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I am totally new to snares and... #8071433
02/07/24 09:24 PM
02/07/24 09:24 PM
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Pofarmer10 Offline OP
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I am totally new to snares and don't know much about them. Do you need deer stops and how do you set them and stake them? I saw a guy who put a loop on one end and placed a stop so the snare would only open so far and added a support wire. Is that all I need?


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Re: I am totally new to snares and... [Re: Pofarmer10] #8071440
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Missouri trapping regulations might tell u all you need to know.


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Re: I am totally new to snares and... [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8071444
02/07/24 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Missouri trapping regulations might tell u all you need to know.

Yep look at this and ask the questions accordingly. Every state is different.

Re: I am totally new to snares and... [Re: Pofarmer10] #8071446
02/07/24 09:35 PM
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It says I need a stop to keep it from closing less than 2 1/2 inches. Would a regular nut work for that? And what kind of "mechanical lock" do I need to get?


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Re: I am totally new to snares and... [Re: Pofarmer10] #8071450
02/07/24 09:42 PM
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You could ask one question and get 50 different answers and they would all be right but only one would be right for you. For the state the answerers reside in of course.

Starting place, your state regulations. Next learn the language if your not familiar with snaring. Lots of potential confusion with things like cable restraint vs snare or relaxing vs non-relaxing. Seems like each state makes up definitions as they go to keep the politicians in the dark.

Then once you've cut through the bs and understand the mechanics of snaring you're on your way.


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Re: I am totally new to snares and... [Re: Pofarmer10] #8071459
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I though Mo. had to have Cable Restraints? Did that change?

Re: I am totally new to snares and... [Re: Pofarmer10] #8071460
02/07/24 10:02 PM
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It doesn't actually have the word snares but what is the difference?

Here's the link:
https://mdc.mo.gov/hunting-trapping/trapping/getting-started-furbearer-trapping


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Re: I am totally new to snares and... [Re: Pofarmer10] #8071470
02/07/24 10:09 PM
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From your Missouri regulations...

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SNARES-

Snares must comply with the following:
-Be set underwater
-Have a loop 15 inches or less in diameter when set
-Have a stop device that prevents the snare from closing to less than 2 1/2 inches in diameter
-Be made with cable that is between 5/64 inch and 1/8 inch in diameter
-Have a mechanical lock and anchor swivel.



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CABLE RESTRAINTS-

When used correctly, cable restraint devices hold animals alive and allow trappers to release non-target animals unharmed. The devices can be used to take furbearers from November 15 through January 31.

Cable restraint devices MUST:
-Be made of stranded steel cable, not greater than 5 feet long (not including extension, with a diameter of not less than 5/64 inch and equipped with a commercially manufactured breakaway rated at 350 pounds or less, a relaxing-type lock, a stop device that prevents it from closing to less than 2 1/2 inches in diameter, and an anchor swivel.
Note: Compression-type chokes and other mechanically powered springs are prohibited.
-Have a loop size of 12 inches diameter or smaller when set
-Have the bottom of the cable loop set at least 6 inches or greater above the ground
-Be anchored solidly or staked in a location not allowing entanglement
-Be checked daily.
Cable restraint devices must NOT be:
-Capable of extending to within 12 inches of a fence
-Set using a drag
-Set with a kill-pole
-Used within 150 feet of any dwelling or driveway leading to a dwelling.



Re: I am totally new to snares and... [Re: Pofarmer10] #8071474
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Something like these are what you need, if you're not using them under water.... https://schmittent.com/product/mo-pa-wi-cable-restraint/

If I'm not mistaken you have to take a Cable Restraint class in Mo. before you can use them as well.

Re: I am totally new to snares and... [Re: Pofarmer10] #8071475
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Yes you can use a nut for a deer stop. You want the smallest lightest nut it is possible to use. bought deer stops aren't very expensive though.
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Re: I am totally new to snares and... [Re: Pofarmer10] #8071520
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Originally Posted by Pofarmer10
It says I need a stop to keep it from closing less than 2 1/2 inches. Would a regular nut work for that? And what kind of "mechanical lock" do I need to get?


It would be a good idea to join the Missouri Trappers Association. It's a great association and you will find great information on your questions.


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Re: I am totally new to snares and... [Re: Pofarmer10] #8071525
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You might consider buying a dozen that you know to be state legal to learn on and study before venturing into making your own. That's what I did. Learned as much what I disliked as I did that I liked. Now I make them to my own specifications.


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Re: I am totally new to snares and... [Re: Pofarmer10] #8071733
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Best bet would be to get with a trapper close to you and learn all you can.


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Re: I am totally new to snares and... [Re: ~ADC~] #8071754
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
Something like these are what you need, if you're not using them under water.... https://schmittent.com/product/mo-pa-wi-cable-restraint/

If I'm not mistaken you have to take a Cable Restraint class in Mo. before you can use them as well.


I believe the class requirement is no longer needed, at least not stated in the regulations that I have seen. I bought some commercially made that stated they were MO compliant and built copies off of those. I just haven’t taken the time to set any of them. I am always concerned about the no entangle rule.


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Re: I am totally new to snares and... [Re: Pofarmer10] #8071818
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entanglement is fairly easy to avoid, you're looking for trails that doesnt have anything that the cable can wrap up in within the length of the cable. Even a small sapling is enough to wrap up a snare.

Re: I am totally new to snares and... [Re: Pofarmer10] #8071823
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What is your target? I mainly snare coon and beaver. It's one of my favorite things. Cheap also. Not sure on current prices but I used to be able to set 25 snare/cr for the price of one beaver trap. So if your getting started on a budget it's effective. The more sets you have out the better your chances of a catch.

Re: I am totally new to snares and... [Re: Pofarmer10] #8071859
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Looks like your stuff to cable restraints there buddy
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