Re: Old guns
[Re: seniortrap]
#8011868
12/04/23 10:00 PM
12/04/23 10:00 PM
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Posco
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Posco
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I wasn't taking a shot at Mainelogger. I've owned an AR and it's a fun gun to shoot but the whole tactical craze has gone too far, at least in my thinking. Much better choices for a deer rifle out the to choose from.
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Re: Old guns
[Re: seniortrap]
#8011890
12/04/23 10:15 PM
12/04/23 10:15 PM
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Joined: Dec 2006
ND
MJM
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If a firearm is reliable , functions and shoots with in reason, how is one any better than the other? It all seems like personal choice to me. I am not a lever action fan myself, but could care less if you like them. If you want to hunt with an AR how is it different than any other semi auto?
"Not Really, Not Really" Mark J Monti "MJM you're a jerk."
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Re: Old guns
[Re: MJM]
#8011899
12/04/23 10:22 PM
12/04/23 10:22 PM
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Posco
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Posco
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If a firearm is reliable , functions and shoots with in reason, how is one any better than the other? It all seems like personal choice to me. I am not a lever action fan myself, but could care less if you like them. If you want to hunt with an AR how is it different than any other semi auto? Plastic.
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Re: Old guns
[Re: seniortrap]
#8011924
12/04/23 10:41 PM
12/04/23 10:41 PM
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Joined: Sep 2013
Green County Wisconsin
GREENCOUNTYPETE
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Green County Wisconsin
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I like old guns ,the only issue being old guns have old sighting systems and that is one area that has improved greatly.
the other thing is old guns are harder and harder to get parts for and harder to clean
I have special place for M37 Ithica's , 1903A3 , 30-30s
the 870 is 72 years and 500 and 62 years old those are my 2 go-to shotguns mine are not that old but I had a 870 from 1954 and my current 870 is a 1985 police magnum my 500 is one of my newest shotguns dating from 1990 if I am going hunting in the rain it is what you will find in my hand. it cleans easy and parts are all over the place.
ok back to sighting systems the Mauser type sights don't lend themselves to fast target acquisition like an LPVO or even a good peep. if there is no way to mount better sights or optic , or it takes a lot to clean all the spots then it is for fair weather and fun range shooting.
I would rather enjoy an 03A3 with the original sights than start drilling into it to make it something it isn't
my 30-30 wears a globe front and a peep rear because it didn't modify the gun any.
for deer or any game at 25-125 yards the old cartridges do very well 35rem , 30-30win , 32win spl , 38-55 , 45-70 , and many others and they do a good job of making 2 holes
when you are looking for a hunting rifle and you can buy a new gun for 400 dollars and drop an optic on it and be ready to sight in and go hunting if anything is wrong with it send it back to the manufacuter for a warrantee , if you break anything parts are no problem or you can spend 400 and get an old sporterise Mauser with old rings and a scope that has foggy by comparison glass , then try and find a new scope that fits the old mounts and hope that it shoots and your not getting some one's mistake.
Muzzle loader sales tell us a lot more people are hunters than muzzle loaders or inlines with optics that shoot 209 and pelletized powder wouldn't be the most common thing. heck the fire stick really takes it to a muzzleloading cartridge gun.
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: Old guns
[Re: seniortrap]
#8011952
12/04/23 11:15 PM
12/04/23 11:15 PM
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Joined: Oct 2009
western mn
bucksnbears
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Most old guns were built better and feel WAY better then the crap in the past 20 years... Bring back Wood!
swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo
You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Re: Old guns
[Re: bucksnbears]
#8011972
12/04/23 11:42 PM
12/04/23 11:42 PM
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Joined: Jul 2016
South Carolina
Tom cat
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South Carolina
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Most old guns were built better and feel WAY better then the crap in the past 20 years... Bring back Wood! Amen!!!
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Re: Old guns
[Re: bucksnbears]
#8011999
12/05/23 12:28 AM
12/05/23 12:28 AM
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Joined: Jan 2007
Georgia
warrior
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Georgia
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Most old guns were built better and feel WAY better then the crap in the past 20 years... Bring back Wood! I would say yes and no. Internally modern cnc tooling allows new to hold to tighter tolerances meaning more consistent barrels and parts fitting. Accuracy has improved. Externally the old aesthetics are gone and the labor to hand fit wood to metal or rub on a proper coat of BLO would cost more than the cnc machine and don't even get me started on the environmental issues of hot bluing. So modern stuff has the potential to shoot straighter and be as ugly as a mud fence.
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Re: Old guns
[Re: seniortrap]
#8012027
12/05/23 01:23 AM
12/05/23 01:23 AM
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Joined: Sep 2013
Green County Wisconsin
GREENCOUNTYPETE
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Green County Wisconsin
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a nice thing about some of the modern guns is you get home from a day of hunting in the rain
toss a towel on the table and in 90 seconds with no tools the gun is apart you let it dry while you take a hot shower and when done hose out a few spots with a dry lube , give it a wipe down and put it back together in less than 2 minutes.
Last edited by GREENCOUNTYPETE; 12/05/23 01:24 AM.
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: Old guns
[Re: seniortrap]
#8012059
12/05/23 04:03 AM
12/05/23 04:03 AM
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Joined: May 2011
Garden,Michigan
Buck (Zandra)
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A friend of mine inherited his brothers gun collection,he asked me if I wanted a German mauser.When he was doling out the rifles to the grandchildren they wanted nothing to do with it.
Buck(formely known as Zandra)
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Re: Old guns
[Re: seniortrap]
#8012133
12/05/23 07:28 AM
12/05/23 07:28 AM
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Joined: Dec 2008
eastern WV
Ridge Runner1960
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Does any of you notice how the old guns from 50-100 years ago seem to be out of style?
Today if its not a 6mm, 6.5 or a 350 legend etc. its not any good.
I have a Winchester model 94 in .32 Win.spl. that my son thinks is too old. Its killed more deer than his rifles.
Also if your not a stick and string guy, your not cool. Or a compound bow. Let alone a crossbow (gun bow), your not with it.
Why don't we just setup land mines for our game? How about a claymore to take any and all down? Crazy, yes?
I'm done. just so you know, the faster twist does make a noticeable difference in bullet expansion. so the heavies expand pretty well.
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Re: Old guns
[Re: Diggerman]
#8012220
12/05/23 09:20 AM
12/05/23 09:20 AM
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Joined: Dec 2012
Northern WI
Line Jumper
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Northern WI
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How about the "new" gun you bought that is now the "old" gun, ie, the 7mmSTW Sendero. I say that’s a keeper, sadly I had a Sendero once and can’t even remember the caliber
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Re: Old guns
[Re: Scout1]
#8012254
12/05/23 10:03 AM
12/05/23 10:03 AM
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Joined: Dec 2006
Upper Michigan
Mack
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Upper Michigan
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Savage 99’s are hard to beat! I agree! I have one (.300 Caliber) that was made in 1937 and belonged to my grandfather. I got two deer with it this year.
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