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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight [Re: T. MITCHELL] #8088657
02/28/24 11:22 PM
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Selling by the lbs. green and frozen can really open up some opportunity for some that like putting up beaver and they can flesh and stretch like the market they are selling into. That would be more true if as some say there is more interest in better grades.

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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8088815
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf

Or the hatter market is stronger than anyone on Tman realizes.


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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8088973
02/29/24 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
What evidence do we have that the "dumb hatter buyers" have learned their lesson? But I agree, if they haven't they must got something wrong in the head.

Or the hatter market is stronger than anyone on Tman realizes.


At the end of the day there are bean counters in every business and those guys will be paying attention to how many ounces of felt per lb of beaver pelt is yielded. I'm sure they already have figured out that not all beaver pelt sections are equal.


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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight [Re: beaverpeeler] #8089034
02/29/24 01:03 PM
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You guys don't think the fur buyers/bean counters know that there are differences in beaver sections across the continent. Surely, the hatter beaver buyers know the differences in heft of the underfur from northern vs southern and winter vs summer. All those players/buyers are not new players/buyers.

The fur buying game is an old game. There may be a price adjustment, but it will likely be reflected in ALL beaver sections...not just hatter goods.

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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight [Re: beaverpeeler] #8089062
02/29/24 01:31 PM
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Heard on the radio this morning that Beyonce came out with a country song and her fans are making the sales of cowboy hats, boots, and western wear boom. Might lead to another big boom in the beaver hatter market.


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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight [Re: beaverpeeler] #8089171
02/29/24 05:27 PM
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Heading to Estanica tomorrow with my 29 beaver will be in one lot so it should be interesting to see if there is any interest or I bring them home 21 are over 60 inches, a few are the religious ones!

Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight [Re: beaverpeeler] #8089214
02/29/24 07:05 PM
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All else equal,a beaver with 1 inch of underfur will produce 4 times the felt of a beaver with 1/4 inch underfur.
Not only that according to the felt makers the longer the fibre the stronger the felt.

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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight [Re: beaverpeeler] #8089225
02/29/24 07:16 PM
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In Oregon our section of beaver averages out to 1/2 " of underfur.


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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight [Re: Boco] #8089274
02/29/24 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Boco
All else equal,a beaver with 1 inch of underfur will produce 4 times the felt of a beaver with 1/4 inch underfur.
Not only that according to the felt makers the longer the fibre the stronger the felt.

Sounds plausible. I wonder who's been losing $$.


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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight [Re: beaverpeeler] #8089276
02/29/24 08:02 PM
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Well that is the answer, Boco has figured it out that 4 quarter inches = an one inch.

Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight [Re: Tom Fisher] #8089313
02/29/24 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Fisher
Heading to Estanica tomorrow with my 29 beaver will be in one lot so it should be interesting to see if there is any interest or I bring them home 21 are over 60 inches, a few are the religious ones!


Let us know how it works out. Hope you do good! I'm going to the Prineville OTC sale on Saturday and am considering putting most of my beaver in one lot too. I have 152 beaver so it will represent a big portion of the beaver on that sale.

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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight [Re: beaverpeeler] #8089404
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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight [Re: Steven 49er] #8089409
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Also 160 user, when the buyers are purchasing in the round is where the real money is at.


Oh, I agree. That said, my time is worth something too. By the time I skin, flesh and stretch a hide, wipe it down daily as it dries, remove from board and recomb is it safe to say I have 2 hours of labor into it? Minimum wage is around $15 hour. For ME selling green right now works. It also helps me support a local buyer to give me the option green and sell other species.


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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8089414
02/29/24 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by Boco
All else equal,a beaver with 1 inch of underfur will produce 4 times the felt of a beaver with 1/4 inch underfur.
Not only that according to the felt makers the longer the fibre the stronger the felt.

Sounds plausible. I wonder who's been losing $$.


Not me thats for sure,I sold 3 tanned beaver today for $402.50
Guaranteed they wont wind up on a cowboy head.

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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight [Re: beaverpeeler] #8089483
02/29/24 11:07 PM
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If you need to wipe down beaver pelts daily might I suggest that they should have been fleshed a little tighter?


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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight [Re: beaverpeeler] #8089568
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
If you need to wipe down beaver pelts daily might I suggest that they should have been fleshed a little tighter?

I leave that wipe down fat on there for weight, lol...but I agree with you.


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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight [Re: beaverpeeler] #8089719
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Wipe them down daily?

Waste.of time


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight [Re: beaverpeeler] #8089726
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Or, perhaps it provides the illusion of being productive while puttering about in the fur shed. wink

Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight [Re: beaverpeeler] #8089735
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How many days are they on the board?

I figure I cann do a beaver start to finish in 20 25 minutes. The money is made in the shed. But then again I don't have a life


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Re: Selling beaver pelts by weight [Re: Steven 49er] #8089751
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Wipe them down daily?

Waste.of time



In that 15 seconds a guy coulda started the opening cut on another beaver....LOL

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