Re: Old guns
[Re: warrior]
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12/05/23 09:10 PM
12/05/23 09:10 PM
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Diggerman
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I like old shotguns. This one is about 115 years old. Still works great. No telling how much game this on has killed. It belonged to my great grandpa. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2023/12/full-21678-198490-baker_paragon_2.jpg) I hunt with a black rifle too- I like them all. +20 style points yah, cept huntin squirrels with a shotgun, not cool.
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Re: Old guns
[Re: TreedaBlackdog]
#8012755
12/05/23 09:15 PM
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Joined: Sep 2013
Green County Wisconsin
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I think guns are going to change quite a bit in the next few years. With more and more 3D printing - I soon expect many more home made and small shop firearms being produced. I very much like the enthusiasm of todays youth who are printing off their own guns. I pray it continues and the technology allows all to be able to make guns at home. I am serious. I agree as they clamp down harder on regulation or attempt to , 80% and 0% keep getting more popular I hope it continues also I am sure an underhammer was a new fandangled thing at some point also that they learn how to build their own and make them their own is the important
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: Old guns
[Re: seniortrap]
#8012801
12/05/23 10:10 PM
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Joined: Jan 2007
Georgia
warrior
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Georgia
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yah, cept huntin squirrels with a shotgun, not cool. Leaves still on the trees, lol.
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Re: Old guns
[Re: seniortrap]
#8012818
12/05/23 10:30 PM
12/05/23 10:30 PM
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Joined: Feb 2018
Hi-Line Montana
Wild_Idaho
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Hi-Line Montana
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I have a Savage Model 99 lever .308 made in 1955. My go to big game gun. I also have a Savage Model 110 in 7mm rem mag made in '84. Not old but a great rifle. Then I have an AR in 6.5 grendel for a predator rifle.
Real name Eric The sharpest hammer in the box of crayons.
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Re: Old guns
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#8012851
12/05/23 11:15 PM
12/05/23 11:15 PM
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Joined: Oct 2009
western mn
bucksnbears
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I like them too Posco. Start a post on it. How should I title it? " the way guns should be".
swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo
You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Re: Old guns
[Re: seniortrap]
#8012960
12/06/23 06:37 AM
12/06/23 06:37 AM
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williamsburg ks
danny clifton
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When you disassemble old guns for cleaning (pre 1960 or so) you dont find any plastic. You dont find stamped parts. You will find good metal to wood fit. Good trigger pull. If cared for they last a good while. Even the cheap ones.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Old guns
[Re: matt]
#8012983
12/06/23 07:44 AM
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Joined: Dec 2006
PA Venango Co.
Ron Marsh
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I have several to choose from and hunt a lot with the new and the old. Always make at least one day to hunt with an oldie. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2023/12/full-1369-198392-img_6405.jpeg) 35 REM in a 141 My dad had one of these. that picture brought back many memorys. Constantly shot 2" to the right at 100 yd. So what most of the deer were shot at less than 35 yd. My dad had told our neighbor that it was worn out from the boys shooting it so much. the neighbor and I went woodchuck hunting with it. A chuck popped up at 100 yd, I bet the neighbor that I could shoot it in the ear. (won bet) Dad never lived it down.
Last edited by Ron Marsh; 12/06/23 07:46 AM. Reason: grammor
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Re: Old guns
[Re: seniortrap]
#8013074
12/06/23 09:50 AM
12/06/23 09:50 AM
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Posco
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Posco
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I remember when gunshops had a rack or two devoted to just Winchester 94s and old Marlin lever actions. You could pick one up for $200-300. It doesn't seem like it was that long ago. You can't find a Model 94 in halfway decent condition for under a $1,000 nowadays.
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Re: Old guns
[Re: seniortrap]
#8013366
12/06/23 04:37 PM
12/06/23 04:37 PM
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Joined: Feb 2009
Hill City,Mn.
Rally
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I visit Gun shops pretty regular. I find it troubling that many sell nothing but “black guns”, which without fail, the proprietor pushes pretty hard. Often to include nothing but “black” shotguns. I don’t spend much time in that kind of shop. Nothing wrong with “black” guns, own a few, just not my cup of tea. I’ve been in shops that are 90% handgun also, again, not my preference, and there was a period of about five years I hardly touched any of my long guns, hunted everything with handguns. I’ve also been in shops that had sections devoted to the “finer” works ( art really) that started at $5k. Even a few “black” guns in there. My point being, that shops tend to cater to their markets, and promote to the same market. They are more than happy to “order” anything you like or can afford. The “ambiance” in each is different. The salesman doesn’t know if your hunting style or know your preference/ needs in your platform. The person hunting Whitetails in tight cover doesn’t require a 400 Nitro , but not likely the sales clerk that got sent to the gun counter from housewares at Wal Mart knows any difference! Nor will Great Grandpas .35 REM be the best choice for Antelope in NC Montana. There really is no perfect cartridge or platform. Do your homework before you hunt somewhere outside your local haunts.
