Re: swapping earth anchors back to rebar
[Re: Gone Trappin.]
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02/21/24 07:52 AM
02/21/24 07:52 AM
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I tried cable anchors for one season some years ago. I decided they were more trouble than they were worth and switched back to 18" single and cross-staked rebar. I don't walk far on my land lines so weight is not an issue.
Eh...wot?
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Re: swapping earth anchors back to rebar
[Re: Gone Trappin.]
#8082696
02/21/24 08:47 AM
02/21/24 08:47 AM
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South Ga - Almost Florida
Swamp Wolf
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Cable with 2" fender washers or WolFangs...or DirtDogs, if I can find them.
Can build with WFs or DDs cheaper than 2" fender washers if you can find them for $40ish/per 100 ends.
I use 3/32" 7x7 cable...15" long. Cut em about 2" below ground when I pull trap.
My time, back, wrists, elbows, and shoulders are worth way more than a 60cent cable stake.
Thank God For Your Blessings! Never Half-Arse Anything!
Resource Protection Service
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Re: swapping earth anchors back to rebar
[Re: Gone Trappin.]
#8082715
02/21/24 09:19 AM
02/21/24 09:19 AM
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Northwest, Kansas
Flatlander94
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Northwest, Kansas
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They both have their pluses and minuses. I like the ease of earth anchors, but personally I double stake with rebar. I still carry wolf fangs and my driver in the truck if I decide to go that route though. If I have a hot location that I might trap the following year I'll put a wolf fang in and on pull day disconnect from the quick link and tie orange surveyors tape around the cable.
"Conservation is not merely a thing to be enshrined in outdoor museums, but a way of living on land."
-Aldo Leopold
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Re: swapping earth anchors back to rebar
[Re: Flatlander94]
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02/21/24 09:35 AM
02/21/24 09:35 AM
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Pennsylvania
elsmasho82
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They both have their pluses and minuses. I like the ease of earth anchors, but personally I double stake with rebar. I still carry wolf fangs and my driver in the truck if I decide to go that route though. If I have a hot location that I might trap the following year I'll put a wolf fang in and on pull day disconnect from the quick link and tie orange surveyors tape around the cable. I always thought that was a good idea but it is not legal in my state! They don’t want you to get a jump on the eighty billion raccoons….
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Re: swapping earth anchors back to rebar
[Re: Gone Trappin.]
#8082783
02/21/24 11:10 AM
02/21/24 11:10 AM
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ny
upstateNY
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earth anchors just don’t seem to do it for me, when i put them in and pull them tight a bit of the cable always comes up no matter how deep i make it go down, they are also alot harder to put in than some rebar and fiddling with the driver and getting it pulled out isn’t worth it. the ones with chains are no better than the rebar when it comes to weight. i know theres alot of earth anchor fans out here but i just don’t see the benifit other than weight reduction traveling on foot. i prefer a cross staked rebar. any one else have opinions on this? Cross stake for me also.Single stake would be fine if it weren't for our Coyotes.
the wheels of the gods turn very slowly
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Re: swapping earth anchors back to rebar
[Re: Calvin]
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02/21/24 11:45 AM
02/21/24 11:45 AM
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South Ga - Almost Florida
Swamp Wolf
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I tested the earth anchors side by side with rebar. I went back to rebar. Keep rebar straight and it actually saves you time in the short and long term. you can pull two rebar a LOT faster than you can anchors if the rebar isn't bent.
The only advantage I can see to anchors is if you're running straight sand or using them as a disposable where you're just cutting and running.
If you are going to use anchors, switch to chain. Cable's a pain. And yes, even chain will break upon retrieval at times. Do NOT pull them with the puller between your legs. You'll learn that one the hard way only once. Another advantage to cable stakes vs rebar is if you set a bunch of traps.....ie 100 to 200 per setup. That's a lot of rebar weight.
Thank God For Your Blessings! Never Half-Arse Anything!
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Re: swapping earth anchors back to rebar
[Re: OhioBoy]
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02/21/24 04:31 PM
02/21/24 04:31 PM
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Indiana
Providence Farm
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Somebody remind me how to make one. such and such rebar with such and such washer. How long? It's been over 20 years so... #4 rebar (1/2") 15" long for cross stake k9. 18" for coon. I think 5/8" nut welded on one end is what I used. Just slid the nut over the rod tell rod was flush with top of nut and ran a bead around it with a 3/32. 7018. Nut size is the only thing I don't 100% remember.
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Re: swapping earth anchors back to rebar
[Re: Providence Farm]
#8083022
02/21/24 04:32 PM
02/21/24 04:32 PM
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east central WI
k snow
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east central WI
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Somebody remind me how to make one. such and such rebar with such and such washer. How long? It's been over 20 years so... #4 rebar (1/2") 15" long for cross stake k9. 18" for coon. I think 5/8" nut welded on one end is what I used. Just slid the nut over the rod tell rod was flush with top of nut and ran a bead around it with a 3/32. 7018. Nut size is the only thing I don't 100% remember. Leave the rod a little proud of the nut, that way you are beating on the rebar end, not the welded on nut.
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Re: swapping earth anchors back to rebar
[Re: Gone Trappin.]
#8083056
02/21/24 05:47 PM
02/21/24 05:47 PM
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Joined: Jun 2010
Ontario, Canada
slydogx
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Mostly clay or black loam here. I run standard Berkshires on 16" of twisted wire for raccoon (DP's). It is lightweight, strong and fast and I am confident that as long as I don't make a set that offers the animal straight, upwards pull then there isn't any coon strong enough to budge that anchor. Also, since I anchor the traps with only 12" of chain above the ground, there is no opportunity for a running start and pretty much any pull will be sideways in relation to the anchor. If there is any question about the anchor holding, like in soupy muck along a creek, I generally switch to long smooth rod stakes through the swivel body. These don't allow an upward pull because I generally leave 12" or more of the stake protruding and the swivel body just slides up the stake and doesn't allow pumping (I am careful to avoid anchoring close to vertical surfaces like trees or steep banks). For anything larger than raccoon, I honestly don't have much experience but I have my K9 traps set up with Wolf Fangs on 1/8" cable and based on my testing, I am confident that they'll hold. I do see the appeal of cross staking with rebar, but as stated, I really don't have any business having an opinion when it comes to K9 trapping.
Just happy to be here.
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Re: swapping earth anchors back to rebar
[Re: elsmasho82]
#8083082
02/21/24 06:16 PM
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They both have their pluses and minuses. I like the ease of earth anchors, but personally I double stake with rebar. I still carry wolf fangs and my driver in the truck if I decide to go that route though. If I have a hot location that I might trap the following year I'll put a wolf fang in and on pull day disconnect from the quick link and tie orange surveyors tape around the cable. I always thought that was a good idea but it is not legal in my state! They don’t want you to get a jump on the eighty billion raccoons…. Are you sure? I don't think it's illegal to leave stakes in the ground outside of trapping season. Title 34 SUBCHAPTER D FURTAKING REGULATIONS SUBCHAPTER D § 2361. Unlawful acts concerning taking of furbearers. (a) General prohibitions.--Except as otherwise provided in this title, it is unlawful for any person to: (3) Stake out or set traps for furbearers prior to the date and hour fixed as the open season for taking such animals. I guess that could be open to interpretation but I take it to mean no staked traps outside the season.
Eh...wot?
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Re: swapping earth anchors back to rebar
[Re: Gone Trappin.]
#8083167
02/21/24 08:33 PM
02/21/24 08:33 PM
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Just another one of the gray areas that seem to be built into our Title 34 Game Code. You'll likely get different answers from different wardens.
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