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Re: Trapping pistol opinions
[Re: ks wolfer]
#7995290
11/15/23 04:51 PM
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St. Louis Co, Mo
BigBob
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Cimarron, Plinkerton, well made, very reasonably priced.
Every kid needs a Dog and a Curmudgeon.
Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor.
Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!
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Re: Trapping pistol opinions
[Re: 3togo]
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11/16/23 04:42 PM
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Iowa
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Maybe a Ruger SR22. Pretty small, easily fits into a back pocket.
But any semi-auto will not function correctly with shorts. You may need to load one at a time.
Jayme, prove me incorrect. You're right for the most part but that Beretta 950 Minx is .22 short only. Mine functions great. They are not sold anymore, so availability and price may make it not an option for most guys.
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Re: Trapping pistol opinions
[Re: ~ADC~]
#7996094
11/16/23 06:18 PM
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Wisconsin
Pierce
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Is that a Tomcat? I've been fairly certain that I need one lately.
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Re: Trapping pistol opinions
[Re: ks wolfer]
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11/16/23 08:26 PM
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Shakeyjake
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Bersa Thunder 22, stainless with rosewood grips. I still have to apply for a wilderness carry permit though…lol. Worth a shot. Worst they can do is say no.
Wind Blew, crap flew, out came the line crew
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Re: Trapping pistol opinions
[Re: Pierce]
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11/16/23 08:50 PM
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Iowa
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Is that a Tomcat? I've been fairly certain that I need one lately. Beretta 950 Minx, .22 short only.
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Re: Trapping pistol opinions
[Re: ~ADC~]
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11/16/23 08:57 PM
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Wisconsin
Pierce
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Is that a Tomcat? I've been fairly certain that I need one lately. Beretta 950 Minx, .22 short only. I missed the shorts in the photo. I don't recall seeing a Minx's before. Thanks!
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Re: Trapping pistol opinions
[Re: ks wolfer]
#7996292
11/16/23 10:28 PM
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Goldsboro, North Carolina
Paul Dobbins
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Been carrying a ruger single six for years loaded with shorts for dispatch and snakes looking to carry something lighter shorter barrel 22 needs to revolver for shorts looking at a high standard sentinel 4 inch barrel. I also have big hands fingers wouldn't fit in a Bearcat thoughts---opinions ?? I have a Hi standard Sentinel with the 4 inch barrel. That nine shot revolver has worked great for me over the years. I always put rat shot in the first 5 holes for snakes and long rifle or shorts in the last four holes for dispatch.
John 14:6 Jesus answered, " I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
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Re: Trapping pistol opinions
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
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11/19/23 10:55 AM
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ks wolfer
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Been carrying a ruger single six for years loaded with shorts for dispatch and snakes looking to carry something lighter shorter barrel 22 needs to revolver for shorts looking at a high standard sentinel 4 inch barrel. I also have big hands fingers wouldn't fit in a Bearcat thoughts---opinions ?? I have a Hi standard Sentinel with the 4 inch barrel. That nine shot revolver has worked great for me over the years. I always put rat shot in the first 5 holes for snakes and long rifle or shorts in the last four holes for dispatch. Paul did yours seem fussy about ammo brand or type ? Going to pick it up next week
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Re: Trapping pistol opinions
[Re: ks wolfer]
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11/20/23 11:04 PM
11/20/23 11:04 PM
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Goldsboro, North Carolina
Paul Dobbins
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I have a Hi standard Sentinel with the 4 inch barrel. That nine shot revolver has worked great for me over the years. I always put rat shot in the first 5 holes for snakes and long rifle or shorts in the last four holes for dispatch.
Paul did yours seem fussy about ammo brand or type ? Going to pick it up next week I didn't notice it being choosy about what ammo it shot. But my shots were generally within 5 - 15 feet. The four inch barrel worked better with the rat shot than the six inch barrel on my H&R. I reckon it's because the barrel being shorter doesn't cause it to not engage the rifling as long. It doesn't spread so much from the centrifugal force as it travels down the rifling and comes out of the shorter barrel. I don't know if that's why, but it makes sense to me.
