Re: Some toe catches on beaver with #5s
[Re: jooleyen]
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03/26/24 06:44 PM
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Were those #5 coils or longsprings?
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Re: Some toe catches on beaver with #5s
[Re: jooleyen]
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03/26/24 06:51 PM
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I've seen that b4. I've always assumed those higher skint places on the legs were caused by the beav fighting trap after being caught by the toe....and b4 drowning.
If you're pan tension is stiff then the beavs approach may have been not what you set for and trap flipped over in soft bottom and grabbed only a toe.
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Re: Some toe catches on beaver with #5s
[Re: jooleyen]
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03/26/24 06:56 PM
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I have an old timer who has the same problem but with TS 85's. They seem to work fine as long as the trap catches them above the ankle, otherwise they would slip down to the toes and off.
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Re: Some toe catches on beaver with #5s
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03/26/24 07:12 PM
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Were those #5 coils or longsprings? These are longsprings. I've owned them for about a year, just a light coating of rust. I think they're about as strong as they were new.
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Re: Some toe catches on beaver with #5s
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
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03/26/24 07:17 PM
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I've seen that b4. I've always assumed those higher skint places on the legs were caused by the beav fighting trap after being caught by the toe....and b4 drowning.
If you're pan tension is stiff then the beavs approach may have been not what you set for and trap flipped over in soft bottom and grabbed only a toe. While I suppose it's possible, my gut tells me that the trap initially grabbed them by the ankle based on the marks all around the ankle. Especially considering it was two in a row. I feel like with their size and strength they probably would have ripped a toe off and gotten away had they initially been caught by the toe...more often than not.
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Re: Some toe catches on beaver with #5s
[Re: jooleyen]
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03/26/24 07:18 PM
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I think that to heavy of an anchor on your drowning give the animal a solid wack to your gear when they fight. Sort of like the reason to using a shock spring on the land critters. I feel I want the anchor to give a little with each tug that the beaver gives when fighting. just me thinking......jk
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Re: Some toe catches on beaver with #5s
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03/26/24 07:23 PM
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I think that to heavy of an anchor on your drowning give the animal a solid wack to your gear when they fight. Sort of like the reason to using a shock spring on the land critters. I feel I want the anchor to give a little with each tug that the beaver gives when fighting. just me thinking......jk Hey that's a good thought, very interesting. This rock I used as an anchor was, I believe, heavy enough to cause this problem.
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Re: Some toe catches on beaver with #5s
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03/26/24 07:24 PM
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I trap beaver for a living, i don't own any 5 longs, should tell you all you need to know. Drifter on here called it catching them on the installment plan, lol. I only want to catch them once. What do you prefer to use?
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Re: Some toe catches on beaver with #5s
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03/26/24 10:13 PM
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I have a half dozen 5 LS I use for the occasional nuisance beaver that does not like bodygrips. I dont remember ever missing any.I have had pull outs with the old #4 victor DLS because of the weakening of springs from years of use.Over the years I have taken many more beaver with #4 vic LS than I ever will with the 5's.
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Re: Some toe catches on beaver with #5s
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03/26/24 10:22 PM
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.I wonder how much of peoples choice in trap is just due to recency bias. kinda like switching broadheads because you just got unlucky enough to miss an artery and got a bad blood trail, when in reality it had not much to do with the broadhead.
I'm not saying that's the case with beaver, most folks are pretty loyal to the same few beaver traps BUT trappers are gear junkies too and they often jump on the next new trap that comes out and swear its the best thing since sliced bread.. Sometimes it is and sometimes its no better than anything we already have but its just "new"... Then after a season or two you see a ton of them show up for sale in the trap shed..
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Re: Some toe catches on beaver with #5s
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03/26/24 10:34 PM
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I've tried just about every beaver trap out there, just for experimental and fun. MB750's have been unbeatable for me. None of the Bridger 5's have performed satisfactory for me.
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Re: Some toe catches on beaver with #5s
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03/26/24 10:50 PM
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.I wonder how much of peoples choice in trap is just due to recency bias. kinda like switching broadheads because you just got unlucky enough to miss an artery and got a bad blood trail, when in reality it had not much to do with the broadhead.
I'm not saying that's the case with beaver, most folks are pretty loyal to the same few beaver traps BUT trappers are gear junkies too and they often jump on the next new trap that comes out and swear its the best thing since sliced bread.. Sometimes it is and sometimes its no better than anything we already have but its just "new"... Then after a season or two you see a ton of them show up for sale in the trap shed.. This^^^ is very true!
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Re: Some toe catches on beaver with #5s
[Re: goldy]
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03/26/24 10:51 PM
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I've tried just about every beaver trap out there, just for experimental and fun. MB750's have been unbeatable for me. None of the Bridger 5's have performed satisfactory for me. I'm leaning back towards 750s being my go-to trap.
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Re: Some toe catches on beaver with #5s
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03/26/24 11:00 PM
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I've tried just about every beaver trap out there, just for experimental and fun. MB750's have been unbeatable for me. None of the Bridger 5's have performed satisfactory for me. I'm leaning back towards 750s being my go-to trap. Yea, I like my beaver footholds. I admit that, I like using different ones but I have more 750's by far..They are like a dependable old tractor. They just flat work, strong as heck and lock up solid, almost too solid sometimes...workhorse trap
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