Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: Trapset]
#7995070
11/15/23 11:16 AM
11/15/23 11:16 AM
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kansas
larrywaugh
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trapper
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kansas
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I think you are required to provide identification if asked. They look you up to see if you have warrants.
Won't take no prisoners,won't spare no lives.
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: Dirt]
#7995071
11/15/23 11:22 AM
11/15/23 11:22 AM
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Joined: Oct 2011
Western Shore Delaware
SJA
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Western Shore Delaware
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Ya, I showed it to them, I don't have anything to hide. I just believe it's an over reach of their authority. A game warden in missouri is commissioned by the state same as highway patrol or municipal cop. Who I don't believe can just demand ID without suspecting you of committing a crime or about to commit a crime. Well they can ask, but I don't believe your required to show. I don't know what the requirements are, however a name is on your hunting license, a picture of you is on a drivers license. How do they know that you are the name on the hunting license with out a picture I.D.? This ^^^^ . . . In MD it is required also.
"Humans are the hardest people to get along with." Dr. Phillip Snow
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: Dirt]
#7995129
11/15/23 01:41 PM
11/15/23 01:41 PM
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Joined: Jan 2009
Nebraska
Trapset
OP
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OP
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Nebraska
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Ya, I showed it to them, I don't have anything to hide. I just believe it's an over reach of their authority. A game warden in missouri is commissioned by the state same as highway patrol or municipal cop. Who I don't believe can just demand ID without suspecting you of committing a crime or about to commit a crime. Well they can ask, but I don't believe your required to show. I don't know what the requirements are, however a name is on your hunting license, a picture of you is on a drivers license. How do they know that you are the name on the hunting license with out a picture I.D.? To me, its not really about how they know its you or not. Its more about what you are required by law to show them. Its not your job to make their job easier. I know its not a big deal just to show your ID but if its not required, its not required. Kind of a "use your rights or slowly loose your rights" type of deal. Makes a big difference to me how I'm asked as well.
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: lumberjack391]
#7995223
11/15/23 04:26 PM
11/15/23 04:26 PM
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Joined: Oct 2013
LA
dixieland
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LA
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One time I got stopped while I was checking down at a creek. Got my license out while I was headed towards them at my truck. New, navy seal looking guy, chcekd my license and everythings OK. hIs ride-along, who was quite up in age was going through my traps (I assume checking for tags) was starting to wear thin on me while the other guy and I was talking. I yelled out "can I help you with something".and he finally stopped fingering my traps. My question is so what if a tag was missing, they are in the back of my truck- not set. The main guy said sternly "we are leasig this ground starting next year and you will be required to wear blaze orange". because I was in camo. Thanks for the warning boss I just wrote thosee 3 stops off. I hate wearing orange when Im trapping especially when Im fairly close to the road. Wait a minute, you got to wear orange, just to trap? Oh, never mind, I see you’re up there in the country where a guy can’t even hunt on Sunday. WAAAAY too much control.
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: trap master]
#7995231
11/15/23 04:33 PM
11/15/23 04:33 PM
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Joined: Sep 2020
Missouri
Osagan
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Missouri
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I've looked online and in the print copy of the wildlife code of missouri and can find nothing anywhere that says you have to have or present ID. It Cleary states must present hunting license upon request. So who was right do you think? Here you go Trap Master. NO, you don't have to carry I D if you have in your possession an 'actual' permit. Only if it is a temporary permit are you required to carry photo I D. If they were going to write you a ticket they would have to site a statute in the Mo. Wildlife Code and it's not there. Their exact wording, underlined: 3 CSR 10-7.405 General Provisions PURPOSE: This rule requires any person engaged in hunting or pursuing wildlife to possess the prescribed permit. (1) Any person while hunting or while using dogs or birds of prey in pursuit of wildlife in any manner, including training, shall have on his/her person the prescribed permit, temporary permit authorization number(s) or evidence of exemption. The temporary permit authorization number(s) and picture identification must be carried at all times while hunting untilthe actual permit(s) is received. Wildlife may not be held alive under hunting permi
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: Trapset]
#7995268
11/15/23 05:25 PM
11/15/23 05:25 PM
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Joined: Jun 2012
kansas
larrywaugh
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trapper
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kansas
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One bad experience with a warden will make you forget every positive encounter. I have never had a bad experience with a police officer. Game wardens not so much.
Won't take no prisoners,won't spare no lives.
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: Trapset]
#7995293
11/15/23 05:55 PM
11/15/23 05:55 PM
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Joined: Dec 2010
Armpit, ak
Dirt
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trapper
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Armpit, ak
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Here take my license cousin Paul from out of State that looks somewhat like me. No need to buy an expensive NR license/ tag. Just tell them you are me. I'll order me a duplicate.
Last edited by Dirt; 11/15/23 06:03 PM.
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: dixieland]
#7995319
11/15/23 06:36 PM
11/15/23 06:36 PM
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Joined: Apr 2017
PA
lumberjack391
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trapper
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PA
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One time I got stopped while I was checking down at a creek. Got my license out while I was headed towards them at my truck. New, navy seal looking guy, chcekd my license and everythings OK. hIs ride-along, who was quite up in age was going through my traps (I assume checking for tags) was starting to wear thin on me while the other guy and I was talking. I yelled out "can I help you with something".and he finally stopped fingering my traps. My question is so what if a tag was missing, they are in the back of my truck- not set. The main guy said sternly "we are leasig this ground starting next year and you will be required to wear blaze orange". because I was in camo. Thanks for the warning boss I just wrote thosee 3 stops off. I hate wearing orange when Im trapping especially when Im fairly close to the road. Wait a minute, you got to wear orange, just to trap? Oh, never mind, I see you’re up there in the country where a guy can’t even hunt on Sunday. WAAAAY too much control. On property owned and leased by the PGC for orange. Now they allow you a couple Sundays for hunting god bless them.