John 14:6 Jesus answered, " I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
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Re: Trapping pistol opinions
[Re: ks wolfer]
#8001591
11/23/23 08:49 AM
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I have been carrying this K22 in a chesty puller harness this season. Eley subsonic HP makes short work of a coyote. ![[Linked Image]](https://i.postimg.cc/tT2dJbT8/IMG-2682.jpg)
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Re: Trapping pistol opinions
[Re: Alder]
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11/23/23 10:34 AM
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Does anyone ever feel the need for more gun than a .22 on the line? I carried a 357 Blackhawk trapping in Lion and Bear country
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Re: Trapping pistol opinions
[Re: Shakeyjake]
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11/23/23 01:20 PM
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nightlife
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Bersa Thunder 22, stainless with rosewood grips. I still have to apply for a wilderness carry permit though…lol. Worth a shot. Worst they can do is say no. I have one of those and love it, the only problem is the mags are hard to find and when you do expensive I love 22 pistols and if I told how many I have would probably get some odd looks, frankly I have everything mentioned and a few others as well, if your looking for a semi in 22 short good luck, I don’t think and company currently makes one so your stuck with the used market If it was me I would look for a Astra cub it a copy of the Colt junior but doesn’t carry the premium for the colt name or for the Berreta for that matter Frankly I use my Bersa Thunderer and run CCI CB Longs through it, or the CB quiets neither cycle the action but that’s not a problem
�Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks.� ― Robert A. Heinlein
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Re: Trapping pistol opinions
[Re: Alder]
#8002554
11/24/23 12:11 PM
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49th State
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Does anyone ever feel the need for more gun than a .22 on the line? I have. It had to do with a sow brown bear with two cubs out on New Year’s Eve. Not fun.
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Re: Trapping pistol opinions
[Re: ks wolfer]
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11/27/23 07:48 PM
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Ruger Mark II, 4 1/2" barrel. Very accurate.
"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
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Re: Trapping pistol opinions
[Re: ks wolfer]
#8006467
11/28/23 09:23 PM
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Idaho / Virginia
Ryan Phoenix
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![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2023/11/full-18255-197437-img_0027.jpeg) My comments are going to get into dispatch a little bit, which seems to be a touchy subject on the internet with some people - which I can understand - but I remember when I was first starting out, it was actually impossible to find a good answer on calibers for this purpose and I actually think it was a detriment to me as a beginner. I think it’s sort of important to address. If it’s going to be an issue, the mods can delete this comment and I won’t protest. At the time, I knew a lot of guys were using .22 WMR (let’s just call it a 22 Mag) for coyotes, I didn’t have a 22 Mag but I had a 22 (.22 LR) and I figured - how big can the difference really be. So I took the standard 22 out in the beginning. Now. Maybe a standard 22 is just fine for some eastern and southern coyotes, they’re a lot smaller and I’ve trapped on the east coast, too. But out west they’re pretty big dogs and I had a very negative experience using a standard 22. I’m not talking about one bad experience, I’m talking about one full season with multiple dispatches and the 22 was not enough punch and I knew I needed to plus up to a 22 Mag. Long story short, I now own the above revolver and LOVE it. It’s the Heritage Rough Rider (4.75” barrel, there are multiple options), it retails for $209 now but I got it for $179 a few years back, and it has interchangeable cylinders for both standard 22 and 22 Mag (price comes with both cylinders). I now carry the one revolver with both cylinders, and rounds for both. What I’ve found is that the standard 22 isn’t big enough to put a big coyote down quick, and the 22 Mag is too much gun for raccoons, etc. I like to run mixed lines and always will, which is why I carry both cylinders and use the appropriate one for the respective critter. The 22 Mag is perfect for coyotes - dispatches them quickly, quietly, and ethically, which is what we should all be aiming for (and I know we do). If I catch a coon or something similar, I swap cylinders, toss in a standard 22 round and it also gets the job done quickly and effectively. I love this gun, it’s a phenomenal little revolver, looks great, runs great, and is a fair price for what you’re getting (even with the small price increase over the years) and I’ll always have it handy. I grew up in bear/cougar country and if I was running lines in the backwoods and was concerned with bear protection, this is not the option. I carry a different handgun when I’m hunting. This serves a different purpose and most of my lines are on Ag land within 400-500y of my truck, at most. I highly recommend it. Again, I know we avoid dispatch talk like the plague around here and if I’m out of bounds, I apologize. But, truly, when I was a beginner and was trying to figure out what to use - there was almost NO info at all on it, I made the wrong decision, and I had some awful experiences using standard 22s on big western coyotes and - never again. This is a great handgun at a price point that I think is more than fair, I love carrying it, and it works phenomenally well.
