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Question regarding buckshot #8041043 01/05/24 05:43 PM 01/05/24 05:43 PM
Joined: Jul 2013 Amite county Mississippi Wolfdog91 OP trapper
Wolfdog91 OP trapper Joined: Jul 2013 Amite county Mississippi	Ok so what would make like the perfect buckshot pellet? Something super hard that just penetrates crushes bone ect, or something soft that will deform and expand, or something in the middle ? Or it's it going to depend more in an animal by animal basis ? YouTube expert

Re: Question regarding buckshot [Re: Wolfdog91] #8041052 01/05/24 05:48 PM 01/05/24 05:48 PM
Joined: Sep 2013 Green County Wisconsin G GREENCOUNTYPETE trapper
GREENCOUNTYPETE trapper G Joined: Sep 2013 Green County Wisconsin	anything that made it keep a nice tight pattern the biggest issue isn't terminal performance of 1 ball , when you hit with 5+ it makes an impact different than a single they are also slow enough that they don't expand much Last edited by GREENCOUNTYPETE; 01/05/24 05:49 PM. America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.

Re: Question regarding buckshot [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8041053 01/05/24 05:49 PM 01/05/24 05:49 PM
Joined: Jul 2013 Amite county Mississippi Wolfdog91 OP trapper
Wolfdog91 OP trapper Joined: Jul 2013 Amite county Mississippi	Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE anything that made it keep a nice tight pattern the biggest issue isn't terminal performance of 1 ball , when you hit with 5+ it makes an impact different than a single they are also slow enough that they tear alot And the patterning has a lot to do with the little cup deal that holds the shot in the shell right ? Along with the choke YouTube expert

Re: Question regarding buckshot [Re: Wolfdog91] #8041055 01/05/24 05:55 PM 01/05/24 05:55 PM
Joined: Feb 2020 Indiana P Providence Farm trapper
Providence Farm trapper P Joined: Feb 2020 Indiana	Weight plays a big part in penetration and why tsx turkey loads work in 9 shot. Nit sure what makes them keef such tight patterns besides the chokes made for that shot.

Re: Question regarding buckshot [Re: Wolfdog91] #8041056 01/05/24 05:55 PM 01/05/24 05:55 PM
Joined: Nov 2012 midland, michigan M midlander trapper
midlander trapper M Joined: Nov 2012 midland, michigan	Bubba Rountree has some very informational videos and he is always working and testing buckshot loads...if youre interested .

Re: Question regarding buckshot [Re: Wolfdog91] #8041061 01/05/24 06:01 PM 01/05/24 06:01 PM
Joined: Sep 2013 Green County Wisconsin G GREENCOUNTYPETE trapper
GREENCOUNTYPETE trapper G Joined: Sep 2013 Green County Wisconsin	Originally Posted by Wolfdog91 Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE anything that made it keep a nice tight pattern the biggest issue isn't terminal performance of 1 ball , when you hit with 5+ it makes an impact different than a single they are also slow enough that they tear alot And the patterning has a lot to do with the little cup deal that holds the shot in the shell right ? Along with the choke if it was only so simple it has to do with that but also deformation in the shot as it travels in the collum in the barrel and through the choke there are so many variables basically at 10 everything works the question is what is it doing at 30, 40 , 50 , 55 , 60 , 65 yards and that can vary from round to round considerably. to understand buck shot wound channels a bit here is a video , you can jump forward to 2 minutes and watch till about the 5 minutes mark to see what should make it click. Last edited by GREENCOUNTYPETE; 01/05/24 06:04 PM. America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.

Re: Question regarding buckshot [Re: midlander] #8041064 01/05/24 06:03 PM 01/05/24 06:03 PM
Joined: Sep 2013 Green County Wisconsin G GREENCOUNTYPETE trapper
GREENCOUNTYPETE trapper G Joined: Sep 2013 Green County Wisconsin	Originally Posted by midlander Bubba Rountree has some very informational videos and he is always working and testing buckshot loads...if youre interested . he does have some great videos and gets into the "long range buck shot " about 70 yards America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.

