Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight
[Re: Steven 49er]
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02/28/24 07:14 AM
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This getting paid by weight nonsense is ticking me off.
I should dip all my finished pelts in sand Please explain why.
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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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02/28/24 07:28 AM
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BTW, in all seriousness my blanket beaver are weighing in at 2 lbs. A tad less than what Don Wolf says they should be at. But i do trim off ears nose and lips, shave down shoulders a bit, and don't leave any grease on the leather. Your Beaver must be thin hided. November caught blankets easily weigh at least 3lbs
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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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02/28/24 07:47 AM
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I don’t get this pay by the pound thing either. Under fur & hair is friggin light.
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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight
[Re: Shakeyjake]
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02/28/24 08:04 AM
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I don’t get this pay by the pound thing either. Under fur & hair is friggin light. It's selling them by the pound stretched and dried hide included.
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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight
[Re: Turtledale]
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02/28/24 09:09 AM
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Never heard of this by the pound buying. Mark Boardman from over your way, used to buy put up, stretched, & dried beaver pelts by weight for a while. Afterwards, he was also the NYS Groenewold route buyer for awhile but now I'm not sure if he is still buying fur, or not. I think he was paying around $8.00 or $9.00 a pound at the time. w
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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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02/28/24 09:53 AM
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I do not trim off the nose and lips, nor do take off the tail tits.....we need the weight...I do thin down the shoulders/Jowls area but probably wouldnt have to....I have been told buy a certain midstate buyer that my pelts seem papery and light. And it's a nice heavy, possibly the most furred out pelt in the state up here on the border...
I agree, sell the damaged buy weight it possible. I dont know at all if there exists a better market for the shearable goods.
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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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02/28/24 10:02 AM
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There is a shearable market out there les, the average furbuyer is too lazy to chase it.
Too easy to pay 18 a lb for and sell for 22.
Good heavy furred winter beaver tend to have more underfur, yet lighter leather. The under fur is what they make felt out of. The under ice trapper gets the shaft so to speak.
The Walmart mentality at it's finest.
I may have to haul my beaver to Idaho to get their potential out of them.
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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight
[Re: Turtledale]
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Never heard of this by the pound buying. If they're paying $20 by the lb that's not very different than what the market has been giving at recent sales. BP, how hard where you laughing by yourself when you nailed that to the board? That's what happens when I get bored skinning beaver all day! LOL The warped sense of humor comes out.
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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight
[Re: whartonrattrappe]
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02/28/24 10:17 AM
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BTW, in all seriousness my blanket beaver are weighing in at 2 lbs. A tad less than what Don Wolf says they should be at. But i do trim off ears nose and lips, shave down shoulders a bit, and don't leave any grease on the leather. Your Beaver must be thin hided. November caught blankets easily weigh at least 3lbs To get a better number I would need to weigh a bunch of blankets but I just weighed one. 65" My supers 70"+ will weigh more I'm sure. It is also true that leather weights are different in the north and south. I'm told that Alaska has parchment type leather.
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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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02/28/24 10:21 AM
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And finally, since 99% of the market is hatter and the contracts that the felt factories put out are for pounds rather than number of pelts one can easily understand the natural evolution of buyers buying by the lb.
But if I live in an area with shearable beaver I would absolutely send them to FHA and let them get sorted there.
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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight
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You will never realize the true value of your good pelts if they are not graded. They will be tossed in with the poor stuff and bring the same low price.
Last edited by Boco; 02/28/24 11:54 AM.
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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight
[Re: Steven 49er]
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02/28/24 11:53 AM
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Too easy to pay 18 a lb for and sell for 22.
I may have to haul my beaver to Idaho to get their potential out of them. So they buyer is making $8 on a $40 (2 pound beaver at $20 lb)investment? That certainly isn't getting rich in my opinion when you figure in transportation costs and storage.
I have nothing clever to put here.
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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight
[Re: Boco]
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02/28/24 12:03 PM
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You will never realize the true value of your good pelts if they are not graded. They will be tossed in with the poor stuff and bring the same low price. Spoken like a true northern fur harvester. You are definitely correct. Unfortunately us Southerners just hang our heads without much attention to which pile our pelts are tossed into.
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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight
[Re: Boco]
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02/28/24 12:34 PM
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You will never realize the true value of your good pelts if they are not graded. They will be tossed in with the poor stuff and bring the same low price. While Groeny has five different piles for beaver pelt grades & sizes, FHA has only two piles; One Canadian pile & one USA pile and then they grade (pay) accordingly with Canadian pelts realizing a premium & American pelts getting the shaft !!! w
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