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Re: Brother has otter cleaning out his small pond [Re: Jingles] #8043604
01/08/24 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Jingles
A large double door cage trap set in the run worked for me at one lake and a submerged double door cage baited with a fish carcass worked at another.
Maybe I was just lucky but it worked

A set that is becoming quite popular for nuisance otter trapping is having a cage trap hung off a dock/pier/bridge, baited with live fish of whatever is in the pond. the bottom door is closed a screens installed so that the fish cant get out of the trap. Top of the trap is out of the water just enough to keep the bluegills from getting out of the top. Otter dives into the trap and gets caught.

Re: Brother has otter cleaning out his small pond [Re: HayDay] #8043842
01/08/24 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by HayDay
Problem is not the officers, it's the laws they are given to enforce. Re-introduction of otters in MO was a bad idea from the get go.......one guys idea they ran with. Cute little buggers who were going to stay in the creeks and graze on crawfish, bullheads and green sunfish. They didn't and property owners are now stuck with the consequences. A guy spends thousands to build a pond, stocks it with fish, feeds the fish........and then one day sees all that wiped out by a 40 pound weasel.

We knew there was going to be trouble when about 2 years after they cut em loose, aunt and uncle woke one day to find an otter doing laps in their swimming pool. That was half a mile from the nearest creek.

They're a very good fur resource, though.


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Re: Brother has otter cleaning out his small pond [Re: HayDay] #8043865
01/08/24 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by HayDay
Problem is not the officers, it's the laws they are given to enforce. Re-introduction of otters in MO was a bad idea from the get go.......one guys idea they ran with. Cute little buggers who were going to stay in the creeks and graze on crawfish, bullheads and green sunfish. They didn't and property owners are now stuck with the consequences. A guy spends thousands to build a pond, stocks it with fish, feeds the fish........and then one day sees all that wiped out by a 40 pound weasel.

We knew there was going to be trouble when about 2 years after they cut em loose, aunt and uncle woke one day to find an otter doing laps in their swimming pool. That was half a mile from the nearest creek.

That is hilarious as long as not in your pool.

Re: Brother has otter cleaning out his small pond [Re: sportsman94] #8044132
01/08/24 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sportsman94

Lots of people cant seem to help themselves when it comes to trapping. Saw on a georgia trapping fb page a guy posted showing off his first coyote in a cable restraint. Guessing someone tipped him off because its gone now.


Saw a guy talk about this turkey he shot that wouldn’t gobble but went in strut at his hen decoy. Ole boy said it was weird because it didn’t have any spurs and a real thin 4-5” beard. He had several pics of the bird…HEN!! This was on GON. It stayed up about 2 hours, then disappeared. Believe it or not, he came back on a few days later and said the local GW paid him a visit and he learned that bearded hens exist and will strut.
I’d see folks posting about the bobcats they shot from their deer stands on Thanksgiving morning.
One ole boy posted about how empty the lake was the week after Thanksgiving and he had no competition on ducks and they took a 3 man limit. He posted 18 Blue Bills!!!

For those that don’t know, we can’t kill bearded hens.
Duck season is generally closed the week after Thanksgiving for a week or two break.
We’re allowed 1 or maybe 2 Bluebills in our daily limit.
And bobcat season doesn’t start until Dec 1.

Re: Brother has otter cleaning out his small pond [Re: BC-Buck] #8044134
01/08/24 10:10 PM
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A couple years ago I was fishing on the LOZ in the fall. Came around a point and started running a small cove about 8’ deep. Saw the bottom littered with fish. Closer look found way over a 100 dead crappie littering the lake floor. Most showed minimal damage. On the way out, some guy was on his dock with a shotgun. Asked if we had seen any otters, told him no but put two plus two together and got out of the area.


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Re: Brother has otter cleaning out his small pond [Re: BC-Buck] #8044275
01/09/24 01:05 AM
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I’ll never understand “trappers” complaining about otters.
Go catch them for Pete’s sake.
Most, not all, otter hysteria when otters are in ponds is perceived and not real. 90 plus percent of farm ponds don’t get enough fish harvested out of them. There are exceptions. Small, featureless ponds with no cover can be hammered by otters.
The absolute best fishing pond I’ve ever seen (huge bass, crappie, and bluegill and lots of them) I catch 3 to 7 otter every winter out of it.
I’ve never sold a fish for $180 lol.
I’m a landowner also. I’ve got a bait pond 100 yards from my house that I’ve caught 9 otter in the last 7 years. Old pond. Full of green sunfish. Perfect flathead bait.
I like my otter.

