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Re: Sick geese again. [Re: Trapper Dahlgren] #8001600
11/23/23 09:02 AM
11/23/23 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Trapper Dahlgren
good read, thanks for posting, can people get sick, say they shoot one that just got it,



No case transferred to humans that way that I’ve heard of. The Hunting guide says cook them well and never said to avoid them. It’s amazing how little warning or information is out there to let people know what’s happening to humans and wildlife wise.

You would think such knowledge would be shared more regularly vs the denial stance or some bird flu cases have been reported.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Sick geese again. [Re: Law Dog] #8001666
11/23/23 10:08 AM
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Clay I seem to remember several years back that a warning was put out to not eat ducks and geese harvested in our area. Blamed it on them eating contaminated grain up north during migration. Do you remember anything about that and could it have been bird flu instead?

Re: Sick geese again. [Re: Law Dog] #8001724
11/23/23 11:05 AM
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Sometimes the problem with shooting sic critters just because they are sic is, we kill the ones that might survive the disease and pass on immunity.

Re: Sick geese again. [Re: Law Dog] #8001731
11/23/23 11:12 AM
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You know how to get a "sample" for testing right? just remember to lick your finger before, not after....


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just put your ear to the ground , and follow along

Re: Sick geese again. [Re: BigBob] #8001732
11/23/23 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by BigBob
Just one symptom of overpopulation, and loss of habitat crowding them together.

That would be my take on it too.


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Re: Sick geese again. [Re: Trapset] #8001741
11/23/23 11:22 AM
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Found 2 dead swans in a big slough, first I thought someone shot them, maybe not.

Re: Sick geese again. [Re: Trapset] #8001748
11/23/23 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Trapset
Sometimes the problem with shooting sic critters just because they are sic is, we kill the ones that might survive the disease and pass on immunity.



I lost 70 chickens last year not one survived. I doubt any large number of birds are being put down because next to nothing is being done about it that I know of the current outlook is if they die they die. It seems wildlife agencies don’t want to know and do not want to share much real info about what’s going on this problem is huge yet not much is being said or explained about what’s going on.

The virus is thought to have a 120 day life span that’s probably less when exposed to sunlight as UV rays kill many viruses.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: Sick geese again. [Re: Rat Masterson] #8001750
11/23/23 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Found 2 dead swans in a big slough, first I thought someone shot them, maybe not.


pick up swans for WDFW,

most in the past 10 plus year had lead poisoning


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Re: Sick geese again. [Re: Law Dog] #8001832
11/23/23 01:02 PM
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Put another snow out of its misery this morning

Re: Sick geese again. [Re: Law Dog] #8001854
11/23/23 01:22 PM
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I wonder if it could be the polluted water or agriculture spray poisoning the water. We never see dead waterfowl like that here in western Alaska, and we have a lot of waterfowl here.

Re: Sick geese again. [Re: Law Dog] #8001868
11/23/23 02:06 PM
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Picked up several carcasses today then buried them in a burn barrel under some bark until I can burn it.


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Re: Sick geese again. [Re: Law Dog] #8001925
11/23/23 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Originally Posted by Trapset
Sometimes the problem with shooting sic critters just because they are sic is, we kill the ones that might survive the disease and pass on immunity.



I lost 70 chickens last year not one survived. I doubt any large number of birds are being put down because next to nothing is being done about it that I know of the current outlook is if they die they die. It seems wildlife agencies don’t want to know and do not want to share much real info about what’s going on this problem is huge yet not much is being said or explained about what’s going on.

The virus is thought to have a 120 day life span that’s probably less when exposed to sunlight as UV rays kill many viruses.

Our wildlife agency is a political pawn -- controlled by our (always) liberal governor. Have lost alot of respect for them in the last 15years.

Re: Sick geese again. [Re: Law Dog] #8001980
11/23/23 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Originally Posted by Trapset
Sometimes the problem with shooting sic critters just because they are sic is, we kill the ones that might survive the disease and pass on immunity.



I lost 70 chickens last year not one survived. I doubt any large number of birds are being put down because next to nothing is being done about it that I know of the current outlook is if they die they die. It seems wildlife agencies don’t want to know and do not want to share much real info about what’s going on this problem is huge yet not much is being said or explained about what’s going on.

The virus is thought to have a 120 day life span that’s probably less when exposed to sunlight as UV rays kill many viruses.


I was just speaking generally, and about wild critters. I’m sure it’s not an absolute.

Re: Sick geese again. [Re: Law Dog] #8002056
11/23/23 07:03 PM
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Do you band check the carcasses ?

Re: Sick geese again. [Re: Law Dog] #8002067
11/23/23 07:16 PM
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At least they let you put them out of their misery.

Re: Sick geese again. [Re: Law Dog] #8002079
11/23/23 07:29 PM
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If you are handling birds that you think may have died of AI, you might do good to look up the protocol on handling them. There is a good chance If you are hauling them home to burn, or your cats are hauling then home to eat, that is how your chickens got it.
Here is a copy paste about it.
Most cases of avian influenza infection in humans have resulted from direct contact with infected poultry (e.g., domesticated chickens, ducks, and turkeys) or contact with surfaces contaminated with saliva, mucus, or feces from infected poultry. Direct exposure happens when virus particles in aerosolized droplets or dust are inhaled or contact a person’s mucous membranes, such as their eyes, nose, or mouth. Exposure can also occur when a person touches a contaminated surface, object, or material and then touches the mouth, nose, or eyes. The length of time that avian influenza viruses can survive on surfaces varies by the surface type and environmental factors such as temperature and humidity. They can survive longer under cold and wet conditions (weeks to months) than under warm, dry conditions (hours to days). Therefore, routine cleaning and disinfection is recommended in areas that may become contaminated with infectious particles. While uncommon, cases of human-to-human transmission have occurred. Most of these cases have involved unprotected, close, and prolonged contact between a sick patient and a caregiver.


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Re: Sick geese again. [Re: Law Dog] #8002495
11/24/23 10:15 AM
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amazing wild birds and animals are ok to eat but a deer pen or large chicken flock gets sick destroy them not safe to eat that got it from the wild ones

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