custom 220 swift w/ sako action
24” barrel 1 in 12
55 gr v max with 38 gr varget-hot
to 500 but it better be a calm day
Haven’t shot this in a long time and I am away from home working but I think it was around 3900-3950 fps

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1165127399?pid=689451 - I shoot a lot of these and they knock the snot of even the biggest coon when calling. Probably not what you wondered about.

Its like I tried to tell you a few weeks ago. Boone had many posts on Vmax. The problem that you are facing is (in my opinion) isn't a difference in opinion its a difference in experience. So sure you can shoot a Vmax and it work just fine. So when you talk to someone about it and they have killed a few and it worked just fine for them they swear by it and then you ask them what they think. Then you have guys like Boone that has already shot more yotes with a rifle than shots I will ever take at them with one. Someone like that has developed an opinion after many trials and errors. People like that know that if he shoots 25 yotes with a vmax that say 3 or 4 will not go well and that makes people like him say they aren't good enough. Some people haven't shot enough to get to that conclusion and others have and don't care what the bullet did to the critter just so it fell over dead. So.... when you ask around and get differing opinions its not b/c someone is right or wrong. Its because they are telling you what works for them and everyone doesn't have the same goal. So you have to consider that and what you are trying to do and how that applies to your goal, whatever it is that you are trying to do. Myself, I simplify it. I read all of Boones post and realize that he tested things way more than I ever could and I trust his ability opinion ethics and fur handling. And thats why trapperman is great.

22-250 55 gr 3680 fs
Ruger American predator 1-10
New stock ammo

.224 Valkyrie 60 gr 3600
Foley Defense AR 1-8
New stock ammo

Most shots inside 200 yards. All DRT or very near point of impact. Bullets will exit on anything other than a shoulder shot or head on.

22-250 3600 fps
Haven't shot v-max's for years, but when I did, they performed similarly to ballistic tips but not quite as accurate. I had issue with lack of penetration of both bullets on coyotes, especially up close.
I used them mainly because I loved the accuracy, ricochet's were greatly reduced due to the bullets being so frangible, and they'd really turn a crow or prairie dog into reactive target. I did have more coyotes run off than with soft points.

Again, I probably have not shot them since the 90's. So, maybe the bullets have changed. Pretty sure I still have a box or two of the bullets in the reloading room ...may have to shoot some for old time's sake.
My 2 cents.

Best Coyote bullet I've used that saves fur with good shot placement, with a broadside or frontal shot it drops them on the spot with no exit. If you hit them on the edge look out. but that's true with any varmint style bullet. .220 Swift, 44.0 H414, and 55gr Vmax at 3950 out of a Ruger No.1V. Shoots sub half inch groups when my old eyes will focus.

10% of the people have 90% of the experience. Those are ones to listen too. I see what you are saying Ohioboy in things that I have a lot of experience in. People's idea of good is relative to their experience. What works is relative to their expectations.

If you don't like the subject don't open the thread. There is no need to stalk another user. That to me is a form of flaming.

IMO asking pertinent questions is not flaming. But what do I know? What I do know is the only real experience that truly matters is hands on experience. You can watch all the videos on UTube, talk to a hundred people with differing opinions, and still not know. The dumbest most ignorant person on earth can post an “informative” video on the Tube, and some will follow. Wisdom is gained only through personal experience.

22 cal 50 gr in a 222 and a couple 22-250’s. Book max load of xbr8208 in the 222. H380 in the 22-250’s.
All are rem 700 or model seven with factory twist barrel.
Use for varmints but wouldn’t hesitate to use on deer if situation is presented and that’s all I had.

20 cal 32 gr in a couple 204 Rugers. One savage one 700. Both are extremely accurate with this bullet and is an amazing killer on varmints. Both have factory twist barrels and neither will stabilize a 40 gr V-max.

I will agree with

I think you get a mess with vmax more than 4-5 out of 25. At least I do. Nosler ballistic tip. 55 grainer at 3500 fps. No clue what the twist is in my remington 700 22-250.

Vmax

Exactly,hence why I make posts like this or the one I did a while back on .22-250.
Taking that information I'm given by all these people with all the details from all over helps form a picture. It's not dissimilar to how researches or scientists look at stuff. Ask enough people get enough details you can start seeing trends .
Group a
people who don't like vmaxs don't like them because XYZ
Group b
Most people who do like them like them because ABC

Mabye these people who hate them are shooting them way farther then the other guys so there's that range aspect to them. Mabye it's a certain grain . Like you said what's good or acceptable for one groups may be terrible for others.

So it's not really a question of what's the best or something like that it's why does it works so well for some and not others . And getting all your information and data from one person, well that's just not very scientific

When I study experts in various fields they really break stuff down when their curious about something and they value opinions from everyone. Of course they don't take everything as the 100% truth but man there amazing listeners.they ask why more then anything and when you have these killers and world champion and guys who legit write the books doing that.... I mean seems like a good idea

And the whole personal experience deal . Look that's fine and dandy but when you wanna know what a particular thing does in say Montana in the freezing cold it makes a lot of sense to just ask the guys out there who have used it in those conditions instead of just stopping your life and saying hay imma go to Montana and for three years and do nothing but test these bullets . They already have some data of that lemme just ask them .then I can compare that to people from other places. It's like reading books posts about trapping beaver up north then reading swamp wolfs about trapping beaver in the south. Neither is wrong but they do have differing views on stuff and by reading and comparing their post you can get a great understanding on the what and why's.

I know it probably makes me look like an absolute idiot and a laughing stock but at this point I'm fine with that

Not at all, but I see your name on enough of the forums, asking these same questions, to hope you understand you know how these places work. Asking any questions to a captive audience, you're gonna get responses, good, bad, cranky, etc.

Does no one shoot large calibers these days?
People laugh when they ask what I shoot coyotes with? Hogs? Deer (does)?
It’s all the same, .308 with 165gr. bullets. I don’t mind tracking jobs and pretty good at it, but prefer to watch them fold up in the scope. I watch too many videos of all these smaller calibers with hogs and coyotes running for the woods after being shot. I’m not saying all mine drop, but they leave a trail you could follow with a pen light.

I have killed a sack full of coyotes with my 270 because for years thats what I had. I prefer not sewing to sewing though.

Nah. You're just like me and just think about everything probably more than we should. Have fun and be safe out there big guy.

Shot the 50 gr vmax out of the 223 with 27 gr of varget. It is a real accurate load but it splashes on coyotes. People that say you have to hit them in a certain spot must not shoot many. When you call more than one coyote at a time it can get a little western after the first shot.
That load is real fun to shoot prairie dogs with.
Have also shot the 32 gr and 40 gr vmaxes out of the 204. Those were accurate also, have only shot prairie dogs with the 204 vmaxes.

I see we think a lot a like on this. Now I primary use a 243 7mm08 & 260. When I pull the trigger things hit the dirt. After shooting over 30 yotes one year with my AR in 223 with a few different bullets I got tired of spinning and flipping and the runners. Dropping on the spot happened but was the exception.

But with a 243 7mm08 and 260 they hit the dirt with maybe a kick or tail twitch. So the 223/556 has not. Been shot in several years. Sad because I have thousands of good hand loads loaded up for it along with some old factory stuff. But. I'm my opinion it's good for fox, coon size animals. I can't believe they shoot people with them. My brother in law said I was correct after getting home from Afghanistan. Said he often had to put 5 to 6 rounds in them with his m4 to keep them down but with the m14 one usually did the trick.