Keep your boots dry
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Re: Old guns
[Re: Rally]
#8013382
12/06/23 04:46 PM
12/06/23 04:46 PM
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Northern WI
Line Jumper
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I visit Gun shops pretty regular. I find it troubling that many sell nothing but “black guns”, which without fail, the proprietor pushes pretty hard. Often to include nothing but “black” shotguns. I don’t spend much time in that kind of shop. Nothing wrong with “black” guns, own a few, just not my cup of tea. I’ve been in shops that are 90% handgun also, again, not my preference, and there was a period of about five years I hardly touched any of my long guns, hunted everything with handguns. I’ve also been in shops that had sections devoted to the “finer” works ( art really) that started at $5k. Even a few “black” guns in there. My point being, that shops tend to cater to their markets, and promote to the same market. They are more than happy to “order” anything you like or can afford. The “ambiance” in each is different. The salesman doesn’t know if your hunting style or know your preference/ needs in your platform. The person hunting Whitetails in tight cover doesn’t require a 400 Nitro , but not likely the sales clerk that got sent to the gun counter from housewares at Wal Mart knows any difference! Nor will Great Grandpas .35 REM be the best choice for Antelope in NC Montana. There really is no perfect cartridge or platform. Do your homework before you hunt somewhere outside your local haunts. Great post Rally! What fun would it be if there was the perfect caliber and platform? the more the merrier!
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Re: Old guns
[Re: Line Jumper]
#8013387
12/06/23 05:00 PM
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Green County Wisconsin
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30-06 isn't a one perfect but is sure is versatile and way it is still popular 117 years later , 0-350 fairly easily it isn't a one perfect but it covers a huge range and can easily do bear and moose as well.
toss in it was available in millions of surplus guns that could be had a very budget price. ammo and powder were plentiful as surplus
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: Old guns
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#8013397
12/06/23 05:15 PM
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Idaho
bearcat2
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I remember when gunshops had a rack or two devoted to just Winchester 94s and old Marlin lever actions. You could pick one up for $200-300. It doesn't seem like it was that long ago. You can't find a Model 94 in halfway decent condition for under a $1,000 nowadays. Heck, I don't think I'm that old, and it doesn't seem that long ago you could pick up 94s for around $100, maybe not mint but good shooters. And there would be barrels full of Mosin-Nagants for less than that. Biggest problem with the Mosin-Nagants was finding good hunting ammo, the guns were a cheap reliable gun. I've got a Savage 99 in 308 also. Good gun, all my mom has used her whole life. But I'm left handed and that safety on the right side of the lever is a pain to operate for left handers.
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Re: Old guns
[Re: Law Dog]
#8013405
12/06/23 05:25 PM
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Joined: Jul 2017
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PA
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I don’t worry what others are doing I just don’t have the desire to do that. The I don’t do that so it’s not ok for you to do it has plagued our outdoor activities forever we are our own enemies at times. I agree 100 % I hunt and trap to please myself When I am trying to do something I want to do I am totally content with my success For example some years ago I caught my first mink It was in a trail set for coon It was a large male and of course I was happy to have it Over the next 5 to 10 years I caught a few more in sets I had made for other animals It was only because I got the mink trapping bug that I set out to learn how be trap mink When I got the first one in a set I made with the idea that it was a mink set .That was a step forward As I gained success I learned how to make better mink sets by duplicating similar set location and other small details .As time went on I was catching mink every season While I never had a large number per season I was catching them every year I do not remember exactly but I had been able to catch at least one for about 20 consecutive years However I never had more than 5 in one season Five in a season happen 5 times It is oblivious that means I was not a high numbers mink trapper But all most all the mink I caught in the 20 plus yeas where caught in what I called a mink set .I t is only a big deal to me I doubt anyone else cares the slights little bit I am not making it into the mink trapping hall of fame But am pleased that I could do it .
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Re: Old guns
[Re: bearcat2]
#8013452
12/06/23 06:20 PM
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Green County Wisconsin
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[ Heck, I don't think I'm that old, and it doesn't seem that long ago you could pick up 94s for around $100, maybe not mint but good shooters. And there would be barrels full of Mosin-Nagants for less than that. Biggest problem with the Mosin-Nagants was finding good hunting ammo, the guns were a cheap reliable gun.
I've got a Savage 99 in 308 also. Good gun, all my mom has used her whole life. But I'm left handed and that safety on the right side of the lever is a pain to operate for left handers. when marlin closed people got interested in JM marlins when Rem closed people got interested in any Marlin 94s as a affordable lever gun went right with them new ones commanding 900 dollars so the old ones are 650-700 for what would have been a 200 dollar gun 10-15 years ago covid also didn't help man everything got bought , you couldn't even find 30-30 ammo on the shelf for like 2 years no imports from russia in several years now even Mosins are harder to come by my sons friend just sold his not as good mosin for 300 about the only sort of inexpensive thing to buy is old 12ga pumps like Jc higgins and stevens and such and I think the major reason those don't go for more is you can still buy a Maverick 88 for under 200 the Maverick is holding down the craziness of pump guns
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: Old guns
[Re: Crowfoot]
#8015108
12/08/23 09:15 AM
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How many of ya ever heard of an American Sidesnap shotgun ? I have a 12 that I'm afraid to shoot. Pretty sure it has a twist barrel. Here is a pic of one just like mine. Shattuk . Mossberg started out working there. Anybody familiar with these ? Pretty cool action, but a twist barrel far as I can tell. Thanks ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2023/12/full-56047-198929-sidesnap2.jpg)
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Re: Old guns
[Re: seniortrap]
#8015142
12/08/23 09:45 AM
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Posco
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Side-levers. Not the norm but not uncommon. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2023/12/full-50853-198932-screenshot_20231208_083605_google.jpg)
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