Re: Brother has otter cleaning out his small pond [Re: claycreech] #8044310
01/09/24 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by claycreech
I’ll never understand “trappers” complaining about otters.
Go catch them for Pete’s sake.
Most, not all, otter hysteria when otters are in ponds is perceived and not real. 90 plus percent of farm ponds don’t get enough fish harvested out of them. There are exceptions. Small, featureless ponds with no cover can be hammered by otters.
The absolute best fishing pond I’ve ever seen (huge bass, crappie, and bluegill and lots of them) I catch 3 to 7 otter every winter out of it.
I’ve never sold a fish for $180 lol.
I’m a landowner also. I’ve got a bait pond 100 yards from my house that I’ve caught 9 otter in the last 7 years. Old pond. Full of green sunfish. Perfect flathead bait.
I like my otter.

When there's a limit on otter, you can definitely complain about them.

Re: Brother has otter cleaning out his small pond [Re: Crappiekiller] #8044333
01/09/24 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Crappiekiller
A couple years ago I was fishing on the LOZ in the fall. Came around a point and started running a small cove about 8’ deep. Saw the bottom littered with fish. Closer look found way over a 100 dead crappie littering the lake floor. Most showed minimal damage. On the way out, some guy was on his dock with a shotgun. Asked if we had seen any otters, told him no but put two plus two together and got out of the area.

Your taking a chance of hitting a $2000000.00 yacht shooting at LOZ.

Re: Brother has otter cleaning out his small pond [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8044382
01/09/24 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
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12ga 00Buck would work easier, lol. The ones I’ve seen were during daylight just swimming around like they own the place.

Illegal in Georgia to shoot otter unless in a trap....not sure about Missouri

Same here. No body grips over 5" on land.


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Re: Brother has otter cleaning out his small pond [Re: BC-Buck] #8044391
01/09/24 09:16 AM
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Clay raises a good point. I know where there is a small pond near here that has nothing in it but green sunfish. Same with borrow pits full of bullfrogs, bullheads and sunfish and maybe carp. Otters could hammer those and a guy could hammer them and nobody would complain. OTOH, I know of folks who claim they stocked farm ponds and otters wiped them out. In a typical farm pond stocked with bass, bluegill and catfish, is there a size for the bass and catfish above which otters will leave them alone? Or a way to mitigate the damage like using heavy brush piles they can't navigate to kill fish?


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Re: Brother has otter cleaning out his small pond [Re: BC-Buck] #8044401
01/09/24 09:40 AM
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From what I’ve seen otters do here, it’s not the little fish they’re after. Little fish can get away, it’s the larger fish they catch. Ponds that had you catching a 3# bass out of every few casts, now have you catching next to nothing except a few dinks. Yes, they will wipe out a pond and move on to the next. Especially if it’s a pair or more.
If you had a pond you managed 7-8 years to get the size of fish you wanted and then a pair of otters came in and destroyed it, you’d be a little upset. If you have a little bait pond, then I doubt it would phase you much. Look at it like a pack of coyotes in a deer breeding facility, you’d be on the PO’ed side if your fawns all became meals instead of revenue.

Re: Brother has otter cleaning out his small pond [Re: BC-Buck] #8044624
01/09/24 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BC-Buck
Originally Posted by Crappiekiller
A couple years ago I was fishing on the LOZ in the fall. Came around a point and started running a small cove about 8’ deep. Saw the bottom littered with fish. Closer look found way over a 100 dead crappie littering the lake floor. Most showed minimal damage. On the way out, some guy was on his dock with a shotgun. Asked if we had seen any otters, told him no but put two plus two together and got out of the area.

Your taking a chance of hitting a $2000000.00 yacht shooting at LOZ.


Above the 60 mm, the boats are not nearly as big as they are by the (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman). There are very few days I fish that high up that I don’t hear at least one gunshot.


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