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Re: Cwd hoax [Re: WI Outdoors] #8056308
01/21/24 12:47 PM
01/21/24 12:47 PM
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Yup

Re: Cwd hoax [Re: WI Outdoors] #8056316
01/21/24 12:55 PM
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I eat venison often and I've never had a deer tested and don't plan on it. If I shoot one that looks sick I'll leave it lay. There's no use chancing it for 40 to 60 pounds of meat. I also don't trust the DNR or the test results that are put in their hands. What they did to the deer herd when this first was discovered was text book on how not to handle it. Once it's here and it probably always has been, it's not going away. They tried to shoot all the deer off which unless you're an idiot you know it's not possible. To me it was a typical don't let a crisis go to waste moment $$$. And the WI DNR wonders why a large percentage of actual sportsman don't trust them.

Re: Cwd hoax [Re: Badger23] #8056329
01/21/24 01:17 PM
01/21/24 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Badger23
I eat venison often and I've never had a deer tested and don't plan on it. If I shoot one that looks sick I'll leave it lay. There's no use chancing it for 40 to 60 pounds of meat. I also don't trust the DNR or the test results that are put in their hands. What they did to the deer herd when this first was discovered was text book on how not to handle it. Once it's here and it probably always has been, it's not going away. They tried to shoot all the deer off which unless you're an idiot you know it's not possible. To me it was a typical don't let a crisis go to waste moment $$$. And the WI DNR wonders why a large percentage of actual sportsman don't trust them.

Yep. It's why I never participate in the surveys they send me. They can stick it.

Re: Cwd hoax [Re: WI Outdoors] #8056338
01/21/24 01:28 PM
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Swamp how would that be handled if you harvested a deer and had it tested comes back positive isn’t that wanton waste of wildlife and say you kill a deer you know is sick we’re supposed to tag immediately but personally I’d let it lay than waste the tag because tags aren’t cheap but if you could take a known sick animal to get it tested they should issue a free tag , what is your take since you are a retired GW

Re: Cwd hoax [Re: WI Outdoors] #8056367
01/21/24 02:08 PM
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In WI you get a free tag If your deer tests positive.


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Re: Cwd hoax [Re: WI Outdoors] #8056416
01/21/24 03:12 PM
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Aw come on you know the Gov will come out with a mandatory vaccine for all deer hunters in order to purchase a license.


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Re: Cwd hoax [Re: WI Outdoors] #8056421
01/21/24 03:22 PM
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Beav that may be but how long does it take for the test results to come back? Say you had one tested during gun season it's doubtful the results will be back before the end of season. Will they give you 2 buck tags for the following years gun season? Of course they won't.
I'm in your canp as far as never having one tested. I'm putting out a very likely scenario that could happen.

Re: Cwd hoax [Re: WI Outdoors] #8056436
01/21/24 03:41 PM
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I agree I wouldn’t do it either . The thing I know about Illinois is they want you to fill out surveys on game , etc that are seen or trapped but never a nickels compensation they think my time is free

Re: Cwd hoax [Re: WI Outdoors] #8056462
01/21/24 04:22 PM
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CWD = Chicken little syndrome same thing. The great scare for control and money sounds similar to covid.

Re: Cwd hoax [Re: WI Outdoors] #8056500
01/21/24 05:21 PM
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The whole CWD thing is a hoax. Prions do not exist as the video says. It’s all about the money.


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Re: Cwd hoax [Re: jalstat] #8056508
01/21/24 05:31 PM
01/21/24 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jalstat
Swamp how would that be handled if you harvested a deer and had it tested comes back positive isn’t that wanton waste of wildlife and say you kill a deer you know is sick we’re supposed to tag immediately but personally I’d let it lay than waste the tag because tags aren’t cheap but if you could take a known sick animal to get it tested they should issue a free tag , what is your take since you are a retired GW

jalstat,
Reading some of the comments on this thread almost makes me laugh...if it wasn't a potentially very serious issue.

