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4 Tanned Rats BOCO System... #8108731
03/26/24 11:46 PM
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Here are 4 rats that were from last season 2022/2023 Season. I followed BOCO's process, except for the final dryer treatment.

You will notice that the second from the right has some damage on the left hind leg. This rat was caught in a coil 1.5 in a coon set by the hind leg and was able to crawl up on some floating weeds and tore his leg up pretty good.

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Garry-


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Re: 4 Tanned Rats BOCO System... [Re: Actor] #8108738
03/27/24 12:00 AM
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Those look good Gary. Wish we had more rats around here.

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Re: 4 Tanned Rats BOCO System... [Re: Actor] #8108777
03/27/24 06:17 AM
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Thank you... we don't have many left around here either.

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Re: 4 Tanned Rats BOCO System... [Re: Actor] #8108786
03/27/24 06:50 AM
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Nice job, those look great.

Re: 4 Tanned Rats BOCO System... [Re: Actor] #8108812
03/27/24 07:44 AM
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Looks good! How’s the hide look? Gonna try it this spring on some stuff.

Last edited by Shakeyjake; 03/27/24 07:45 AM.
Re: 4 Tanned Rats BOCO System... [Re: Actor] #8108827
03/27/24 08:18 AM
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Nice job, Garry. How pliable are they?

Re: 4 Tanned Rats BOCO System... [Re: Actor] #8108850
03/27/24 09:20 AM
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Looks great! What commercial tanning oil did you use?

Re: 4 Tanned Rats BOCO System... [Re: Actor] #8108881
03/27/24 10:12 AM
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I would say they are 85 to 90% as pliable as a professional tannery. I am keep them separated from others, because I may try and find some sawdust and run them through the dryer steps. I don't know for sure where I can buy sawdust.

As far as the oil I used... TruBond 1000B and in my spray bottle for the 50/50 oil water mix, I used TruBond Lubri-Stretch 2000. It is used in taxidermy on old previously tanned skins that have stiffened, to rejuvenate them.

Garry-


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Re: 4 Tanned Rats BOCO System... [Re: Actor] #8108886
03/27/24 10:16 AM
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Any farm and ranch supply sells wood chips for bedding horses etc. I wonder if a pet store would have finer shavings aka near saw dust.

If not a lumber yard that saws material to length probably would loved to give you a 5 gal bucket of it.


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Re: 4 Tanned Rats BOCO System... [Re: Actor] #8108889
03/27/24 10:22 AM
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Tractor supply has 2 grades of bedding, regular sized wood chips and a finer grade more like sawdust. Any school woodshops still in your area?,We don't, but I'm sure they will give you as much as you need free.

Re: 4 Tanned Rats BOCO System... [Re: Actor] #8108924
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Nice job on them.


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Re: 4 Tanned Rats BOCO System... [Re: Actor] #8109027
03/27/24 01:33 PM
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they look good, thanks for sharing,

Re: 4 Tanned Rats BOCO System... [Re: Actor] #8109397
03/27/24 09:42 PM
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Thanks guys... I will try Tractor Supply... I buy all of my salt for tanning and other things throughout the year.

We used to have 5 or 6 lumber yards, but don't know of any close by. As far as school shops... HA! they don't have anything like that any more. I ask a school principal about it a couple years ago ... he told me the liability was to high... phhhhhhttttttt! We had foundry where we worked melting aluminum, and lead, planners, routers, jointers, table saws, both metal and wood lathes. You name it we had it. That was Jr. High and high school.

Wimps!

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Re: 4 Tanned Rats BOCO System... [Re: Actor] #8109523
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Originally Posted by Actor
I would say they are 85 to 90% as pliable as a professional tannery. I am keep them separated from others, because I may try and find some sawdust and run them through the dryer steps. I don't know for sure where I can buy sawdust.

As far as the oil I used... TruBond 1000B and in my spray bottle for the 50/50 oil water mix, I used TruBond Lubri-Stretch 2000. It is used in taxidermy on old previously tanned skins that have stiffened, to rejuvenate them.

Garry-


If you used Trubond 1000B as the tanning oil, why did you follow Boco’s method?

Last edited by Jurassic Park; 03/27/24 11:29 PM. Reason: Spelling

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Re: 4 Tanned Rats BOCO System... [Re: Jurassic Park] #8109695
03/28/24 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
Originally Posted by Actor
I would say they are 85 to 90% as pliable as a professional tannery. I am keep them separated from others, because I may try and find some sawdust and run them through the dryer steps. I don't know for sure where I can buy sawdust.

As far as the oil I used... TruBond 1000B and in my spray bottle for the 50/50 oil water mix, I used TruBond Lubri-Stretch 2000. It is used in taxidermy on old previously tanned skins that have stiffened, to rejuvenate them.

Garry-


If you used Trubond 1000B as the tanning oil, why did you follow Boco’s method?


BOCO's process has to do with the neutralizing of the pelt first (Aluminum Sulfate), TruBond 1000B is the oil with other additives. The Lubri-Stretch is also an oil, but finer.

The whole idea is to break down the fibers in the pelt so they can be easily stretched and retain that stretch once they are dry. Also the breaking down of the fiber is what gives the softness to the pelt. I, like most people don't have a fleshing machine or a ten feet high sawdust tumbler... so we have to improvise, and look for alternative methods of accomplishing the end results I want.

Thanks for asking...

Garry-

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Re: 4 Tanned Rats BOCO System... [Re: Actor] #8109749
03/28/24 11:08 AM
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Cool!

Do you have any pics of leather side Garry?

Re: 4 Tanned Rats BOCO System... [Re: Trapset] #8109779
03/28/24 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Trapset
Cool!

Do you have any pics of leather side Garry?


Here is a photo taken after second day of breaking. Still need more work at this point...

[Linked Image]

This is the first one I worked on after day 3 of breaking... still some more work before turning. Day 4 I turned them and cleaned the fur.

[Linked Image]

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Re: 4 Tanned Rats BOCO System... [Re: Actor] #8109873
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They turned out great. My son and I used Boco's method on his first muskrat and we just finished up two raccoons. Very pleased with the results from the Boco tanning process.

Re: 4 Tanned Rats BOCO System... [Re: Actor] #8109882
03/28/24 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Actor
Originally Posted by Trapset
Cool!

Do you have any pics of leather side Garry?


Here is a photo taken after second day of breaking. Still need more work at this point...

[Linked Image]

This is the first one I worked on after day 3 of breaking... still some more work before turning. Day 4 I turned them and cleaned the fur.

[Linked Image]

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That's great, Thanks!

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