Re: War on gas
[Re: Trapset]
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all electric makes no sense at all....stay free.
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Re: War on gas
[Re: Gary Benson]
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12/21/23 09:45 AM
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Folks in towns already are dependent for water and electric and gas. Yup, now on to the country folk.
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Re: War on gas
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12/21/23 09:50 AM
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When they came out with this hubbub about banning gas/propane stoves in homes it hit me. This whole electric push is about the ability to control a population. Easy to flip off the juice on non compilers during the next big catastrophe. Propane and CNG can be stored and harder to control. Gas furnace will be next.
Billions ear marked to build government charging stations for electric vehicles. These stations can be switched off the next time the CDC calls for “shelter in place”. Most people would have on average 150 miles or so left in their EV. Then be forced to “shelter in place”, wherever that might be.
Just a thought. exactly how I see it. All these huge power lines transferring power long distances because they have centralized power distribution. Tell me its not cheaper to produce electricity locally than to run it across the country on transmission lines. They are proposeing wind turbines here, yet non of the electricity produced will be used with in 500 miles of here.
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Re: War on gas
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12/21/23 09:57 AM
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Woe unto those who join house to house, field to field, until there be no place ye may be placed alone in the middle of the earth. One of the few verses ai know. That and Genesis 3:16 of course
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Re: War on gas
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12/21/23 10:04 AM
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everyone charging their electric car to drive to work the next day is the grid equivalent of everyone getting an additional 4 ton air conditioner to add to whatever they already have and running it for hours every night.
if you were to power electric cars on wind it would take an X100 increase in the current wind turbines
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: War on gas
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12/21/23 10:28 AM
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CO2 is a good thing. It propagates plant growth and we should have more in the air to get better crops. Alll the coal in the ground was at one point CO2 in the air that got converted into plant matter. People just eat up the bull crap they are being fed by the elites. You can throw all the fertilizer you want into a field. If there is not enough CO2, plants cant grow. Its that simple
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Let's go Brandon
"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
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Re: War on gas
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12/21/23 10:39 AM
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Folks in towns already are dependent for water and electric and gas. If you check your local laws. You will be surprised, that you can’t catch rain water and put in a water well!! They might not be in forcing the law, (now) but it’s there. I’m sure they have laws on the books about generating your own electricity by solar or other means too.
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Re: War on gas
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12/21/23 10:45 AM
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Folks in towns already are dependent for water and electric and gas. If you check your local laws. You will be surprised, that you can’t catch rain water and put in a water well!! They might not be in forcing the law, (now) but it’s there. I’m sure they have laws on the books about generating your own electricity by solar or other means too. .......and burning wood for heat........ probably gardening as well.
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Re: War on gas
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CO2 is a good thing. It propagates plant growth and we should have more in the air to get better crops. Alll the coal in the ground was at one point CO2 in the air that got converted into plant matter. People just eat up the bull crap they are being fed by the elites. You can throw all the fertilizer you want into a field. If there is not enough CO2, plants cant grow. Its that simple You are right about that. The truthful scientists have said that very thing. Plants must have CO2 to survive. Going all electric is impractical and detrimental to all plant life.
The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
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Re: War on gas
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12/21/23 10:51 AM
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You are right about that. The truthful scientists have said that very thing. Plants must have CO2 to survive. Going all electric is impractical and detrimental to all plant life.
fixed that for ya....
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Re: War on gas
[Re: Marty]
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12/21/23 11:03 AM
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You are right about that. The truthful scientists have said that very thing. Plants must have CO2 to survive. Going all electric is impractical and detrimental to all plant life.
fixed that for ya.... Agree.
The difference between animals and humans is that animals would never let the dumbest ones lead the pack.
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Re: War on gas
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12/21/23 08:19 PM
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Woe unto those who join house to house, field to field, until there be no place ye may be placed alone in the middle of the earth. One of the few verses ai know. That and Genesis 3:16 of course
It's like your favorite verse I do believe?
wanna be goat farmer.
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Re: War on gas
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12/21/23 08:23 PM
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I just bought a gas stove because they said not to. We have always had electric.
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Re: War on gas
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12/21/23 08:45 PM
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Agreed, it most certainly is about control.
Food for thought: maybe an argument could be made that if you store fuel, propane or NG at home to support yourself when the supply system turns off, you could put similar effort into storing electricity via UPS battery racks and getting some solar panels to charge them and also run your well pump and your radio when you need it.
If electric car batteries actually last 5-8 years, and you could charge it at home via solar panels, is that not easier than trying to find fuel in a very dangerous environment (the gas station, whose power would likely be out, pumps wont work, delivery of fuel isn't happening).
Point is I think its just as easy to shut off either system. As soon as our diesel-electric locomotives that fuel this country shut off, unless your sitting with a NG well on your property, where will this supply of energy come from once your storage depletes? Can you even store 5-8 years worth of hydrocarbon based energy?
Imagine for a moment that you heat with wood and keep horses, and some government-sponsored business man came through town to sell you on a new automobile (which requires a much more elaborate economic system to support), and assures you the gas stations, mechanics, parts supply, battery supply, tires, etc. will always be running.
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