Thanks Jacko for at least acknowledging me being alive

Hope your doing well, i sat on the NTA board and they are not informed either so don't feel bad.

Buzzard please get your facts straight before posting. I'll happily admit anything that I have ever done, but I have not "filed three grievances with the NTA that went nowhere." Where in the world do you get your often incorrect info when it comes to me? This isn't the first time you've accused me of off-the-wall things I haven't done! I've not forgot you falsely accusing me of turning you into the law either, just so you know.

So to enlighten you or whoever else is reading your bs, I have, about a decade ago, filed ONE complaint against a board member of the NTA who cast an illegal ballot in an election for a seat on the executive council which led to the guilty party resigning from the association. Three other board members also filed charges against her in that case. After the resignation was accepted, the Ethics Committee at that time found that there was not enough evidence to prove that she did not know she was not allowed to vote, despite written documentation from before the convention where she said that she did know that. So that was the one and only time I filed a grievance.

If you have some other thing in mind please let us know what the heck you are talking about.

Facts straight ? Not sure what that means ?? I am here only to ask questions,

Dobbins gave me help and a person to help me with my questions.

I thanked him for it personally on the fone

Personally I thank you for your perspective, it is enlightening

Thank You

Yeah, facts straight.

You said:



That is not true. Therefore, your facts are not straight.

Just information ℹ have been told, so I ask questions

Again, Thank you for your perspective

Dang Buzzard. You might want to consider changing your Tman name to Crawfish...lol

Thanks for answering that Paul! The FTA used to be a good ol boys club, with no real goals than having a rondy and be a member. Things have changed, they are becoming a force, much better equipped to handle the job ahead. We just had a Gov Board meeting, Sunday evening, which lasted a bit over three hours. We are fighting three law suits at present, and all of this takes money, unfortunately! Please buy a calendar to help raise money to continue the fight, and get a chance to win either a gun or cash prize every day in 2024. We still only have one paid position in the Fur Takers, Christina Jones, who traps with her husband and on her own. Many committees do a bulk of the work, all for free for the trappers of this country. I have one year left on the Gov Board, and will turn my spot over to a younger and smarter trapper, but I am very proud of what the Fur Takers have accomplished in the last nearly five years. Come be a part of it in Harrisonburg, Va. the date is June 13-15, 2024. See you there!

I will state again dave hastings and the
Fur takers were there from the start with NM

Been hanging behind the curtain for a while. Leaning mostly from other trappers. But when I saw these posts all I can say is "I told you so". John Daniel's is no good and has his agenda. I saw where he was personally responsible in dividing Tennessee. You voted him in and now voted him in again. Fools!

So I think getting a nasty gram from any prominent national organization is a badge of honor. It seems to me there is most likely some corruption but that's nothing new in money and politics. I had a sitting us senator wave off the cameras once because he didn't want his picture taken with me but that's nowhere near as cool as the letter you got. Way to kick the hornets nest!

Dangyou Angela !!! I have enough problems sleeping at nite!!
Gabapenton for my pains creats enough stupid dream,
I really don't need you to wake me up at 2 am
Yea, you! I know it's med focused and Gabapenton
Is a major contributer but I can't keep you outta my head
I ain't fond of you and neither are you of me
But I find myself believing in you for some reason
You have been a pain in the arse for all
Trapping orgs for years, I would hope we could agree on that
In essence, and Dobbins will shut me down
I am sure, why aren't you on the ticket
For nta president ? I have spoke with Daniel's a couple
A times, as well as Travis from the FTA
Daniel's left me wondering if there is any
Hope to fur trapping at all, his closed mouth
Kept me wondering if he had any contact at all
With his membership.
I spoke of this to Travis in newmexico,
I won't go into the details but I was told it was a lie
I ain't perfect, am behind the politics

But if you have cast a spell on me,
I mean no ill intent, the dreams caused
By Gabapenton are a bit much for me

This post of my own basically to Angela
Is supposed to make a person smile
Thanks kid for messing up my sleep,
Here's hoping Pete still has some lead in his pencil

Now stay outta my head please !

I thought you said you quit drinking Buzzard? LOL

In all honestly I didn't realize how bad of a shape NTA was in until after the deadline passed for nominations. I doubt I would have ran, but I would have tried to find someone to run that I believed could win, had I known. But since leaving the NTA over a decade ago as director, I really hadn't been paying too much attention.

But people like me running for president is soon to be a thing of the past. In the most recent magazine article there is a ballot to disallow anyone who is not currently, or has been, a member of the executive council to run for President. If that passes, only a handful of good ol boys would even be eligible to run.

They may have booted me to the curb but I guess they still want my donation? This showed up today, lol.

That office does a bang up job, can't get zip codes correct costing no telling what in postage, sending crap to people not even members anymore and who know's what else. Least they ALL got a fancy award for all their dedication and hard work at the awards banquet. May as well be parcipation trophy's now, awards use to mean something and those who won them were held in high regard, is all watered down now just handing them out willy nilly to everyone. But that still is comical.

Come April 29th...2 years

I am so out of the loop it's really
Crazy for me , my first intent is
A knee jerk remark or retrial
On what I I am ignorant, I make no excuses for that.
You have never been appreciated, nor liked
But as I said above, if all the salt
You bring forth, make to us layman
Can appreciate your sacrifices
Thank you again for all you do,
Just please stay out of my head,
Wouldn't mind a good nite sleep

One last thing before I log off for a week, maybe a year or 2 years

Thanks again for your hard work, I will not
be around to see if it works out, good luck

I wanted to do this pm wise but your over your limit
Take care and watch out for Pete with the cotton mouths, I imagine he is a bit slow these days

In light of the number of people posting on this topic it is obviously a subject that has the attention of many people And it is a sad fact that often times when people do the right thing for all the right reason they become subject to being raked across the coals because they decide to present their knowledge of the situation I had some questions about was happening with the N TA this time and how did tt relate to other prior issues that seem to follow the NTA around That person gave me his opinion on the situation He was fair minded and not judgement towards the NTA or its leadership current or past I have seen during my time being involve with volunteer groups what an happened to good people that where not able to handle their duties or allowing their position to undo their otherwise solid foundation of doing what is right .fs It seems clear that there is some reason to think at least some of what has been said happened actual did happen .And now the ones involved once again ae trying to roadblock those that are seeking knowledge . For those directly involved in some of the issues that they revealed to all of us Thank you IT would be much easier to keep your mouth shut and let some ne else get drug through the mud .For those that do not know anyone of a first hand basis but feels the need to make personal comments remember we are all trappers And it is not to anyone's lasting advantage to make comments that only have the chance of ruining friendships that are real and worth while Thanks to all that have been willing to offer their insight into thi issue It seems rather clear that there is some a merit and it needs o be addressed

That's what I'd like to hear instead of innuendo. What's the whole story, does anyone posting here know??

Only the EC and the lawyer actually know what is happening within the NTA. In my opinion, that's by design cause I can't believe that 50+ directors are all so silent or uninformed with all the reports that JD has stated he makes to the board. Still waiting for anyone to come forward with documented evidence rather than 'political speak' to change my opinion.

I do however believe the NTA attorney is very good at his specialty ... Environmental Issues. But again that's only my opinion.