Re: CABLE RESTRAINTS
[Re: Furvor]
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01/08/24 01:42 PM
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I caught 2 coyotes the other day In my CRs One was still there the other one popped the BAD. It's back to that BAD that Isn't compatible to 1X19 X 3/32 cable. The next CRs I buy are going to have the J hook BADs
And yes the swivel needs to be as close to the lock as possible.
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Re: CABLE RESTRAINTS
[Re: Furvor]
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01/08/24 04:38 PM
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WE don't care about coyotes and foxes It's the hunting dogs that we care about. You will NEVER see a lethal snare In WI. So live with It.
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Re: CABLE RESTRAINTS
[Re: The Beav]
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01/08/24 05:02 PM
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WE don't care about coyotes and foxes It's the hunting dogs that we care about. You will NEVER see a lethal snare In WI. So live with It. OK tell me why Montana and Idaho have no problems.
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Re: CABLE RESTRAINTS
[Re: Furvor]
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01/08/24 06:51 PM
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Look at the land mass and the population. We have 1000s of coon hunters we have 1000s of hound hunters we also have 1000s of up land game bird hunters not to mention all the water fowl hunters. And they are all out there during our trapping season Oh wait what about all the non hunting type dogs that are also out there.
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Re: CABLE RESTRAINTS
[Re: Guss]
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01/08/24 08:06 PM
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WE don't care about coyotes and foxes It's the hunting dogs that we care about. You will NEVER see a lethal snare In WI. So live with It. OK tell me why Montana and Idaho have no problems. Free roaming dogs probably don't last too long in those states.
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Re: CABLE RESTRAINTS
[Re: Furvor]
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01/08/24 11:21 PM
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Being a former houndman, as well as a trapper, to me it's just common sense where dogs may be encountered to use free hanging snares. And that is anywhere that dogs are legally used for hunting. As far as snares go, free hanging snares are generally fairly safe with dogs that are used to being chained or on a leash, but ram power snares are unforgiving. Even with a coil kill spring with the snare most chain/leash broke dogs will not fight hard enough to choke down in my experienced, over a day or two thus giving the handle a good chance to locate them alive.
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Re: CABLE RESTRAINTS
[Re: bctomcat]
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01/09/24 12:59 AM
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Being a former houndman, as well as a trapper, to me it's just common sense where dogs may be encountered to use free hanging snares. And that is anywhere that dogs are legally used for hunting. As far as snares go, free hanging snares are generally fairly safe with dogs that are used to being chained or on a leash, but ram power snares are unforgiving. Even with a coil kill spring with the snare most chain/leash broke dogs will not fight hard enough to choke down in my experienced, over a day or two thus giving the handle a good chance to locate them alive. This right here. As a houndman I can attest to the fact that I have had multiple dogs caught in snares and all were fine. Especially with all the tracking collars worn on hounds today, plus they are usually chain broke, chances are they will be perfectly fine in a normal snare. In a power ram, not so much. And there are issues in Idaho and Montana between trappers using snares and houndmen. Frankly the wolves being introduced did wonders for the trapper/houndman relations. The houndhunters want the wolves gone so rather than fight with the trappers, they support them. To the extent of even supporting tools like snares. Use a little common sense with where you set your snares, and what type. You're not going to avoid all the houndmen, particularly if you are trying to trap the same animals they are trying to hunt (bobcat, coon, etc.) but you can avoid almost all the college kids and granola eaters out taking Fido for a walk. And if you use free hanging snares without kill springs, instead of power rams in any place where there is any possibility of encountering hounds, bird dogs, etc. You will avoid a lot of issues.
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Re: CABLE RESTRAINTS
[Re: Guss]
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01/09/24 04:15 AM
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The hunters with dog better watch out out for wolves!!! Guss, owners get compensated for injury or death of a dog involving a confirmed wolf attach in Wisconsin.
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Re: CABLE RESTRAINTS
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01/09/24 10:58 AM
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The hunters with dog better watch out out for wolves!!! Guss, owners get compensated for injury or death of a dog involving a confirmed wolf attach in Wisconsin. I know that the DNR SPENDING ALOT OF MONEY.
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Re: CABLE RESTRAINTS
[Re: Furvor]
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01/09/24 11:11 AM
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Like I said WI will never allow a lethel type snare In WI. so The CR is just another tool and If used right will catch all the coyotes you can skin. Yes I would rather have a dead coyote In a snare and yes we are limited to where we can hang them. But you just have to learn to play the cards you were dealt. It was 2 years ago when coyotes had some value and I caught 38 coyotes In CRs about 37 more then I wanted. LOL
This year I'm just doing some friends a favor and hanging a few CRs for coyote control.
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Re: CABLE RESTRAINTS
[Re: Furvor]
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01/09/24 03:08 PM
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I can't say I've never had one back out. But It's probably pretty rare.
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Re: CABLE RESTRAINTS
[Re: Guss]
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01/09/24 04:14 PM
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I never use them to trap with I would think since the LOCK relaxes the animal can back out of the CR.. They can back out if they feel the snare and stop before the snare "fires". Once an animal pulls tight on a snare it's not getting back out. Occasionally a coon or beaver might be able to throw a snare off but I've never seen it. Usually if they've fought the snare at all a kink forms within a quarter inch of the lock Worse thing that will happen for you with a CR is you get water headed coyotes.
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