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An outdoor boiler is rather intimidating but there’s not much to them really my Central Boiler came with a 25 year warranty I got mine before the gas burner was being pushed it smokes at start up and shut down but nothing crazy if you keep the temperature up. Mine has been running 14-16 hours on a fill if I let it go that long.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Always thought a version of the wood chunker this guy built to use for his wood gasifiers would work to chunk up wood to the point it could be handled by mechanical means. Kind of a hybrid between firewood and pellets. Big pellets about the size of a softball. Store them in something like small grain bin or corn crib, then use an auger to feed and transport them to the furnace.
In later versions, he has a gravity feed into the chunker. Could further automate it using a conveyor to elevate chunks to storage bin. Small grove of fast growing black locust would provide a lot of high density, high btu fuel of right size to feed into the chunker.
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We burned wood in my dad's shop. My brothers burned wood in the house they rented.My in-laws burned wood until 12 years ago,,When we first moved to our place in Idaho we had wood and pellet stoves We burned 1 cord and a pallet and 1/2 of pellets, . purchased todays dollars about $550 on the low end.
I told my wife we were done with wood. I blown in more insulation, the house got new windows, last year our gas hot water and furnace was a total of $600. I just know of all the wasted time feeding the pellet and wood stove,,, Toos in a chainsaw a splitter of choice, trailer, damage to the truck and the wifes carpet, no thank you
I enjoy a nice fire ,,And maybe a small cabin but heating my house,, its a no go
We burned wood in my dad's shop. My brothers burned wood in the house they rented.My in-laws burned wood until 12 years ago,,When we first moved to our place in Idaho we had wood and pellet stoves We burned 1 cord and a pallet and 1/2 of pellets, . purchased todays dollars about $550 on the low end.
I told my wife we were done with wood. I blown in more insulation, the house got new windows, last year our gas hot water and furnace was a total of $600. I just know of all the wasted time feeding the pellet and wood stove,,, Toos in a chainsaw a splitter of choice, trailer, damage to the truck and the wifes carpet, no thank you
I enjoy a nice fire ,,And maybe a small cabin but heating my house,, its a no go
I always enjoyed cutting splitting and stacking firewood.
downside of an outdoor boiler is when the power goes out you have no heat, you need electricity for it to heat your house. Very inefficient way to heat with wood, you'll use alot more wood than other ways of burning with wood.
downside of an outdoor boiler is when the power goes out you have no heat, you need electricity for it to heat your house. Very inefficient way to heat with wood, you'll use alot more wood than other ways of burning with wood.
That's what back up generators are for. I can tell you I would have to have more than one wood burner in the house running to heat my big old farm house evenly. The added cost to put in new pipe in the 2 story house and dedicated space you only use for the wood stove just won't work in my old house lay out.
The lack of smoke, mess, and fire hazard, unlimited hot water, and not having to cut and split wood so darn small as to fit in a wood stove more than off set the added wood I use. Especially if you consider I burnt nothing but green pine 2.5 months this year from 4 pine trees that blew down. Never would have burned that in the house and would have spent more time cutting it up and tending to the brush pile fire than I did cutting it and burning it for heat. Also use some green cherry from a blow down .
Everything had trade offs so far my burner has paid for it's self and saved me 10k in addition to in lp going dron my numbers from back before I put it in. Granted if I had a modern house with new windows and not a 3k sq foot farm house that has had at least 4 additions over the years it would not have made financial since to pay 13k to get and have the unit put in. But that is also not counting I have a unit large enough and with hook ups to heat another building as well as my home. I just have not done that yet. That adds to the benefits of the unit as well.
downside of an outdoor boiler is when the power goes out you have no heat, you need electricity for it to heat your house. Very inefficient way to heat with wood, you'll use alot more wood than other ways of burning with wood.
That's what back up generators are for. I can tell you I would have to have more than one wood burner in the house running to heat my big old farm house evenly. The added cost to put in new pipe in the 2 story house and dedicated space you only use for the wood stove just won't work in my old house lay out.
