Re: Indians vs Dairy Farmers
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pretty mush says dairy foods are racist, and should not be in federal food guidelines
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Re: Indians vs Dairy Farmers
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I'm not a subscriber and I could see it.? . Maybe I used up all of my “free” articles already.
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Re: Indians vs Dairy Farmers
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pretty mush says dairy foods are racist, and should not be in federal food guidelines Wow
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Re: Indians vs Dairy Farmers
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A brick of cheese is a cultural thing here on many reservations it’s so popular they even make jokes about it. Commodity distribution is a way of life and there are distribution centers to hand the stuff out it’s free so it’s popular around here. It’s a bigger selection than you might imagine.
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Re: Indians vs Dairy Farmers
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I think that the point is that many natives are lactose intolerant. Seems to me if they want the government to give out the original natives diet it would be heavy on lean meats, and fish,, and not so much on grains. The reason it's hard to get good nutrition is the lack of meat and fish, I bet.
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Re: Indians vs Dairy Farmers
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Commodities are a slow poison really not much is healthy about a lot of it, lots of salt and starchy options, its popular because it’s free and the cheese can be readily sold for cash, so cheese is not one of the worse options to choose from. From running the jail here for many years I was able to witness first had some of the eating habits shared by regional people of the nearby reservations.
On Mac and cheese day and with other meals it was not uncommon to see the entire tray cover with salt and pepper to point it blackened the meal. We had a youth at the Academy that salt and peppered those salty sausage breakfast links without batting an eye. My thought was this was a way to give flavor to a bland and starchy meal then it became an unhealthy habit.
If a business qualifies as a nonprofit they can also receive USDA commodity shipments for free. Worked at a youth academy years ago the back half was considered nonprofit while the management part was for profit. I thought that was a joke the owner just got richer from it.
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Re: Indians vs Dairy Farmers
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I think that the point is that many natives are lactose intolerant. Seems to me if they want the government to give out the original natives diet it would be heavy on lean meats, and fish,, and not so much on grains. The reason it's hard to get good nutrition is the lack of meat and fish, I bet.
Plus diabetes and heart disease is a major problem on the reservations
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Re: Indians vs Dairy Farmers
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I think that the point is that many natives are lactose intolerant. Seems to me if they want the government to give out the original natives diet it would be heavy on lean meats, and fish,, and not so much on grains. The reason it's hard to get good nutrition is the lack of meat and fish, I bet.
Plus diabetes and heart disease is a major problem on the reservations And drugs can be added to the list.
Must be nice to eat ice cream as fast as you want and not have to worry about brain freeze.
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Re: Indians vs Dairy Farmers
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I am from the government and I am here to help you!
Regan wasn't wrong , people just had no idea that the dietary suggestions have more to do with cheap calories than good for you.
first tell everyone how cheap carbs are great for them , then provide primarily cheap carbs as part of every government sponsored food program.
set the standard , then meet the standard
the goal isn't to get you to 90 it is to get most of you to 66 1/2 so you have paid in for 47 years to a program you got 9-15 payments out of .
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Re: Indians vs Dairy Farmers
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I really think a person's health is based more on genetics than their eating habits. My grandmother has ate pretty much the same diet for as long as I have known her.
Breakfast: 3 cups of coffee with cream and sugar. 1 Jelly Donut.
Lunch: Sandwich (usually ham and cheese with mayonnaise). 3 servings of Lays potato chips 12oz coke
4pm: A couple cookies. Another coke, or a cup of coffee.
Supper: Varies, but usually high in carbs and fat. Like.. fried meat, potatoes, veggie. Or pasta with garlic bread. Another coke.
Bedtime. 3 servings of Ice cream Another coke.
My grandma is 84 years old, 120lbs soaking wet, smoked ciggs all her life up until about 5 years ago, and is healthier than every one of her children and most of her grandkids too, lol. She has a high metabolism, and even when sitting down is never truly still, always fidgety. My grandpa had a low metabolism, he could look at a bowl of ice cream and gain weight. He's been gone over a decade now. Unfortunately, most all of the family inherited his genetics and not Grandma's. If scientists really wanted to boost longevity, they would be researching ways to permanently boost people's metabolisms.
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Re: Indians vs Dairy Farmers
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I'm not a subscriber and I could see it.? . Maybe I used up all of my “free” articles already. Just delete the cookies on your computer, from that or any other website, that tells you have used up your free articles and you can keep reading them for free. Keith
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Re: Indians vs Dairy Farmers
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I really think a person's health is based more on genetics than their eating habits. My grandmother has ate pretty much the same diet for as long as I have known her.
Breakfast: 3 cups of coffee with cream and sugar. 1 Jelly Donut.
Lunch: Sandwich (usually ham and cheese with mayonnaise). 3 servings of Lays potato chips 12oz coke
4pm: A couple cookies. Another coke, or a cup of coffee.
Supper: Varies, but usually high in carbs and fat. Like.. fried meat, potatoes, veggie. Or pasta with garlic bread. Another coke.
Bedtime. 3 servings of Ice cream Another coke.
My grandma is 84 years old, 120lbs soaking wet, smoked ciggs all her life up until about 5 years ago, and is healthier than every one of her children and most of her grandkids too, lol. She has a high metabolism, and even when sitting down is never truly still, always fidgety. My grandpa had a low metabolism, he could look at a bowl of ice cream and gain weight. He's been gone over a decade now. Unfortunately, most all of the family inherited his genetics and not Grandma's. If scientists really wanted to boost longevity, they would be researching ways to permanently boost people's metabolisms.
I agree a lot of it is genetic. It also makes a difference if you are very consistent, your body adjusts. With all that Coke, there will be no need to embalm her when the time comes.
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Re: Indians vs Dairy Farmers
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There is one particilar beverage that is responsible for more devastation among native Americans than anything else. And it isn't milk.
These folks really should be targeting more important things.
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Re: Indians vs Dairy Farmers
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There is one particilar beverage that is responsible for more devastation among native Americans than anything else. And it isn't milk.
These folks really should be targeting more important things. No truer words have been spoken, fetal alcohol rates are very high compared to the national average of 3% some places as high as 25% was reported back when I was at a training.
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