As any reloaders on here know we have had several powder shortages in recent memory. Right now that has eased somewhat for most powders.

However I was at a gun show in Fairmont, WV Sat. There was more ammo there then I've seen in a very long time. At one table a guy had a ton of ammo available. One brand he had a lot of, was House of Payne ammo (HOP) located in central Oh.

Guy asked if there was any ammo I was looking for. Said no, I reload everything but .22. Then he asked if I had plenty of powder. I said yes, pretty much.

He then said the owner of HOP which he is friends with told him that in 3 months virtually all retail sale of powders will dry up. Said this info was from powder manufacturers.

I did hear Hogdon was going to have a 30% price increase early this year.

By the way I think I have seen posts on here for people wanting 410 shells. There was lots of 410's there. I saw multiple shot sizes in both 2 3/4 and 3 inch. These vendors will likely be at the Clarksburg show this weekend, and the Morgantown show on 9th-10th.

What did you see for prices ?

primers

pound of powered

25 rounds 12 , 20 , 410

20 rounds 30-30

50 rounds 9mm

at the gun show?

I wonder if this will cause guns and bullets to get cheaper? If a guy was setup pretty good on ammo/primers/ powder they'd be in a good position to buy.

I paid little attention to prices as I reload.
Most of the 410’s were boxes of 25.
One guy had virtually any caliber you wanted. Guy beside me asked for .32 Win. Said yep. $86 for 20!!
Primers were almost all by the 100. Price from $15.99 to $21.99!!!
One guy had CCI 209’s for $11. I took some of them home. 209’s are hard to find now except Cheddites
If I go this weekend I will check prices on the ammo and post on here

Here is the link to the HOP ammo I spoke about.
You guys can check some of his prices.

https://hopmunitions.com/

Powders were all $55-$72

I looked at hop..... I buy cheaper locally.

that is not a good price on 9mm it is the one I watch the most

it isn't awful just nothing special. about the same as most stores , Midway has Blazer 9mm right now for 14 a box

Freedom is at 11.40 a box and they offer free shipping about 2-3 times a month or 5 dollar flat shipping

https://www.freedommunitions.com/9mm-luger-124-gr-rn-reman-fm.html

there are lots of guys at gun shows who bought up ammo often you can see boxes are old labels and they want a premium because they are looking for a sucker.

I go to some gun show mostly to work them and I hardly ever buy ammo at shows hardly a deal in years they do the same powders jacked up

my local dealer has a decent supply at the movement and every size of primers his prices are typically fair and 40-45 a pound is about the going rate. Primers are 89-98 a K

the 100 round boxes of 22lr CCI mini mags are running 10.99

a lot of the ammo dealers at gun shows are trying to push the panic to promote their prices hoping that you don't shop around

a box of 20 rifle rounds in 30-30 , 308 , 30-06 , 243 hunting are running 25-30 for most of your non premium stuff. if you want lead free that stuff costs more
farm and fleet and fleet farm have a decent selection on a lot of hunting rifle ammo lately

Know person who works for Hogdon Powder, called them for Sami specs, for the 22 ARC, using there powders. He said, inert ingredients, from China, has been cut back, imagine that. Powder has increased over 30%, around here. I bought an estate sale, that had 200 lbs., sold everything but the Varget, H 4350, & H 380. Got 10,000 primers I split with person who went in on the sale with me. Didn't bid on the ammo lots, they sold high I thought. My average for the powder, was resonable compared to the powder prices, that powder is selling for now since the shot show. Still not seeing many large rtifle primers, and small primers have come down some. He also said, that ammo prices, will increase in the near future. As stated above powder is selling 50/72 plus. Last powder I bought was averaging 35/ 45 lb. all the powder in the estate sale was 8 lb I'm looking for more Lapua 22 center x. My main supplier, stated waiting on it to arrive.

I don't think powder is going to get any cheaper. Small primers have came down in price but large primers are not there.
Lead styphnate, the critical ingredient to make modern primers comes from overseas. Namely China and Russia. We, (the USA), have no internal supply or resource.

Seems like all the old time U. S. powder companies have been bought out by an international company in Czechoslovakia. (I wonder if George Soros might have his hand in this, but them I'm kind of a conspiracy theorist.) With all the world turmoil, governments are topping off their munitions. Which will take precedence over any civilian sales.

So.......I say get what you want while you can.........................

Osagian, I agree, I'm stocking up on anything, that I use alot. Have been restocked with primers for several years. I'm buying bullets now, when the sales, come up. i bought 4 lb, jug of Vith N 140, 2 weeks ago, and I've shot there powder for years in my pistols, and it was aways higher priced then all other powders. N 140 shoots excellent in my M 14 E 1, and S 10 , gas rifles. Now Vith, at present , is cheaper then any powder. Betting that changes soon. Probably called a hoarder, but I will be able to shoot, when I want and as much as I want. I don't resale, only trade, for something I need for reloading. But thinking like yourself, better buy now before the gouging, and shortage appears again.

Try to find some Hodgens Trail Boss powder. Its been out of production for a couple years now. Hodgens says maybe some coming in 2024. Checkout the gougers online for Trail Boss and fools are trying to sell if for over $200 for the 9 oz can.

Every time I see threads like this I start worrying I don't have enough and I need to buy more......

I noticed Bass Pro now had a supply of primers including CCI 209 shotshell primers......noticed large pistol also....around the $95 per thousand mark...at least they are showing up on the shelves

A few years back, I decided to take my own advice.....to gain ability to reload it all. (except 22 LR). That ammo shortage would be my last ammo shortage. So around here, if it goes BANG, it can be reloaded. At current usage rates, my lifetime and beyond. And each piece has it's own components allotment that goes with it.

What eventually occurred to me was components stash was out of balance. More powder than primers or bullets to match. So when I buy now, it is filling in the gaps. Primers and powders in balance to start, bullets or shot next and spent cases or brass to follow.

The pool supply place in dayton has half a dozen stores around town. Every spring the news interviews him and he tells everyone how there is going to be a chlorine shortage this summer and then his shelves go bare. Sometimes I wonder if it would have had he not said it?

Now learn to cast bullets if you don't know how and you will be set for life.

Back when Al Gore ran for pres. a bunch of members of our gun club were (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) about prices and shortages. They didn't understand when I told them I never bought less than an 8 lb jug of powder and 5000 primers at a time, and keep adding to their reserve, and that they needed to do the same for all their different loads. This has happened at about every election cycle since.

Some people are grasshoppers & some are ants.

Don't cast bullets but can do buckshot and Lee slugs. And might even have 500 pounds of lead ingots from wheel weights laying around somewhere. I might be mistaken about that.

In 9mm, a pound of powder is good match for a brick of primers and 1,000 bullets. Got carried away snagging powder. Currently way short on primers and bullets to be able to use the powder.

Darn, I was just getting use to seeing overpriced ammo on the shelves! lol

8 pounder from the local gun store the other day. It was on sale for $260!!
Powder companies have been working hard lately. Made in the USA!