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Re: Sleepy creek? [Re: That.darn.coon] #8071183
02/07/24 02:21 PM
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I think longspring fans might have better luck lobbying Duke or Bridger to update their longspring line & make a higher quality trap at a higher price point than their "standard" longsprings. It doesn't seem like it would take much to incorporate some of the improvements that we have seen in coil springs and put them in longsprings. Wide cast jaws, better pans & dogs, & or dogless versions. They wouldn't be made in the USA, but it's very difficult to do that and keep prices remotely competitive. They could still be good traps.

Re: Sleepy creek? [Re: That.darn.coon] #8071191
02/07/24 02:42 PM
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If they were as popular as people let on they would still be in production today. I'm not saying they aren't good traps but they must not of sold really well or they would of been making plenty of money to keep producing them. Other trap manufactures are still in production.

Re: Sleepy creek? [Re: That.darn.coon] #8071195
02/07/24 02:55 PM
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They are as good as ppl say, it's the problem of sourcing usa steel. The traps are tanks i use them over any mb550. My second choice is mbs, I have 1.5 dz #3 with 2 coils I use now for yotesand 6 dedicated to beaver. Then 2 dz 1.5 coils. And a dz each in the box new old stock. So yes I'd buy more

Re: Sleepy creek? [Re: Seth Doty] #8071202
02/07/24 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Seth Doty
I think longspring fans might have better luck lobbying Duke or Bridger to update their longspring line & make a higher quality trap at a higher price point than their "standard" longsprings. It doesn't seem like it would take much to incorporate some of the improvements that we have seen in coil springs and put them in longsprings. Wide cast jaws, better pans & dogs, & or dogless versions. They wouldn't be made in the USA, but it's very difficult to do that and keep prices remotely competitive. They could still be good traps.



Spot on!


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Re: Sleepy creek? [Re: That.darn.coon] #8071239
02/07/24 04:47 PM
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I picked up a couple of SC #3 dbl coils at the lima coonchase last year. Wish the guy would have had more, i like them and the price was insane.

Re: Sleepy creek? [Re: The hammer] #8071242
02/07/24 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by The hammer
Originally Posted by KYBOY
Steel has went up considerably the last few years... Sheets of plate that we payed $100 for a few years ago are now $200.. Expanded metal that was $40-$50 a sheet is not $120. Steel prices have went up by 100% or more in many cases...

Agreed! Steel is very high specifically for the good stuff. Not to mention if your not close to a supplier the shipping on a sheet of steel can cost as much or more then the sheet itself.

Yea, whenever I buy stuff like 4140,h13 and so on I comb ebay for deals.. A lot of places have minimum orders now.. I use to order 1" x 2" square bar 1060 from a place in Mi.. Now the shipping is as much as one piece of the steel.. Its insane now


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Re: Sleepy creek? [Re: That.darn.coon] #8071282
02/07/24 05:51 PM
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On the Southern Snare website it lists Sleepy Creek traps. Some are in stock. I sent them a message asking if they really have them.


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Re: Sleepy creek? [Re: That.darn.coon] #8071296
02/07/24 06:10 PM
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JMO, but I think it's missing a bet to not at least try to scrounge up enough steel to do a limited run of what is in most demand and try to sell it at a premium. It might just garner enough capital to get a few things into production.

But I'm not a numbers guy and maybe there's just not enough demand out there to make it work.


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Re: Sleepy creek? [Re: ~ADC~] #8071354
02/07/24 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
If they were as popular as people let on they would still be in production today. I'm not saying they aren't good traps but they must not of sold really well or they would of been making plenty of money to keep producing them. Other trap manufactures are still in production.


What other trap manufacturers in the U.S are still making traps ? All that was left was Sleepy creek, BMI, and Oneida Victor. There is Minnesota brand , but I I heard some of the parts for their traps are foreign made and assembled here.

Re: Sleepy creek? [Re: That.darn.coon] #8071356
02/07/24 07:49 PM
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If Brian hasn’t built any traps since he bought sleepy creek, I’d worry a bit about long springs. Pete Askin used to tell me the troubles that Woodstream had with getting the temper right on the springs. Oven temps have to be precise and the quenching the same. Anyone can build coilsprings, but longs are a different critter to work with. JFYI!


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Re: Sleepy creek? [Re: DanN] #8071365
02/07/24 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DanN
Originally Posted by ~ADC~
If they were as popular as people let on they would still be in production today. I'm not saying they aren't good traps but they must not of sold really well or they would of been making plenty of money to keep producing them. Other trap manufactures are still in production.


What other trap manufacturers in the U.S are still making traps ? All that was left was Sleepy creek, BMI, and Oneida Victor. There is Minnesota brand , but I I heard some of the parts for their traps are foreign made and assembled here.


I believe the entire line of NO BS Traps are USA made.


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Re: Sleepy creek? [Re: Turtledale] #8071371
02/07/24 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Turtledale
Steel prices may never come down. This may be it. I really wonder if sleepy creeks, Victors, bmis will ever be made again.

Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
I feel like the problem is everyone wants some SC traps but there wont be continued demand if they can't keep the prices down. I know I want $300 worth of them but then I'm probably going to be satisifed for years. I don't know what the logistics would look like If they set up and produce some to fill the initial demand but demand doesn't continue. There's already barns full of old traps, sale sites full of old traps, I sure do want some SC long springs but realistically I dont NEED them and I probably wouldn't make many repeat orders. Especially with fur prices in the garbage.


Maybe you could share some of these "sites full of old traps" for everyone. Seems to be a pretty high demand on this site. Thank you


Check any local auction places, Facebook marketplace or Craigslist.

Re: Sleepy creek? [Re: That.darn.coon] #8071392
02/07/24 08:27 PM
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I spoke to them at southern snares little over a week ago. They called me back after I emailed them. THEY SAID STEEL PRICES WERE THE PROBLEM AT THIS TIME. Didn't mean to capitolize that statement LOL Hit the shift button by mistake.

If you get ahold of them or they you, they will put your name on a list and what size traps your looking for. It was about a week before a very nice lady there called me back, but she had zero information as to WHEN any production would start. But she did state that there was a huge demand for the long springs so they are taking names.

Re: Sleepy creek? [Re: DanN] #8071411
02/07/24 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DanN
Originally Posted by ~ADC~
If they were as popular as people let on they would still be in production today. I'm not saying they aren't good traps but they must not of sold really well or they would of been making plenty of money to keep producing them. Other trap manufactures are still in production.


What other trap manufacturers in the U.S are still making traps ? All that was left was Sleepy creek, BMI, and Oneida Victor. There is Minnesota brand , but I I heard some of the parts for their traps are foreign made and assembled here.


I don't believe I said anything about made in the USA.

Re: Sleepy creek? [Re: That.darn.coon] #8071488
02/07/24 10:32 PM
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I could be wrong. But I think the NOBS dog proof may be made overseas.


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Re: Sleepy creek? [Re: Larry Baer] #8071644
02/08/24 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Larry Baer
On the Southern Snare website it lists Sleepy Creek traps. Some are in stock. I sent them a message asking if they really have them.

On their site only #1's available. All else it says is out of stock


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