The lack of smoke, mess, and fire hazard, unlimited hot water, and not having to cut and split wood so darn small as to fit in a wood stove more than off set the added wood I use. Especially if you consider I burnt nothing but green pine 2.5 months this year from 4 pine trees that blew down. Never would have burned that in the house and would have spent more time cutting it up and tending to the brush pile fire than I did cutting it and burning it for heat. Also use some green cherry from a blow down .
Everything had trade offs so far my burner has paid for it's self and saved me 10k in addition to in lp going dron my numbers from back before I put it in. Granted if I had a modern house with new windows and not a 3k sq foot farm house that has had at least 4 additions over the years it would not have made financial since to pay 13k to get and have the unit put in. But that is also not counting I have a unit large enough and with hook ups to heat another building as well as my home. I just have not done that yet. That adds to the benefits of the unit as well.
Now you have to add the cost of a generator. I’ve seen some outdoor stoves that look like nice setups but seems the majority just backed the truck up and dumped it at the most convenient spot in the yard and called it good then start dumping wood randomly all around it. To the OP I would go with a wood stove. My son has a pellet stove and even though he likes it he says the pellets can be costly. If you have resources to get your own firewood that is going to be your best bet and they sure add a nice touch to the inside of a house.
I favor the wood boiler ! But then I have quality hardwoods absolutely surrounding me . Sure is a bonus heating multiple buildings and all my domestic hot water from one stove.
No bugs , bark, dirt , or fire risk in the house. Probably the best investment I ever made !
Either that , or taking the time to find my wife a second job !
It’s a lazy man who can’t find his wife a second job !
As for the "backup" generator, I'd venture to guess most guys already own one for one reason or another, so no big deal or expense there.
Agreed not a big power draw from the pumps on a boiler. Just the radiant heat from my furnace element heats the house most of the day without the blower going every 10 minutes. Granted I don’t have a big old house but the boiler keeps things warm. With just heating the house now it’s way more efficient than heating a second poorly insulated building so my wood consumption went way down now. I fill the boiler 2X a day and never need to play catch up because of a temperature drop from low wood in the hopper.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Cant beat wood heat as far as I’m concerned. To me nothing else feels like it. I found a cast iron skillet that drops right into my top loaders lid hole, the pan taper stops pan when bottom is an inch or two below stove top. . Been cooking on it a bit this winter.
Been using a outside boiler for over 20 years Heatmore , no major problems ,, bought a generator for just in case havent needed it yet for the boiler but use it many other places , as far as wood goes trees are growin and dyeing here faster than i can clean them up will never run out of fuel , already own tractors ,, may get to old to put the fuel in eventually . Do not split anything unless it wont fit in the door of the stove . Heats the house put in cast iron radiators at the start also all hot domestic hot water sept thru may ,, i love no fuel bills I have to ask everyone says oh no Whats your backup ,, my question is allways the Whats your backup most people heat with indoor furnaces and assume wood heat is unreliable when their system runs on electric from the grid
I had a pellet stove might just as well burn a candle for heat, and pellets around $250-$300 / ton, you can buy a lot of firewood for that. Wood stove works when the power is off, and you can cook on it as well. My parents lived to be in their late 80’s and had no problem feeding the wood stove and furnace.
And as others have said, there is no substitute for radiant heat from a wood stove on a cold winters day.
I am sitting in front of mine watching the fire and absorbing the heat. The thermometer is sitting right on minus 50 at the moment. Supposed to get cold tonight though
I am sitting in front of mine watching the fire and absorbing the heat. The thermometer is sitting right on minus 50 at the moment. Supposed to get cold tonight though
Dang! Did ya haul plenty of wood inside Ken?
Its been +33-+35 last few days here. I hate loosing snow this time of year. I switched from hard wood back to cottonwood in the stove for the warm up.
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