Re: What gage wire for coon traps
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You,re asking for trouble if you try to replace chain with wire. I would only use wire to secure trap chain to a wooded drag
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Re: What gage wire for coon traps
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12/11/23 11:26 AM
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Nope not stupid, ask us how we know about wire, lol.
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Re: What gage wire for coon traps
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I learned that very quickly the hard way. Never use wire of any gauge.
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Re: What gage wire for coon traps
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There's a difference between using wire as an attachment and using it as an extension. We used to use nothing but wooden drags for coon, attached with 2 strands of 14 Guage wire. I don't remember ever losing a coon to broken wire used that way. But never use it to lengthen the chain.
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Re: What gage wire for coon traps
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I would not use wire to tie off a live holding device. That said,I use lots of wire for drowners,and to tie off bodygrips and snares set lethal. I always inspect wire for kinks,and change it out or re - inforce it if kinked or old. Old and kinked wire can be re purposed for lots of things on the trapline like tying stuff to the bike or skidoo racks,tying bait,wiring sticks for tee pee sets,or for quick fixes for stuff.
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Re: What gage wire for coon traps
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Invest in 7x19 cable and leave the wire for farmers fixing fences !
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Re: What gage wire for coon traps
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There's a difference between using wire as an attachment and using it as an extension. We used to use nothing but wooden drags for coon, attached with 2 strands of 14 Guage wire. I don't remember ever losing a coon to broken wire used that way. But never use it to lengthen the chain. Yes, wire snugged up tight is a good anchor for coon but a loose wire that coon can twist and work on is asking for trouble. Generally, I avoid the use of wire for anything other than snare support to avoid the temptation of using it for tying off traps.
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Re: What gage wire for coon traps
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Growing up trapping coon we used 14 gauge wire on all our coon traps. Twisted the wire onto the trap ring and then to the wooden stake. Tied to lots of trees, concrete blocks and deadfalls also. On culvert pipes we would drill a hole in the metal pipe and tie off to that. Caught hundreds of coon that way. Didn't know any other way back then. I wouldn't do it now because I have better ways but it works. Must have been lucky not to have them break the wire I guess. We had 24 hour checks. Did have some pull out because of toe chewing till we started using double jaws more and anchoring in the water
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Re: What gage wire for coon traps
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12/14/23 10:18 PM
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For a reference point, heavier is better. If you have tractor supply store nearby go check out their inexpensive wire coon cages. Then build or buy one much heavier than those cheap ones. Then look at this pic of the one and only one I’ve ever bought from there, and the number a coon did on it. It literally ate its way out the back of the trap. Bent the thin aluminum door and the rod assembly. Not sure the gauge of wire but as you can see it ate a hole right out the back. Destroyed this cheap trap. Hope this helps. Jim Also those little cheap coon traps are way too small in my experience, can barely get a decent coon to fit in one. Most will back right out with their big butt holding the door open behind them. You need large traps and long traps to have effective coon cages. These were too small for us (el cheapo store cage traps).
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Re: What gage wire for coon traps
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12/14/23 10:32 PM
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In contrast here is a large cage I bought from someone locally around here. Homemade, thick rod frame, heavy gauge wire and heavy steel foot pan with heavy chain and solid rod assembly. It’s big enough for big bobcats but also makes an awesome coon trap have never needed to rebend or fix this after catches. I bought two of these and they are big and well built. Foxes, cats, coon, it catches them all easily. Go something like this for the versatility in species you can use it on. Make your cages bigger, and use heavier gauge materials so they last after catches. Jim Hope this helps. I’ll never go back to smaller traditional coon cages or buy light wire models again.
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Re: What gage wire for coon traps
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I apologize I misread the initial post. Need my readers early in AM I guess. Not sure why I interpreted the question to be gauge of wire for coon cages. My bad.
Wiring coon traps (footholds) works OK for water sets and drowning rigs, but I’d never do wire for attaching traps on land sets for coon. If I dig around here I probably have some pics of various gauges of wire fails on coon footholds at sets from my earlier years of learning to trap them. I had to learn hard way like most folks back then. Not all wire was made same either.
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