Re: I'm going to regret this
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03/06/24 10:42 PM
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How is the fur in March that far south,Is it going springy yet or still prime?
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Re: I'm going to regret this
[Re: Boco]
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03/07/24 06:42 AM
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How is the fur in March that far south,Is it going springy yet or still prime? I can't tell a March beaver from a January beaver down here.
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Re: I'm going to regret this
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03/07/24 07:10 AM
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Warrior, Gotta find that primary control location...ie the dam that is holding water around the lodge or den. Might pick off a few at secondary dams and other spots such as crawlouts and mounds, but to finish the job it'll usually come down to finding that primary location.
Footholds work best. Followed by a few snares. Leave the turtle-catching 330s at home in this warm weather.
On a lot of jobs down here finding and then accessing that primary is often extremely difficult in those swamp-type areas. Sometimes the primary is on another landowner's property. At least you might be cottomouth-free up there
I've tried pricing high on tough jobs. They still pay and then I feel really obligated to do a complete removal. Biting off more than I can chew sometimes.
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Re: I'm going to regret this
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03/07/24 07:29 AM
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Warrior, Gotta find that primary control location...ie the dam that is holding water around the lodge or den. Might pick off a few at secondary dams and other spots such as crawlouts and mounds, but to finish the job it'll usually come down to finding that primary location.
Footholds work best. Followed by a few snares. Leave the turtle-catching 330s at home in this warm weather.
On a lot of jobs down here finding and then accessing that primary is often extremely difficult in those swamp-type areas. Sometimes the primary is on another landowner's property. At least you might be cottomouth-free up there
I've tried pricing high on tough jobs. They still pay and then I feel really obligated to do a complete removal. Biting off more than I can chew sometimes. That's the deal, primary is on county land. How it works here is county does absolutely zero other than clear the occasional culvert or replace culverts. They won't pay. BUT if the homeowner with flooded backyard asks they'll say sure your guy can go onto county land but they won't put it in writing. The county ends up with most of the bottoms as it's zoned floodplain. Then they do zero management of those bottoms so they end up beaver swamp. No moccasins up here.
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Re: I'm going to regret this
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03/07/24 08:58 AM
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K, here it is and is typical of urban beaver work that I see. The line is what I am being asked to trap. The two county owned to the south are under water with primary on the lower one. Water backed onto the property to the north. There's beaver to the north. The circled properties are private owned BUT as they are in or partially in the floodplain the floodplain sections cannot be built upon or timbered, basically of no value/use. Essentially unmanaged out of sight out of mind. And to the furthest south a series of lakes, all beaver occupied.
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Re: I'm going to regret this
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03/07/24 11:06 AM
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Sounds like a fun place to be at night with a thermal on a suppressed rifle!
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Re: I'm going to regret this
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03/07/24 11:20 AM
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Sounds like a fun place to be at night with a thermal on a suppressed rifle! Not in Dekalb. Dekalb is the next door neighbor to Fulton and the other half of Atlanta. Completely aside from the politics of stupid in the metro shooting beaver would be considered hunting and hunting in the metro counties is bow only.
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Re: I'm going to regret this
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03/07/24 11:37 AM
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That is always a possibility but in my experience most are dumb. Reason being no one wants to pay a price to make it profitable, it's the county's responsibility, and a whole host of excuses to not hire it done. That and most NWCOs in the metro are corporate and run bread and butter squirrels, coon, opossum routes.
The clients that readily pay are the HOAs in the new subdivision ponds uphill from these bottoms. Those are new mated or single colony and done jobs. I sell those as expect more come spring and have some that are regulars every year. One going on five years now popping in picking up a new pair.
These bottoms are a nasty mess of flooded bottom, privet, multiflora, mohonia, elagnus, ivy, nandina and holly plus drifts of urban trash and tires.
But because they are usually small and narrow sites that I'm on they are easy to educate so I got to be on my game.
These bottoms are the source colonies for the HOA beaver.
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Re: I'm going to regret this
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03/07/24 12:20 PM
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Lots of roads there-easy access. Hammer them.
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Re: I'm going to regret this
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03/07/24 12:37 PM
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Lots of roads there-easy access. Hammer them. "Easy access" ? Lol...if Boco only knew... A southern swamp is somewhat different than a northern bog.
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Re: I'm going to regret this
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03/07/24 02:33 PM
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If you can drive on a road to the swamp instead of hacking a trail thru the bush for your skidoo for a couple miles,that is easy access in my book.
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