Re: Question regarding buckshot [Re: midlander] #8041067 01/05/24 06:04 PM 01/05/24 06:04 PM
Joined: Jul 2013 Amite county Mississippi Wolfdog91 OP trapper
Wolfdog91 OP trapper Joined: Jul 2013 Amite county Mississippi	Originally Posted by midlander Bubba Rountree has some very informational videos and he is always working and testing buckshot loads...if youre interested . O definitely I've watched a few of his videos regarding powder coated buck shot. Very interesting, I'm pretty clue less when it comes to shot gun stuff but I do enjoy listing to someone who's kinda addied to something like he is with buckshot YouTube expert

Re: Question regarding buckshot [Re: Wolfdog91] #8041072 01/05/24 06:14 PM 01/05/24 06:14 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 williamsburg ks D danny clifton "Grumpy Old Man"
danny clifton "Grumpy Old Man" D Joined: Dec 2006 williamsburg ks	No clue yet on your hardness questions. Take a look at the velocity's you can get with longshot powder. With my mossberg shotgun the cylinder bore no rifling barrel performed poorly at more than ten yards. The regular barrel with a full choke works pretty good. Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)

Re: Question regarding buckshot [Re: Wolfdog91] #8041074 01/05/24 06:17 PM 01/05/24 06:17 PM
Joined: Sep 2013 Green County Wisconsin G GREENCOUNTYPETE trapper
GREENCOUNTYPETE trapper G Joined: Sep 2013 Green County Wisconsin	if you watch that video you posted the picture of with Bubba round tree , about 30 seconds from the end he says do you have to powder coat , NO polished tumbled he gets excellent long range results it is about having the most round , smooth , ball that flies straitest because remember there is no spin stabilization like a patched round ball shot through even a 1:66 barrel part of what makes the TSS tungsten stuff pattern so well so far out is lightweight to diameter and lack of deformation why wads and buffer make a difference it all depends what your going for if you need 10-15 yard self defense ammo basically anything works if you want 3+ pellets in a coyote at 50 yards it gets different America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.

Re: Question regarding buckshot [Re: Wolfdog91] #8041076 01/05/24 06:17 PM 01/05/24 06:17 PM
Joined: Mar 2018 Missouri H HayDay trapper
HayDay trapper H Joined: Mar 2018 Missouri	My thinking on hardness is soft pure lead is going to be easier on the choke.......but may deform a bit. Hard shot will pattern better downrange but a choked barrel may not like it. And as noted a few days back.......and shown on your chart..........#00 buckshot is 0.330" in diameter. Stacked in 3's........3 x 3 = 9 pellets = 1 1/8 oz payload..........those will not fit inside any modern shotshell wad. The thickness of the wad won't allow it. So you have either cut off the wad petals and let the shot ride down the barrel nekked.......or find another way. Another way to retain the 3 x 3 or 3 x 4 = 12 payloads is to buy gas seals and fiber wads from BPI. Yet another way is to stack 0.330" buckshot in 2's in a deeper shot cup. Yet another way is to drop down to smaller buckshot in the range of 0.315. BPI sells some of that and has it in stock and it is nickle plated and hard. It should retain it's shape and pattern pretty well, but being a bit lighter, is going to slow down faster out in the distance. I'm sticking with the 3 x 3 = 9 of #0 buckshot in 0.315" range..........or 2 x 4 = 8 of #00 buckshot in 0.330" range. In both cases, pure lead pellets as my max distance is going to be 15 to 20 yards. Zombies don't represent much of a threat till they get that close. Easy to vote your way into socialism, but impossible to vote your way out of it.