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: dixieland]
#7995334
11/15/23 06:57 PM
11/15/23 06:57 PM
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Joined: Jan 2009
Nebraska
Trapset
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OP
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Nebraska
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Since most states, if not all, get your DL info when you get your license, would just take them a couple minutes to cross reference anyway, if they were suspicious. Some just ask for DL only, and cross reference to see if you have a hunting license. I agree Dirt, that can, or rather could happen. However, its up to them to prove your illegal, not up to you to prove your innocent. It would be way easier for LEO if they could just walk into your house if they suspect your up to no good in there but thats not how it works. If we give up or quit using our rights that seem small or petty we run the risk of loosing them all. JMO
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: lumberjack391]
#7995358
11/15/23 07:40 PM
11/15/23 07:40 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
SEPA
Lugnut
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SEPA
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The main guy said sternly "we are leasig this ground starting next year and you will be required to wear blaze orange". because I was in camo. Thanks for the warning boss I just wrote thosee 3 stops off. I hate wearing orange when Im trapping especially when Im fairly close to the road. Wait a minute, you got to wear orange, just to trap? Oh, never mind, I see you’re up there in the country where a guy can’t even hunt on Sunday. WAAAAY too much control. On property owned and leased by the PGC for orange. Now they allow you a couple Sundays for hunting god bless them. To the best of my knowledge, trappers are not required to wear blaze orange anywhere in the state, including land owned or leased by the PGC. PGC Blaze Orange Requirements
Eh...wot?
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: Trapset]
#7995361
11/15/23 07:48 PM
11/15/23 07:48 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Coldspring Texas
Savell
"Wilbur"
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"Wilbur"
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Coldspring Texas
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… game wardens touch priests in places they’re not comfortable with
(Uncle Swamp excluded of course)
Insert profound nonsense here
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: Savell]
#7995371
11/15/23 07:58 PM
11/15/23 07:58 PM
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Joined: Apr 2009
South Ga - Almost Florida
Swamp Wolf
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South Ga - Almost Florida
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… game wardens touch priests in places they’re not comfortable with
(Uncle Swamp excluded of course) Thank you!!
Thank God For Your Blessings! Never Half-Arse Anything!
Resource Protection Service
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: larrywaugh]
#7995393
11/15/23 08:27 PM
11/15/23 08:27 PM
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Joined: Aug 2012
MO
trap master
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MO
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I think you are required to provide identification if asked. They look you up to see if you have warrants. Surprisingly they do not, you would so but they never do
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: Trapset]
#7995405
11/15/23 08:43 PM
11/15/23 08:43 PM
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Joined: Jun 2022
Manitoba
Shakeyjake
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Manitoba
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They’ve got a tough, low paying job here. Guessing it’s the same in the states. The wildlife act is so vague it’s hard to get answers to questions in writing. I’ve never been asked for ID but I could see why they’d want to verify whose license you’re holding. There was one fella in SE MB that could be a bit of a jerk. His office staff would warn their friends when he was heading out…lol. Thankfully he’s been moved.
Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
#7995418
11/15/23 08:55 PM
11/15/23 08:55 PM
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Joined: Oct 2011
Idaho
bearcat2
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trapper
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Idaho
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![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2023/11/full-11603-195630-screenshot_20231114_090529_google.jpg) Stop times can vary widely. There is no set time limit. If the officer can articulate reasonable suspicion of a crime then a lengthier time would be warranted... Btw...this is referring to a traffic stop, but GW conpliance checks will fall into this broader category... One stopped my parents years ago (over 20) and held them for over an hour and half. Ended up hauling my mom in to jail when she refused to answer questions any more and wrote her up for hunting without a license (she was just riding with my dad and never got out of the pickup, nor did she even have a gun). They went to court and the lawyer told them that the law reads they have "about ten minutes" to hold you, if they hold you more than "about ten minutes" they have legally arrested you even if they don't say anything of the kind. The wardens swore repeatedly under oath that they held them for "about ten minutes" even after the radio transcripts were admitted with the exact times of every radio call from when they were stopped to when he cuffed my mother. The judge threw it out and chewed the warden out that arrested her, but they never do anything to them for lying under oath. I've seen good and bad over the years, some states are notorious for wardens that are on power trip and know you have done something wrong, if they can just figure out what it is. Others are just doing a job, and are nice guys. The management in charge and doing the hiring and training can have a big effect on whether the wardens you run into in the woods are nice guys who are more interested in wildlife management than throwing their weight around (they all are going to write you a ticket if you are doing something illegal, it is their job) or whether they are arrogant bullies.
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Re: Game Warden ?? CAN/US
[Re: Lugnut]
#7995494
11/15/23 09:50 PM
11/15/23 09:50 PM
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Joined: Apr 2017
PA
lumberjack391
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PA
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[quote=lumberjack391] The main guy said sternly "we are leasig this ground starting next year and you will be required to wear blaze orange". because I was in camo. Thanks for the warning boss I just wrote thosee 3 stops off. I hate wearing orange when Im trapping especially when Im fairly close to the road. Wait a minute, you got to wear orange, just to trap? Oh, never mind, I see you’re up there in the country where a guy can’t even hunt on Sunday. WAAAAY too much control. On property owned and leased by the PGC for orange. Now they allow you a couple Sundays for hunting god bless them. To the best of my knowledge, trappers are not required to wear blaze orange anywhere in the state, including land owned or leased by the PGC. PGC Blaze Orange Requirements[/quote] I checked into it and it looks like only from nov 15-dec 15 (deer season). I think I remember him saying that. Of course, thats when I happen to be rolling through there.
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