I never saw any kind of alcohol in a Masonic Lodge. Cigarettes weren't allowed either. Or in a Scottish Rite Temple. My FIL was an OOF till the day he died and their lodge was very formal. No alcohol.
I know the Shriners drink during their activities but then I was never a Shriner. It's not what I wanted to do.

Well, I don't know. I've not been an active member for 40+ years. Still I not say anything bad about the Masons.

All you Mason haters out there;
If your kid or grandkid gets sick, say cancer or burns, etc. and you're hard up for cash to get your kid some medical attention, go to a Masonic Hall or a Shrine Unit. They might be able to get the kid into one of their hospitals.

I'm done with this thread.

The theology of Free Masonry is not Christian. Are there true Christians who are Free Masons? Yes.

The charitable work by the Masons is outstanding. Their theology is whacky at best.

There is a Free Mason guy who has been a member of our church for years, however, he is not allowed a position of leadership or teaching, and he's fine with that.

I have a friend who's 17 year old daughter is in the Shriners hospital in Tennessee undergoing cancer treatment, she's been there for several month, and will be there for at least a couple more. Her treatment seems to be going great. ALL expenses are paid in full, even the airfare of her parents or guardian flying back and forth from Seattle. One parent or adult guardian must be there at all times. And they live in an apartment paid for by the Shriners. I can't say enough good about Shriners hospital.

The Good thing is God Judges the Heart

I thought James had a legitimate question, quoting scripture from Rom 13

There are man's rules and God's rules.

Good answer

Mole,
This is a very good question.
The Knights of Columbus are a secret arginization.
It seems that most of our religious organizations have been infiltrated by The Society of Jesus.
The Jesuits.

First,let me say that Free Masonry is a brotherhood, not a religon. Much said on here has been said by non Masons that do not know what they are talking about.I am not about to reveal anything about the organization or the Shriners.. My father, both grandfathers, and a great grandfather were all Masons.I can tell you that the Masons are very involved in medical research and the Shriners operate Childrens Hospitals.2024 will mark my 60th year as a Mason and 25th year as a Shriner.

Very true Fisherman. Eric

My father was a member of the Knights of Columbus over 60 years, went to exactly one meeting but paid the dues...He said he had better things to do then hang out with guys cheating on their wife's....

I have no need to be a member of basically a mens club,

You dont want to dream up your own Supreme Architect as some masons have and choose to idolize Lucifer? I mean you can create your own Supreme Being and make up your own God. What possibly could be wrong with that?

Uninformed ignorance. Eric

What about the handshake?

Are their secret handshakes similar?

There's a fine line

George Washinton was a mason.

Yes

i have no problem with or supporting these organizations But as a Lutheran I'm not supposed to Or belong to The Eagles

All religions are man made. God made man without alliance to any religion.

Is that because the Eagles lean more to the support of a main deity and don't hold Jesus as that different from anyone else who does right?

Keith