Re: Question regarding buckshot [Re: Wolfdog91] #8041077 01/05/24 06:20 PM 01/05/24 06:20 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 The Hill Country of Texas Leftlane "HOSS"
Leftlane "HOSS" Joined: Dec 2009 The Hill Country of Texas	I keep it handy but don't know much about buckshot. What I can tell you is that the copper plated BB loads with the buffering hold a heck of a pattern and hit like a train. Now you got me wondering how hard or soft copper plated BB loads are... sorry I am no help. ï¿½Whatï¿½s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.ï¿½ Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers

Re: Question regarding buckshot [Re: Wolfdog91] #8041087 01/05/24 06:25 PM 01/05/24 06:25 PM
Joined: Sep 2013 Green County Wisconsin G GREENCOUNTYPETE trapper
GREENCOUNTYPETE trapper G Joined: Sep 2013 Green County Wisconsin	some decent buck shot education America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.

Re: Question regarding buckshot [Re: HayDay] #8041095 01/05/24 06:37 PM 01/05/24 06:37 PM
Joined: Jul 2013 Amite county Mississippi Wolfdog91 OP trapper
Wolfdog91 OP trapper Joined: Jul 2013 Amite county Mississippi	Originally Posted by HayDay My thinking on hardness is soft pure lead is going to be easier on the choke.......but may deform a bit. Hard shot will pattern better downrange but a choked barrel may not like it. And as noted a few days back.......and shown on your chart..........#00 buckshot is 0.330" in diameter. Stacked in 3's........3 x 3 = 9 pellets = 1 1/8 oz payload..........those will not fit inside any modern shotshell wad. The thickness of the wad won't allow it. So you have either cut off the wad petals and let the shot ride down the barrel nekked.......or find another way. Another way to retain the 3 x 3 or 3 x 4 = 12 payloads is to buy gas seals and fiber wads from BPI. Yet another way is to stack 0.330" buckshot in 2's in a deeper shot cup. Yet another way is to drop down to smaller buckshot in the range of 0.315. BPI sells some of that and has it in stock and it is nickle plated and hard. It should retain it's shape and pattern pretty well, but being a bit lighter, is going to slow down faster out in the distance. I'm sticking with the 3 x 3 = 9 of #0 buckshot in 0.315" range..........or 2 x 4 = 8 of #00 buckshot in 0.330" range. In both cases, pure lead pellets as my max distance is going to be 15 to 20 yards. Zombies don't represent much of a threat till they get that close. Interesting, was wondering why I see people tim long their buckshot YouTube expert

Re: Question regarding buckshot [Re: Wolfdog91] #8041114 01/05/24 07:00 PM 01/05/24 07:00 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 williamsburg ks D danny clifton "Grumpy Old Man"
danny clifton "Grumpy Old Man" D Joined: Dec 2006 williamsburg ks	This is what I have been playing with. Cutting petals off the wad. I got more velocity than what’s listed on flight control wad boxes. Buffering the load I got as least as good patterns as what I saw on a YouTube video. I get a chance I will buy a box and compare it. That flight control stuff is pricy. Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)

Re: Question regarding buckshot [Re: Wolfdog91] #8041138 01/05/24 07:29 PM 01/05/24 07:29 PM
Joined: Nov 2013 Arkansas W Wallace trapper
Wallace trapper W Joined: Nov 2013 Arkansas	I shoot alot of stuff with buckshot. It has a majic that can't be explained on paper. I have 3 favorite loads. Winchester 2 3/4 9 pellet 00 buck. I have a shotgun that is a 60 yrd gun with this load. Winchester 2 3/4 16 pellet $1 buck. I have another gun that shoots this load best from a modified choke. The pattern isn't super tight but about 2 feet wide at 40 yrds. My favorite for big varmints is 2 3/4 27 pellet #4 buck. The brand doesn't seem to make as much a difference with this load. It shoots best out of a modified choke. This was my favorite load when running deer dogs was still cool. I've shot more expensive copper and zinc plated pellets, but I can't tell much of a difference in performance on game. Last edited by Wallace; 01/05/24 08:11 PM.

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