Re: What to do?
[Re: MNEric]
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02/23/24 10:06 AM
02/23/24 10:06 AM
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ny
upstateNY
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ny
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Nip it in the bud.Next thing he will have half a dozen hunting buddies in there with him.Especialy since he declined you permission.Takes some nerve.
Last edited by upstateNY; 02/23/24 10:08 AM.
the wheels of the gods turn very slowly
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Re: What to do?
[Re: Wanna Be]
#8084496
02/23/24 03:44 PM
02/23/24 03:44 PM
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Joined: Jan 2021
Minnesota
MNEric
OP
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OP
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Minnesota
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The fact you posted almost 3 weeks later than the pic was taken, means you really don’t care, lol. We get a trespasser we don’t know, it’s straight to social media to see if anyone knows who it is and how to contact them. Most of the time it’s handled within and hour or two. A couple times the trespassers themselves contacted us explaining the circumstances. Every once in a while no one has a clue so we set another camera or two and either we catch them or have the sheriffs department come do it. 50% of the time we press charges. You are correct the picture was 3 weeks before I posted it. Does that mean I stewed on it for 3 weeks? Kind of a naive assumption. I just checked my camera Tuesday evening.
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Re: What to do?
[Re: Reaperman]
#8084526
02/23/24 05:02 PM
02/23/24 05:02 PM
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Joined: Dec 2020
Wisconsin
Scott__aR
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Here's one way you could discretely handle this. You could say if you want to run your dogs thru my property, let me know beforehand so I can take down my snares. Because you would hate to catch "another" expensive dog in one of them. This will get his attention ... ^^^^^ this ^^^^^ Don't want to trust yourself not to be confrontational, send the picture and the note to him by registered mail so he has to sign for the note. And yes, it costs a few bucks. Keep a copy of the note, picture with time stamp, and post office receipt. If no further conversations and he continues to trespass, turn the current evidence and past documentation over to law enforcement to allow them to have a conversation with the man.
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Re: What to do?
[Re: Scott__aR]
#8084529
02/23/24 05:11 PM
02/23/24 05:11 PM
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Joined: Jan 2007
Northern Minnesota
BernieB.
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Northern Minnesota
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Here's one way you could discretely handle this. You could say if you want to run your dogs thru my property, let me know beforehand so I can take down my snares. Because you would hate to catch "another" expensive dog in one of them. This will get his attention ... ^^^^^ this ^^^^^ Don't want to trust yourself not to be confrontational, send the picture and the note to him by registered mail so he has to sign for the note. And yes, it costs a few bucks. Keep a copy of the note, picture with time stamp, and post office receipt. If no further conversations and he continues to trespass, turn the current evidence and past documentation over to law enforcement to allow them to have a conversation with the man. Except that you now have documentation that you have snares out when it's not trapping season.
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Re: What to do?
[Re: ToTheWoods]
#8084635
02/23/24 07:48 PM
02/23/24 07:48 PM
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Joined: May 2011
Oakland, MS
yotetrapper30
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Oakland, MS
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AVERAGE JOE. You are incorrect about being able to retrieve animals from private property without permission.
Minnesota Statute Chapter 609.605 details Criminal Trespassing. The statutes state that a person is guilty of a misdemeanor if the person intentionally:
(1) permits domestic animals or fowls under the actor's control to go on the land of another within a city;
If your animal is on my property without permission you allowed it to happen by not controlling your animal properly. Actually, you're incorrect. Minnesota Statutes 97B.001 TRESPASS. Subd. 6.Retrieving hunting dogs. A person on foot may, without permission of the owner, occupant, or lessee, enter private land without a firearm to retrieve a hunting dog. After retrieving the dog, the person must immediately leave the premises. https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/97B.001#stat.97B.001.6
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Re: What to do?
[Re: Average Joe]
#8084638
02/23/24 07:51 PM
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Joined: Jul 2013
Amite county Mississippi
Wolfdog91
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Amite county Mississippi
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Does that make it ok to trespass without permission? In my state it does . For got the law but something along thine of as long as your just retrieving your dog and not actively hunting you don't need permission. That being said most people down here seem pretty dang chill about it . Like as long as you don't rut up the fields, leave gates open or break fences not many seem to really care unless their just pricks.. there also not as many well marked boundaries in a lot of places around here so most are pretty understanding. Now it's different if you actively turned your dog loose on somones property you don't have permission on and proceeded to hunt it or you "accidentally" did something. That also being said since a lot of these land owners around here are out of state many don't seem to care too much about it as long as stuff isn't broken or it's not a super common thing.... mainly as long as isn't no happening then 4weeks out the year their there.
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Re: What to do?
[Re: Ohio Wolverine]
#8084700
02/23/24 08:45 PM
02/23/24 08:45 PM
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N. Carolina
Scout1
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N. Carolina
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Private property is private property. Are you going to own it forever? Yes personal space is granted, but just hikers passing through , is that really killing you? Only time I was upset with people passing through, is when those people wouldn't allow people on their property, but felt they could do as they pleased on mine. Again sad people that feel they need total control. Give them an inch and they’ll take a mile. On my property I expect people to ask. I haven’t told anyone no, YET. Come on my property and I want to know the reason. I pay the taxes so anyone else can ask for permission. I hunt what small amount I have, but allow a couple of others that ASKED to hunt and encourage them to. Not trying to be rude to you but just stating the facts. Mostly I tell the ones that have permission is to not pee my neighbors off.
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Re: What to do?
[Re: MNEric]
#8084727
02/23/24 09:06 PM
02/23/24 09:06 PM
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Joined: Feb 2010
Henderson, N.Y. Jefferson Co.
walleyed
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![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2024/02/full-54939-209145-img_2667.jpeg) Just another dog hunter doing what dog hunters have always done. Trespassing, poaching, trap smashing, fur stealing, low life criminals masquerading as outdoor sportsmen & violating your private property rights. I'd be talking to the game warden & showing him the evidence, then pressing charges. This is especially egregious since he refused you permission on his property. There's no friendly neighbor relations to tip toe around here, This dog hunter dirt bag is playing you for a fool. Burn him !!! w
"Provisional/Interim" member of NYSTA
"I Support Non-Resident Trapping"
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Re: What to do?
[Re: MNEric]
#8084735
02/23/24 09:13 PM
02/23/24 09:13 PM
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Joined: Oct 2009
western mn
bucksnbears
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western mn
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Lots of misinformation on this thread!!
swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo
You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Re: What to do?
[Re: MNEric]
#8084859
02/23/24 11:24 PM
02/23/24 11:24 PM
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Joined: Oct 2009
western mn
bucksnbears
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western mn
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Better off just setting the parameters ahead of time when/ when not. I know it's a touching subject but if you have let's say 80 acres and dogs are following a coyote, chances are,"" unless they catch it", those dogs will most likely spend more then a few minutes on that property. Everyone landowner hates coyotes but Lord forbid.... For you pissing about it, ask the houndmens to go with on a chase next time. You'll learn they ain't the boggiemen most think they are. As for the Op's pic, that chase could have started 10 miles away. Just ended up on yours? The " I've got snares set" ploy doesn't work well.  These guys have GPS collars on their dogs and usually know where thier dogs are. Bottom line,... houndmens have great pride in seeing thier dogs run what they are trained to do.. and a good group of dogs can do what the best hunters/ trappers can't get done. Embrace them! The guys I know are super concerned about not running hounds during deer season ( which some states run WAY TO LONG) 
swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo
You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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