking the pond and checking which decoys they could reach and he was determined to check them all. And he was about 3-4 steps from the channel my son asked if I was going to mention the drop off, I just smiled and said he wouldn’t listen anyways. He ended up floating his hat and we all busted out laughing. I had it on video and told him we didn’t need checked anymore. He came the next two mornings and went through the exact process, minus floating his hat. He found a duck that wouldn’t fly but would swim on day 4, hours after we left, and came to the house and told me since we’d killed our limits that bird would put us over the limit. We went back to the pond and I had my dog catch the duck and gave it to him alive. He said I had to kill it and I told him I couldn’t it would put me over the limit. So I told my son that didn’t hunt that morning to wring it’s neck. I then told him he needed to leave because my son was about to hunt and see if he could finish his limit since he already had one. Well, that ticked him off and he wrote ME a ticket for over the limit. Remember, all this was recorded. On court date he was there, I was there, and my phone recordings for my defense was there. The judge dismissed the ticket and I never saw that warden again. We were on a quota dove hunt a couple of years ago and a Warden was walking the field checking license and he walked up and called me by name. I said yes sir, but didn’t know him. He laughed and said I don’t need to see your license, I know you’re good. He asked, you hear with your boys, again I said yes sir and pointed where they were sitting. He looked at me and could tell I didn’t recognize him. He then said, I was one of the wardens the day so and so floated his hat! He said that and we laughed all over again. He then said have good hunt and continued on his way bypassing the boys.
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: trap master]
#7994717
11/14/23 10:07 PM
11/14/23 10:07 PM
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Joined: Sep 2020
Missouri
Osagan
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Missouri
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I've got a question maybe someone can answer. I recently had a spirited debate with 2 game wardens. I had been bird hunting ( small game license required) and the female warden was the ramrod of the operation and obviously as green as her britches with a man standing silently observing and backup. So I walk up to my truck and drop the tailgate lay down unloaded over under shotgun as the mosey over. So ms. Green jeans starts with the usually small talk then asks to see my license, required by law to show upon request, no problem. Then she says do you have your ID. I respond by saying an ID is not required to hunt small game. She repeats the question, I I repeat my answer. Then Mr greenjeans bulls up and says I'm gonna ask you one more time, I looked at him and said you never asked me anything to begin with so don't threaten me, you gonna arrest me? I said to him can you tell me exactly what's required to hunt small game in missouri and he wouldn't respond, just stared at me I asked again and he wouldn't respond. I've looked online and in the print copy of the wildlife code of missouri and can find nothing anywhere that says you have to have or present ID. It Cleary states must present hunting license upon request. So who was right do you think? I'm going to say you're right. I'm over 65 (over 65 don't have to buy MO. H&F permits) so I HAVE to carry ID in lieu of a fishing/hunting permit. I can't see where it says a license holder has to carry a drivers license in addition to the permit. You should have ask, "Is that a command or a request?" and see what they say. Any resident of Missouri sixty-five (65) years of age or older may take fish, live bait, clams, mussels, turtles, and frogs as provided in Chapter 6 without permit (except trout permit or daily tag in areas where pre- scribed); provided, while fishing, s/he carries a valid Missouri driver license, notarized affidavit, or similar official document prov- ing his/her eligibility based on residency and age, and shall submit documentation for inspection by any agent of the department on request; At 16 you have to start buying hunting and fishing permits, and there are LOTS of kids out there with fishing licenses that don't have drivers licenses. so.............. Here's the Missouri Wild Life Code, tha's Missouri Conservation's Holy Grail. If the requirement exists it'll be in there: https://www.sos.mo.gov/adrules/csr/current/3csr/3csr.aspBy the way, it's NOT Missouri law that you must show law enforcement ID, unless you're driving of course, or want to. You must give your full name and address. That's it.
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: MnJag]
#7994742
11/14/23 10:31 PM
11/14/23 10:31 PM
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Joined: Oct 2011
Western Shore Delaware
SJA
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Western Shore Delaware
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. . . and then there's the USFW Fed GW . . . whole different breed. Don't want to mess with them too much  This is how it is around here. The state guy is great but I cringe when I see the feds pulling up. It is guilty until proven innocent with most of them. I'm always legal but they still make you nervous. The last fed that checked me duck hunting was the best one I ever met so hopefully he sticks around here. Waterfowl hunting is one of their specialties. . . . so, you better be right. You won't get a "ticket". They take your info and send a "pink slip" to the area Federal Court. The Fed Magistrate / Judge will send you a payable fine and / or a MUST APPEAR court date :-)
"Humans are the hardest people to get along with." Dr. Phillip Snow
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: Trapset]
#7994743
11/14/23 10:32 PM
11/14/23 10:32 PM
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Joined: Dec 2012
Northern WI
Line Jumper
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Northern WI
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Definition of a sportsman is a violator that hasn’t been caught yet.
Last edited by Line Jumper; 11/15/23 07:29 AM. Reason: Spelling
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: Trapset]
#7994757
11/14/23 10:46 PM
11/14/23 10:46 PM
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Joined: Oct 2011
Western Shore Delaware
SJA
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Western Shore Delaware
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Each State has their own Laws, Regs, and Policies. The only important things for individuals AND GWS' to KNOW are those parameters which apply.
"Humans are the hardest people to get along with." Dr. Phillip Snow
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: ~ADC~]
#7994794
11/14/23 11:18 PM
11/14/23 11:18 PM
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Joined: Jan 2009
Nebraska
Trapset
OP
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OP
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Nebraska
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Shawn, try taking off your socks and hand them to them. Keep smiling. It'll work. HA! Thanks Jayme, I’ll give that a go!! I’ve actually not had much trouble with our local guys. What my buddy’s in a Canadian have been going through the last couple years is ridiculous. I’ll give them the sock tip! 
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: Trapset]
#7994926
11/15/23 07:52 AM
11/15/23 07:52 AM
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Joined: Jun 2016
Michigan
Trapper Dahlgren
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Michigan
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back a few years we had a group of young guns dnr come into our area of the u p , if they wanted a place to hunt and you were there first, they would harass your group until you left, well I had a lease on 14 acre of the best duck hunting in the area, they drove all of my friends away, well I finally had enough and press charges against them for hunter harassment , well I try the local dnr wouldn't do it so I saw the local judge never had a problem again, three of them got moved to different parts of the state , they probably did more the hurt hunting than all the anti!!!!, the one gps, 70 bow deer stands , see we couldn't bait deer until the opening day of bow season, and every one would put out bait before season , so he wrote 70 ticket opening day , now they change the rule, so you can bait 30 days before opening,
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: Trapset]
#7994959
11/15/23 08:30 AM
11/15/23 08:30 AM
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Posco
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Posco
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I had a warden give me the option of which violation I wanted him to charge me with. Twilight hunting or a nonresident hunting on residents only day. The twilight hunting was a bogus charge, the residents day only wasn't. I can't remember which one I picked. He was pleasant enough.
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: trap master]
#7995069
11/15/23 11:13 AM
11/15/23 11:13 AM
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Joined: Dec 2010
Armpit, ak
Dirt
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Armpit, ak
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Ya, I showed it to them, I don't have anything to hide. I just believe it's an over reach of their authority. A game warden in missouri is commissioned by the state same as highway patrol or municipal cop. Who I don't believe can just demand ID without suspecting you of committing a crime or about to commit a crime. Well they can ask, but I don't believe your required to show. I don't know what the requirements are, however a name is on your hunting license, a picture of you is on a drivers license. How do they know that you are the name on the hunting license with out a picture I.D.?
Who is John Galt?
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