State wildlife agencies are serious about this. But, there is a lag time to get test results. Here in Georgia, all samples got to University of Ga for testing. Wanton waste violation for a visibly sick deer? I can't speak for Illinois...Ga = NO! Leave it lay....go kill another. I've checked many hunter- killed deer that had various ailments from EHD, injuries, mange, etc. I told em to not tag...go discard that nasty-looking thing.

Many on here, that deer hunt and consume venison, need to slow down and read all they can about CWD.

Here are a few facts:
A) A deer may be CWD positive for several years and exhibit zero sign it is positive. Perfectly healthy-looking.
B) No deer to human jump has been 100% proven...yet. Close, but not 100% proven. See info about lab monkeys and folks that ate version at a wild game dinner.
C) Most state's DNR don't have any worthwhile plan once a positive deer is located. Most are just gonna take a few more deer from the general area, test em and then just monitor. Agencies are trying all kinds of strategies with no effective containment results.
D) There is NO stopping it in wild deer. If you don’t have positive deer near you....you will. Ex) Prions can remain viable on urinated grass for a year or more. Research has shown CWD movement in wild deer to be 1.5 miles per year. Find your closest CWD positive county and see about how long it'll be for you....without deer farmers bringing it closer to you.
E) Federal & state money is being poured into this, but what better thing to spend our tax money on. I'd rather put $$ in white-tailed deer than other stuff the government spends our money on.
F) If you bring venison home and feed your family and one or more of them die....you can look back at this thread and re-read some of the idiocies posted here and think on it a while.

And one other interesting fact: there is something in a cat's belly/digestive tract that neutralizes the prions. Bobcats, cougars, lynx, and likely housecats too....

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Re: Cwd hoax [Re: WI Outdoors] #8056517
01/21/24 05:40 PM
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Wolf did you watch the video? I believe it’s all about $ like I said before.


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Re: Cwd hoax [Re: Kevin Stake] #8056524
01/21/24 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin Stake
Wolf did you watch the video? I believe it’s all about $ like I said before.

Yes...I watched it. There are many such videos like that one. It's a hellavu chance to take.


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Re: Cwd hoax [Re: WI Outdoors] #8056529
01/21/24 05:55 PM
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He drank the cool aid Kevin .

Re: Cwd hoax [Re: Golf ball] #8056548
01/21/24 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Golf ball
He drank the cool aid Kevin .

Maybe...but I hope you don't eat the infected meat and die?


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Re: Cwd hoax [Re: WI Outdoors] #8056550
01/21/24 06:10 PM
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Ty SW for the information

Re: Cwd hoax [Re: WI Outdoors] #8056563
01/21/24 06:26 PM
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SW I get it you went to all the meetings , saw all the evidence they wanted you to see . You were on the payroll so you paid attention. Just remember Fouchi said he was “ following the science “ too .

Re: Cwd hoax [Re: WI Outdoors] #8056580
01/21/24 06:43 PM
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I do know people that have eaten deer that tested positive for CWD over 5 years ago. All still alive. All part of the plan to stop hunting. Just like reinstating the wolves. No elk or deer stop the hunting seasons. Nothing to hunt you don’t need a gun. JMO.


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Re: Cwd hoax [Re: Squash] #8056586
01/21/24 06:48 PM
01/21/24 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Squash
The solution is to come up with a vaccine that really isn’t a vaccine for cwd, and then mandate that all that consume venison get it or you can no longer hunt.

No. They will legislate the elimination of guns and ammunition so that no one can ever kill a deer again.
A side benefit will be that all criminals will no longer kill people.

Re: Cwd hoax [Re: WI Outdoors] #8056598
01/21/24 06:57 PM
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Cwd topic came to life and blew up here in WI in the late 90's. At that time they released info saying it was in the elk in Colorado for the previous 50 years. It's real but blown out of proportion, just like covid.

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