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Re: Here's a new one, at least for me, "Kratom" [Re: Finster] #8102006 03/17/24 06:38 PM 03/17/24 06:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Alaska and Washington State W waggler trapper
waggler trapper W Joined: Jan 2008 Alaska and Washington State	Most of it is or at least was recently produced in Thailand. However, in Thailand it is illegal to smoke it. I have heard that smoking it will get you really high for a short period of time, and then you puke your guts out. Sounds like lots of fun. "My life is better than your vacation"

Re: Here's a new one, at least for me, "Kratom" [Re: Finster] #8102013 03/17/24 06:46 PM 03/17/24 06:46 PM
Joined: Nov 2023 Ontario G Ghoogs trapper
Ghoogs trapper G Joined: Nov 2023 Ontario	I'm not sure why our society has such an obsession with drugs/alcohol in general. When the government bans one drug a new one will always pop up. I honestly feel bad for the people man, it seems like not many people can just enjoy their lives being sober- especially from my generation.

Re: Here's a new one, at least for me, "Kratom" [Re: Finster] #8102017 03/17/24 06:49 PM 03/17/24 06:49 PM
Joined: Jun 2018 Beatrice, NE L loosegoose trapper
loosegoose trapper L Joined: Jun 2018 Beatrice, NE	Originally Posted by Finster Originally Posted by loosegoose Oh no, people have the freedom to choose whether or not to put a plant into their own bodies. The horror!!!! Quick, let's outlaw it and expand the police state to enforce it. (BTW, never used it, I have no plans to either. Drugs are for losers. But freedom is awesome, even when it means freedom to do something I don't like.) Problem is that it doesn't affect just them. Not by any means. 100,000 dead last year from opioids. Cities are in ruins, drug addicted homeless living in the streets. Civilized people can't even go to the stores anymore, walk the streets in safety, or even live in their own homes without fear. Politicians throwing our tax money at the issue. So, YES, IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL. It affects everyone, especially those that don't do drugs. Your freedom ends when your actions affect my freedom. I assume, then, that since there's well over 150,000 deaths per year from alcohol abuse, that alcohol should also be outlawed.

Re: Here's a new one, at least for me, "Kratom" [Re: loosegoose] #8102027 03/17/24 07:00 PM 03/17/24 07:00 PM
Joined: Nov 2023 Ontario G Ghoogs trapper
Ghoogs trapper G Joined: Nov 2023 Ontario	I believe if alcohol could be made illegal it would be. Our government has tried to make it illegal before but failed at doing so, it's just too easy to make, leave an orange outside for long enough and you have alcohol. It would benefit our society if all mind-altering substances were made illegal, it's hard to argue that they make our world a better place, it's just unrealistic to do so.

Re: Here's a new one, at least for me, "Kratom" [Re: Finster] #8102051 03/17/24 07:29 PM 03/17/24 07:29 PM
Joined: Aug 2011 james bay frontierOnt. B Boco trapper
Boco trapper B Joined: Aug 2011 james bay frontierOnt.	They been putting that in salads for years. Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.

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