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Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle [Re: Eagleye] #8065992
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In my woods I have buckthorn and prickly ash. Prickly Ash is easy to kill. Just scrape a small piece of the bark off and paint it with an undiluted woody plant herbicide and it will die shortly. Buckthorn is a lot tougher. The wood of Buckthorn is real pretty. I knew a guy who I used to give the larger Buckthorn to. He made miniature, very decorative bird houses that were really amazing.


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Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle [Re: Eagleye] #8066577
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Buckthorn makes good walking stick canes.

Trapper7, I might try that trick w/ garlon 4 on prickly ash. I've never heard of that. Although prickly ash is easy to pull as long as it's moist ground and you don't get scratched.

Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle [Re: Eagleye] #8070012
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Today was my first attempt at dormant spraying honeysuckle, I’ll evaluate the effectiveness during spring green up. We have near record temperatures at 50 degrees with no snow. I’m utilizing Garlon 4 Ultra with blue dyed basal oil, mixed at 30% Garlon to 70% oil. The method I chose was a modified cut stump, I left the stump 6” above ground, treating the cambium first and then the basal outer bark.
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This is a fairly mature stand on a new 40 I bought- I’ve had a couple PM’s asking about how to identify it during dormancy, mature honeysuckle will have arched branches, a shaggy bark basal and a hollow pith when cut.
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Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle [Re: Eagleye] #8070015
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I expect you will be very happy with the results. Japanese honeysuckle is very susceptible for Garlon.


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Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle [Re: Eagleye] #8083153
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Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle [Re: Eagleye] #8083513
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Since this time of year the sap is down in the roots. I wonder how effective cutting off the larger buckthorn plants and painting the stump with undiluted Crossbow will be?


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Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle [Re: Eagleye] #8084039
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What about using a skid-steer and post-tree puller and pulling them out by the roots? Been thinking about this lately.

Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle [Re: Bear Tracker] #8084085
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Originally Posted by Bear Tracker
What about using a skid-steer and post-tree puller and pulling them out by the roots? Been thinking about this lately.


we did a project by the river about 8-10 years ago pulled up all sorts of honeysuckle piled it up

the roots break off where they get little and that grows the next year

also you disturb a lot of soil and that lets other things in to seed

applying herbicide to a fresh cut seems to be the best way to kill the stump , then the roots rot away and stumps pop fairly easily the next year

it still takes some spraying to catch what you missed the next year but not as much.


pulling can make an area look great in a day , but it doesn't seem to keep

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Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle [Re: Bear Tracker] #8085458
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Originally Posted by Bear Tracker
What about using a skid-steer and post-tree puller and pulling them out by the roots? Been thinking about this lately.

I would not pull buckthorn that way. There are better ways to kill buckthorn & the method you refer to would cause too much soil disruption.

Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle [Re: Eagleye] #8085585
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I get that but we have acres of it to try to control and I am not sure it is even possible with it being spread.

Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8085595
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
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I'm going to add some Dawn this morning- heavy frost last night- should I wait for the sun to dry things out or doesn't matter?


if your spraying the cut ends I don't think the dew/frost will matter much , it is about the absorption though the fresh cut that kills

on that bigger stuff if you can ring the bark 1/2 inch deep all the way around and spray it that might work well also

trees live and die on the outside layer of new wood under the bark

this is why emerald ash borer kills a mature tree never going more than an 1/8 inch into the wood

when you see an ash with one side having a few leaves and you take an ax and start barking around the trunk you fine one narrow path of live under the bark that the borer didn't get too yet , that is the perfect time to take those down as they still have good holding wood on the stump and don't run the risk of dropping too many limbs on you while sawing
if you wait till they start dropping big limbs in the wind , you don't want to be under them while sawing widow makers are no fun.

Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle [Re: Eagleye] #8085598
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Sorry hit the wrong button. Instead of ringing the tree drill a half inch hole to the heart and fill it full of tordon. Dead tree in a month

Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle [Re: Eagleye] #8085724
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great idea going to try this, thanks 5123

Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle [Re: Eagleye] #8085991
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I’m back at it again today… the M12 Milwaukee pruner is another great tool, I pull up to pencil size, prune up to an inch and use the Milwaukee hatchet above that.
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Originally Posted by Eagleye
I’m back at it again today… the M12 Milwaukee pruner is another great tool, I pull up to pencil size, prune up to an inch and use the Milwaukee hatchet above that.
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how long is that battery good for. I use a hand pruner for cutting small stuff, after a couple of days the hands can get sore. I imagine that thing is heavy tho.

Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle [Re: Bear Tracker] #8086062
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Originally Posted by Bear Tracker
What about using a skid-steer and post-tree puller and pulling them out by the roots? Been thinking about this lately.

Thats what my cousin has been doing under the supervision of the MN DNR. He piles up plucked trees and burns them in the winter. In fact, the DNR is paying him to do so on his own property and instructed him to take all woody vegetation under 4" also.

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Dirty D -. The batteries last a long time, I recharged both M12 pruner and hatchet, M18 chainsaw when I went in for lunch. The pruner is not heavy to handle and is rated for 1,000 1/2" cuts per battery charge,

Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle [Re: Eagleye] #8087824
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Originally Posted by Eagleye
Dirty D -. The batteries last a long time, I recharged both M12 pruner and hatchet, M18 chainsaw when I went in for lunch. The pruner is not heavy to handle and is rated for 1,000 1/2" cuts per battery charge,

I might try that. I often rely on a 20V reciprocating saw, which works so-so

This winter is probably great for treating buckthorn

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Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle [Re: Eagleye] #8094998
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Re: Dealing with Buckthorn/Honeysuckle [Re: Eagleye] #8095014
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Hook them up high and yank them out w/tractor. Hit the remaining roots w/roundup.

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