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Favorite next to skin layer for cold? #8025946
12/20/23 01:31 PM
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What is it and why do you choose that material?


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Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Marty] #8025949
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Loose fitting cotton tshirt. Layers is the ticket to warmth and I like the soft cotton against my skin. Also loose fitting because tight clothing just makes me feel cold


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Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Marty] #8025952
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polypropylene tight to the skin for me then layers of wool hybrid fabric.


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Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Marty] #8025953
12/20/23 01:44 PM
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I have heard it said that cotton kills..??


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Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Marty] #8025960
12/20/23 01:49 PM
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Cotton is rotten

For your socks and tee shirt in cold weather

Cotton a absorbes moisture when you sweat....and stays damp.

You need a wick dry garment next to your skin...to stay dry ..in the cold


It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Marty] #8025961
12/20/23 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Marty
I have heard it said that cotton kills..??

How quickly???? I've been wearing it my whole life. If it's no quicker than 75 years I'm not worried. grin
Wife did buy me some polypropylene long underwear last year for Christmas and I only wear it when windchill is below zero if I'm working outside for an extended time. That stuff is warmest long underwear if ever worn.

Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Nessmuck] #8025969
12/20/23 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Nessmuck
Cotton is rotten

For your socks and tee shirt in cold weather

Cotton a absorbes moisture when you sweat....and stays damp.

You need a wick dry garment next to your skin...to stay dry ..in the cold



smile

I like a cotton t shirt when it is hot and humid because it gets soaked and wet clothes wick the heat away from your skin. Water also wicks away body heat....wearing clothes soaked from sweat is very similar to being in water.


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Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Marty] #8025970
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Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Marty] #8025972
12/20/23 01:58 PM
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Tried silk once but I could not concentrate on what I was doing so I gave it up.


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Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Marty] #8025980
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while I would like to try wool I can't justify the cost for how well the poly works

I have several sets of these , they dry out very fast even when you sweat them up.

https://www.farmandfleet.com/produc...pedition-weight-poly-fleece-bottoms.html

https://www.farmandfleet.com/products/g-10814-work-n-sport-mens-30-ecws-poly-fleece-crew.html


yesterday temps in the 20s went from low 20s in the morning to high 20s later my base layer , a crew neck sweatshirt , overalls . fox river boot socks , and a carhart hooded sweatshirt was out outside most of the day working on firewood.
boots and gloves were un-insulated leather

while I was running the saw and loading in the afternoon I actually had a good sweat going it was too windy to take the outer sweatshirt off but sort of warm with it on.

I was moving the entire time so it wasn't like I was sitting on the deer stand

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Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Marty] #8025981
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Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Marty] #8025984
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merino wool blends do a great job and do not stink after being worn multiple days...as far as expense I just purchased 5 known brand merino blend t shirts on ebay for less than $100 total.


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Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Marty] #8025996
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I'm thinking maybe one of Hal's nieces.


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Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Lufkin Trapper] #8026000
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Originally Posted by Lufkin Trapper
I'm thinking maybe one of Hal's nieces.

One?

Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Yes sir] #8026005
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Originally Posted by Marty
I have heard it said that cotton kills..??

How quickly???? I've been wearing it my whole life. If it's no quicker than 75 years I'm not worried. grin
Wife did buy me some polypropylene long underwear last year for Christmas and I only wear it when windchill is below zero if I'm working outside for an extended time. That stuff is warmest long underwear if ever worn.


You been chilled all your life....

Nothing like walking to your ice fishing spot....all lathered up...then sitting there for 4 hours shaking


It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.
Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Marty] #8026009
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Hardly ever truly "cold" down here but my goto is merino wool base when it is 40 or lower

Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: BTLowry] #8026022
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Originally Posted by BTLowry
Hardly ever truly "cold" down here but my goto is merino wool base when it is 40 or lower



Don't evah take advice from a guy in Texas...on how to stay warm in the Wintah...

Only advise on how to stay cool in temps of 105 for weeks on end...


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Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Marty] #8026030
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Depends on what I’m doing. If I’m going to the mailbox and back cotton is fine. If you’re outside your house for a little while and can heat back up when you get cold, cotton is fine. If you’re just going deer hunting for a couple of hours, cotton is fine.

If you plan to hike 2-5 miles hunting cotton will kill you. Cotton get damp with sweat and doesn’t dry out once you stop. Poly or wool is what’s needed to survive. Wool can be soaked and still let water evaporate while retaining your body heat. I wear Merano wool socks even during the summer. Why? It keeps my feet cooler and not damp. All my hunting clothes are a type of moisture wicking material to keep me cool during the warmer periods and warm during the cold periods.

Hunting the PNW the last couple of years it might be in the 20’s in the mornings and 70’s by that afternoon. I’d wear a base layer then pants and a jacket. I could ditch the jacket when it warmed up and roll it up and put it in my vest and hunt the rest of the day in the base layer top. Never got cold or hot, and that climbing in elevation and sitting for periods of time. I can promise you, with cotton I would’ve been miserable. My son didn’t listen and by the time he shot his bird and it was time to come off the mountain he had umpteen layers tied around his waste or said the heck with and buried.

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Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: BTLowry] #8026033
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Originally Posted by BTLowry
Hardly ever truly "cold" down here but my goto is merino wool base when it is 40 or lower


40 degrees is t-shirt weather as long as you're working and not sitting around.

Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Marty] #8026050
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Some of you guys throw the word die around pretty loosely. Maybe some feel better about themselves if they have the latest and greatest. Yeah cotton may not be the greatest cold weather material but ive done a lot of outdoor activities wearing cotton in cold weather without any real problems. Generally take the cold as good or better than anyone I'm hunting with or working with.

Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Marty] #8026052
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polypropylene with wool as a second layer for cold 10F or below. Above 10F and above = Hanes X Temp


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Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Marty] #8026061
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Poly for long johns, It it gets lower than 40 below I will switch to Duo-Fold longies. Cotton layer next to my skin with a wool layer bonded to that. For the upper half I wear a cotton Tee shirt, with a flannel shirt and over that a wool shirt .....maybe . Gotta be at least 20 below before I add the wool shirt


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Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Nessmuck] #8026090
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[quote=Nessmuck]Cotton is rotten

For your socks and tee shirt in cold weather

Cotton a absorbes moisture when you sweat....and stays damp.

You need a wick dry garment next to your skin...to stay dry ..in the cold[/quote
Don't do a lot of sweating if you dress right for the weather. Have work a farm outside in winter most of my life and if you dress right with layers you can take some off and never sweat. Never worked an inside job. Feet sweating? Never had that problem so I don't know. I wear cotton socks and Mickey mouse boots most of the time in winter.


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Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Marty] #8026104
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Wool was used for thousands of years prior to cotton


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Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Marty] #8026117
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cotton shirt then rocky blizzard wear.

Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Marty] #8026123
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Really cold, #1, hands down, merino wool, #2 polypro.. freezing and above anything works unless you get sweated up and then just sit....

Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Marty] #8026172
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Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Marty] #8026174
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Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Marty] #8026181
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Cotton boxers. That's it.

Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: TRADER TUT] #8026182
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Originally Posted by TRADER TUT
Wear what you like. " What ever floats your boat"............ "And keeps it Afloat"..... Tut


Thank you so much.

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Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Marty] #8026208
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To keep warm, polyester or polypropylene. I like the military's ECWCS stuff. Gen III, Levels 1 & 2 are my go-to for outside winter work or hunting. I have some older Gen 2 polypropylene that is really heavy, I don't wear that unless I'll be inactive in sub-freezing weather for extended periods.

To stay cool in warm weather lightweight cotton, long-sleeve, button-down shirts.

Merino wool socks year round, heavier in the winter.


Eh...wot?

Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: white17] #8026215
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Originally Posted by white17
Poly for long johns, It it gets lower than 40 below I will switch to Duo-Fold longies. Cotton layer next to my skin with a wool layer bonded to that. For the upper half I wear a cotton Tee shirt, with a flannel shirt and over that a wool shirt .....maybe . Gotta be at least 20 below before I add the wool shirt


You must have Inuit blood!

Do they still make Duo-Fold long underwear? They used to be my go-to a long time ago. I believe the made a one-piece union suit also.

Liked them so much I earned the moniker Uncle Ubb from my kids (from the Dr. Seuss book Uncle Ubb And His Underwear Too) for wearing them around the house in the evenings.


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Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Marty] #8026216
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Originally Posted by Marty
I have heard it said that cotton kills..??

ABSOLUTELY DOES!!!!!! It will absorb water, then freezes next to your skin as soon as you quit exerting yourself, sucking the heat right out of you. PolyPro or Wool next to the skin.
Many years ago, be\fore the advent of polypro, Joe Namath got famous wearing pantyhose on the field, so I tried it. Works great! Except it's a real hassle to take a whiz, and if they get a runner in just the right (wrong) place, it will try to strangle or chop off Mr. Winkie! So I went with tight's, not as cheap, but so much better. And let the joshing begin.


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Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Marty] #8026233
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Um Alex, I'll take Savells answer

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Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Marty] #8026291
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Merino wool next to skin weight based on temperature and activity level. If it’s really cold and I’m sitting all day heavyweight merino. As a next layer I’m really impressed with some of the new down offerings super light weight. The warm to weight ratio is phenomenal. It can be wadded up in your coat pocket and put on once you reach stand

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If I could afford it a top and bottom made from Alpca. Been using Apaca socks this winter. Feet have not been cold once. Very soft next to the skin.


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Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Savell] #8026313
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Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Marty] #8026550
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Polypropylene socks and polypropylene long johns. They need to fit snug. Cotton socks over the poly socks. When I take my boots off, I can ring water out of the cotton socks, take off the poly socks and my feet will be bone dry. Amazing stuff.
I can't wear wool. It's like wearing a porcupine hide quill side in.

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Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: grumley701] #8026552
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Originally Posted by grumley701
polypropylene tight to the skin for me then layers of wool hybrid fabric.

I don't like it tight.

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I like the merino wool blends, comfortable in a wide range. Kinda like down sleeping bags, never to hot but don’t get cold. That’s where quality really shines.

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Re: Favorite next to skin layer for cold? [Re: Turtledale] #8026628
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Originally Posted by Turtledale
Loose fitting cotton tshirt. Layers is the ticket to warmth and I like the soft cotton against my skin. Also loose fitting because tight clothing just makes me feel cold

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