Idaho Trappers Association Intermountain Fur Harvesters Montana Trappers Association Alaska Trappers Association Virginia Trappers Association NTA
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Re: Trapping pistol opinions
[Re: ks wolfer]
#8006571
11/28/23 11:42 PM
11/28/23 11:42 PM
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Goldsboro, North Carolina
Paul Dobbins
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Thank you for everyone's input. Concerning dispatch I have been using 22 shorts for fifty years------dang that makes me sound old ---- don't take this in a wrong way but it is imperative to put that 22 short in exactly the right spot my grandfather taught me to create a visual x from eye to ear left to right right to left. A 22 short there works good . I know they are more expensive but I like the low noise level AND they have worked many hundreds of times for me. Again in large predator country I do not carry a 22 then its a 357 with a few low power loads in pocket for dispatch I recall when I went with dad, all he ever used was 22 shorts.
John 14:6 Jesus answered, " I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
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Re: Trapping pistol opinions
[Re: ks wolfer]
#8006858
11/29/23 10:25 AM
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Idaho
bearcat2
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As noted above, I have been carrying a 22 mag this year, but I'm going to disagree with Ryan, a 22 mag is totally unnecessary for coyotes, in fact it is unnecessary for their larger brother, the wolf. I have had excellent success with a regular long rifle on both and have used longs on coyotes with good success, though I have not used shorts I would not hesitate to use them with solids on coyotes. I have hound hunted my whole life and carried a Ruger single six with swappable cylinders for many years, then switched to a Rossi Circuit Judge rifle, also with swappable 22lr/22mag cylinders. I like the option of switching cylinders, and prefer the magnum for cougars, although again with proper shot placement and a good round the long rifle will work fine. And while it wouldn't be my preferred self protection gun, I would not hesitate to shot any animal in North America with the 22 magnum, were it legal, it is an absolutely deadly round that performs much better in the real world than the ballistic numbers on paper would indicate.
I suspect Ryan's problem with 22 long rifle was the ammo he was using, some of the ammo I have tried over the years just does not perform well.
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Re: Trapping pistol opinions
[Re: bearcat2]
#8007142
11/29/23 06:13 PM
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Idaho / Virginia
Ryan Phoenix
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That’s quite possible and, actually, I don’t disagree with you. 22 Mag has always seemed like it was overkill but it does put them down in short order and I’ve always been pleased with the results when it comes to hide damage, entry/exit, etc. And once I found something that worked, I just continued using it instead of searching for a better standard 22 round.
If you have suggestions for better standard 22 rounds to use in this occasion, I would be interested in hearing your opinions as I’m always trying to expand my options.
If anything, the experience opened me up to the world of 22 Mag, which I actually really like now, and I do enjoy that revolver with swappable cylinders.
Idaho Trappers Association Intermountain Fur Harvesters Montana Trappers Association Alaska Trappers Association Virginia Trappers Association NTA
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Re: Trapping pistol opinions
[Re: ks wolfer]
#8008040
11/30/23 05:15 PM
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Peoria County Illinois
Larry Baer
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I wore out 2 H&R revolvers and got a Smith and Wesson last. It's wearing just fine and shoots any .22 just fine form CB's to .22 long rifle. I have a small Pheonix .22 pistol that fits in my pocket I have used but it needs hot loads to cycle reliably. Shorts and subsonics work fine in the smith revolver.
Just passin through
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Re: Trapping pistol opinions
[Re: steeltraps]
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11/30/23 09:26 PM
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Idaho
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I know a government trapper that uses a 22 pellet gun. Bout like a 22 short. He kills 500 plus coyotes a year. MANY with a 22 pellet rifle So 22 short is plenty IF proper shot placement is made I've got a 25 caliber pellet rifle I've killed a ton of bobcats with. Hadn't shot it in years, since the scope on it broke. Just put a new scope on it yesterday and sighted it in this morning. Maybe I'll pack it and dispatch a wolf with it, just to say I did.
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