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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US [Re: trap master] #7994672
11/14/23 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by trap master
I've got a question maybe someone can answer. I recently had a spirited debate with 2 game wardens. I had been bird hunting ( small game license required) and the female warden was the ramrod of the operation and obviously as green as her britches with a man standing silently observing and backup. So I walk up to my truck and drop the tailgate lay down unloaded over under shotgun as the mosey over. So ms. Green jeans starts with the usually small talk then asks to see my license, required by law to show upon request, no problem. Then she says do you have your ID. I respond by saying an ID is not required to hunt small game. She repeats the question, I I repeat my answer. Then Mr greenjeans bulls up and says I'm gonna ask you one more time, I looked at him and said you never asked me anything to begin with so don't threaten me, you gonna arrest me? I said to him can you tell me exactly what's required to hunt small game in missouri and he wouldn't respond, just stared at me I asked again and he wouldn't respond. I've looked online and in the print copy of the wildlife code of missouri and can find nothing anywhere that says you have to have or present ID. It Cleary states must present hunting license upon request. So who was right do you think?



Did you ever show your ID, how did it end?

Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US [Re: Trapset] #7994679
11/14/23 09:32 PM
11/14/23 09:32 PM
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Start videoing. Never had an issue but with one GW down here. He checked us 4 days in a row duck hunting. Day 2 I started recording when he brought 2 other wardens with him to check the pond and decoys. The 2 wardens realized real quick he was trying to find anything he could to make a case. They had done called it quits on raking the pond and checking which decoys they could reach and he was determined to check them all. And he was about 3-4 steps from the channel my son asked if I was going to mention the drop off, I just smiled and said he wouldn’t listen anyways. He ended up floating his hat and we all busted out laughing. I had it on video and told him we didn’t need checked anymore.
He came the next two mornings and went through the exact process, minus floating his hat. He found a duck that wouldn’t fly but would swim on day 4, hours after we left, and came to the house and told me since we’d killed our limits that bird would put us over the limit. We went back to the pond and I had my dog catch the duck and gave it to him alive. He said I had to kill it and I told him I couldn’t it would put me over the limit. So I told my son that didn’t hunt that morning to wring it’s neck. I then told him he needed to leave because my son was about to hunt and see if he could finish his limit since he already had one. Well, that ticked him off and he wrote ME a ticket for over the limit. Remember, all this was recorded.
On court date he was there, I was there, and my phone recordings for my defense was there. The judge dismissed the ticket and I never saw that warden again.
We were on a quota dove hunt a couple of years ago and a Warden was walking the field checking license and he walked up and called me by name. I said yes sir, but didn’t know him. He laughed and said I don’t need to see your license, I know you’re good. He asked, you hear with your boys, again I said yes sir and pointed where they were sitting. He looked at me and could tell I didn’t recognize him. He then said, I was one of the wardens the day so and so floated his hat! He said that and we laughed all over again. He then said have good hunt and continued on his way bypassing the boys.

Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US [Re: Trapset] #7994698
11/14/23 09:46 PM
11/14/23 09:46 PM
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Iowa
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Shawn, try taking off your socks and hand them to them. Keep smiling. It'll work.

Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US [Re: Trapset] #7994710
11/14/23 10:04 PM
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My experience is once you say enough is enough and tell them it’s either time to stop or write a ticket, it’s over. Either they do or they don’t.

Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US [Re: trap master] #7994717
11/14/23 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by trap master
I've got a question maybe someone can answer. I recently had a spirited debate with 2 game wardens. I had been bird hunting ( small game license required) and the female warden was the ramrod of the operation and obviously as green as her britches with a man standing silently observing and backup. So I walk up to my truck and drop the tailgate lay down unloaded over under shotgun as the mosey over. So ms. Green jeans starts with the usually small talk then asks to see my license, required by law to show upon request, no problem. Then she says do you have your ID. I respond by saying an ID is not required to hunt small game. She repeats the question, I I repeat my answer. Then Mr greenjeans bulls up and says I'm gonna ask you one more time, I looked at him and said you never asked me anything to begin with so don't threaten me, you gonna arrest me? I said to him can you tell me exactly what's required to hunt small game in missouri and he wouldn't respond, just stared at me I asked again and he wouldn't respond. I've looked online and in the print copy of the wildlife code of missouri and can find nothing anywhere that says you have to have or present ID. It Cleary states must present hunting license upon request. So who was right do you think?



I'm going to say you're right. I'm over 65 (over 65 don't have to buy MO. H&F permits) so I HAVE to carry ID in lieu of a fishing/hunting permit. I can't see where it says a license holder has to carry a drivers license in addition to the permit. You should have ask, "Is that a command or a request?" and see what they say.

Any resident of Missouri sixty-five
(65) years of age or older may take fish, live
bait, clams, mussels, turtles, and frogs as
provided in Chapter 6 without permit (except
trout permit or daily tag in areas where pre-
scribed); provided, while fishing, s/he carries
a valid Missouri driver license, notarized
affidavit, or similar official document prov-
ing his/her eligibility based on residency and
age, and shall submit documentation for
inspection by any agent of the department on
request;

At 16 you have to start buying hunting and fishing permits, and there are LOTS of kids out there with fishing licenses that don't have drivers licenses. so..............

Here's the Missouri Wild Life Code, tha's Missouri Conservation's Holy Grail.
If the requirement exists it'll be in there: https://www.sos.mo.gov/adrules/csr/current/3csr/3csr.asp

By the way, it's NOT Missouri law that you must show law enforcement ID, unless you're driving of course, or want to. You must give your full name and address. That's it.

Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US [Re: Trapset] #7994725
11/14/23 10:12 PM
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US [Re: Trapset] #7994732
11/14/23 10:19 PM
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Ya, I showed it to them, I don't have anything to hide. I just believe it's an over reach of their authority. A game warden in missouri is commissioned by the state same as highway patrol or municipal cop. Who I don't believe can just demand ID without suspecting you of committing a crime or about to commit a crime. Well they can ask, but I don't believe your required to show.

Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US [Re: SJA] #7994734
11/14/23 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SJA
. . . and then there's the USFW Fed GW . . . whole different breed. Don't want to mess with them too much grin

This is how it is around here. The state guy is great but I cringe when I see the feds pulling up. It is guilty until proven innocent with most of them. I'm always legal but they still make you nervous. The last fed that checked me duck hunting was the best one I ever met so hopefully he sticks around here.

Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US [Re: MnJag] #7994742
11/14/23 10:31 PM
11/14/23 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MnJag
Originally Posted by SJA
. . . and then there's the USFW Fed GW . . . whole different breed. Don't want to mess with them too much grin

This is how it is around here. The state guy is great but I cringe when I see the feds pulling up. It is guilty until proven innocent with most of them. I'm always legal but they still make you nervous. The last fed that checked me duck hunting was the best one I ever met so hopefully he sticks around here.


Waterfowl hunting is one of their specialties. . . . so, you better be right. You won't get a "ticket". They take your info and send a "pink slip" to the area Federal Court. The Fed Magistrate / Judge will send you a payable fine and / or a MUST APPEAR court date :-)


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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US [Re: Trapset] #7994743
11/14/23 10:32 PM
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Definition of a sportsman is a violator that hasn’t been caught yet.

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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US [Re: Trapset] #7994747
11/14/23 10:34 PM
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The onus is always on the hunter to show compliance...if you are up front and transparent it should be quick. If you have pulled a fast one in the past or hunt with someone who has they may inspect a little bit longer that it just how it works. The guys who are often checked never tell their full stories regardless how well you think you know them.

Having said this, anyone can make a mistake and it does happen.

They often know who's who in their local patrol Area and you think they don`t, better think again.

Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US [Re: Trapset] #7994748
11/14/23 10:38 PM
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The issue that is being raised more and more nationally, and one that is causing more and more wildlife agencies to change their policies, is when a warden enters private property to do routine compliance checks. The contention being if the warden has no reason to believe that a violation has/is being committed, the entry onto private property would be improper. Obviously on public land or a routine compliance check as hunters are exiting private property would not be an issue in this situation.
We were always taught that an exception to the search warrant rule called the “open field exception” allowed for this practice. That has been challenged and hasn’t held water where tested in the courts.

Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US [Re: Trapset] #7994750
11/14/23 10:39 PM
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US [Re: Trapset] #7994757
11/14/23 10:46 PM
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Each State has their own Laws, Regs, and Policies. The only important things for individuals AND GWS' to KNOW are those parameters which apply.


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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US [Re: Trapset] #7994780
11/14/23 11:04 PM
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I email the local dnr around me to find beavers and I tell you most don't know what's out in that area thete telling me . The b eaters have been trsped out for so many years!!.

Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US [Re: ~ADC~] #7994794
11/14/23 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Shawn, try taking off your socks and hand them to them. Keep smiling. It'll work.


HA! Thanks Jayme, I’ll give that a go!!

I’ve actually not had much trouble with our local guys. What my buddy’s in a Canadian have been going through the last couple years is ridiculous. I’ll give them the sock tip! eek

Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US [Re: Trapset] #7994926
11/15/23 07:52 AM
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back a few years we had a group of young guns dnr come into our area of the u p , if they wanted a place to hunt and you were there first, they would harass your group until you left, well I had a lease on 14 acre of the best duck hunting in the area, they drove all of my friends away, well I finally had enough and press charges against them for hunter harassment , well I try the local dnr wouldn't do it so I saw the local judge never had a problem again, three of them got moved to different parts of the state , they probably did more the hurt hunting than all the anti!!!!, the one gps, 70 bow deer stands , see we couldn't bait deer until the opening day of bow season, and every one would put out bait before season , so he wrote 70 ticket opening day , now they change the rule, so you can bait 30 days before opening,

Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US [Re: Trapset] #7994940
11/15/23 08:11 AM
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I’ve had good and bad experiences over the years, we had a Warden in SE Wisconsin that was often out of line, he stopped (2) of my sons friends that were squirrel hunting after school, he asked what are the legal shooting hours today?, the kids said they didn’t know because they only planned to hunt for an hour- we’ll before close. He then berated them on how he should right a citation and continued to abuse his power. I followed up with a phone call to provide my feedback, he could’ve used it as a learning experience and seeing two young men enjoying the outdoors in a world where that’s not always the norm should’ve been refreshing.

Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US [Re: Trapset] #7994959
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I had a warden give me the option of which violation I wanted him to charge me with. Twilight hunting or a nonresident hunting on residents only day. The twilight hunting was a bogus charge, the residents day only wasn't. I can't remember which one I picked. He was pleasant enough.

Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US [Re: trap master] #7995069
11/15/23 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by trap master
Ya, I showed it to them, I don't have anything to hide. I just believe it's an over reach of their authority. A game warden in missouri is commissioned by the state same as highway patrol or municipal cop. Who I don't believe can just demand ID without suspecting you of committing a crime or about to commit a crime. Well they can ask, but I don't believe your required to show.


I don't know what the requirements are, however a name is on your hunting license, a picture of you is on a drivers license. How do they know that you are the name on the hunting license with out a picture I.D.?


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