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22-250 for coyote #8111240
03/30/24 12:46 PM
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Anyone using this cartridge. It’s a 1in 9 twist so 70g or better. Bullet recommendation? Looking for the least hide damage. Thanks

Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111242
03/30/24 12:51 PM
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Check out the Hornady line of cartridges they make loads with bullets from prairie dogs to deer. I’ve seen the most damage from hot hand loads with bullets that blow up near the surface or on shoulder hits making a big mess.


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Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111250
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Head over to Predator Masters. Apparently that is the “only” coyote caliber.
I just want them dead and care nothing about fur. Also wanted something hogs can still tote and die elsewhere. Even that isn’t a guarantee when aiming center mass, they still drop on the spot or don’t make it far enough from the bait site.

Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111269
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250s are bar none the best coyote cartridges made.
50/ 55 grain bullets.


swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111281
03/30/24 01:48 PM
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Myself for fur friendly bullets I've stayed towards the tougher more controlled expansion bullets. Some prefer the fragile bullets hoping for no exit and that is great when it works but rough when it doesn't. I'd rather sew up a small exit hole on every pelt than have a huge one every 5 pelt. But there's guys out there with more experience than me so take my opinion however you want

Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: bucksnbears] #8111288
03/30/24 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bucksnbears
250s are bar none the best coyote cartridges made.
50/ 55 grain bullets.

Yes

Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111305
03/30/24 02:43 PM
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40 grain V-max is all I've killed them with out of the 250.

They are far from fur friendly.

Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111311
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I shoot 55 gr ballistic tips most of the time. My son shoots a lot of coyotes and he shoots Sierra 52 gr hollow points. He doesn't get a fraction of the fur damage i get. I'm going to try them this next winter. I only shoot around 20 or so a winter. He calls a lot and takes around 50 a winter, not much fur damage at all

Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111319
03/30/24 03:19 PM
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60 gr Sierra hollow point was fur friendly out of a 243 running about 3100 mv.


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Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111328
03/30/24 03:41 PM
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52, 53, 55 bthp

Sierra

Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Marty B] #8111336
03/30/24 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Marty B
52, 53, 55 bthp

Sierra


Yep. 52 or 53 grn Sierra Match Kings.
52s are the boat tail version and the 53s are not. That's the only difference between them. Speer makes an equivalent in the 52 grn that's just as good.

Best fur friendly bullet out there for 22 centerfire IMO.

Through the years I've seen them loaded as factory ammo. I can't remember by who though.


Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111342
03/30/24 04:09 PM
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I don’t remember who’s bullet he uses but Less Johnson kills a pile of coyotes with a 52 gr. Boat tail hollow points out of his 22-250. I’ve found that just because you can shoot 4,000 ft/sec. doesn’t mean you should . For accuracy sake , and pelt damage , slow it down .

Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111351
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Lol, Wanna be have you ever seen a coyote with fur ? I’m going to send a coyote to a buddy of mine in Florida because he has never seen one.

Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111356
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Stay away from those bullets made to explode prairie dogs.
High speed/ frangible bullets and hitting bone is a disaster. [Linked Image]
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swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111392
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I have had pretty good luck with 50 grain Nosler varmint ballistic tips. Used to use the sierra matchking for years and years but had a run where I was getting fist sized exits on broadside shot through the ribs coyotes so I switched to Nosler. Not sure if I just got a bad box or what

Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111412
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I was and still am a big fan of the no longer sold 52gr Amax. Always had acceptable results and accuracy. No bullet is 100% fur friendly all the time. If you shoot numbers of coyotes you will see. Sure, if you shoot a couple every few years you may have experienced a couple perfect results. But depending on angle, distance, bone, outcomes will vary. Death is my first concern, then hopefully no or very little sewing…


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Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111442
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I like a .243 best on the bigger eastern dogs.... .22-.250 will get it done most of the time, but it's a little light in the britches on out there, IMO.


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Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111445
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I've tried many different bullets from 40/ 60 grains.
Unless they quite making them, I will be a Super Fan of Sierra 55 grain boattail softpoints. GameKings. #1365.
Have shot 100s of coyotes from every angle (important) wink and they just flat out work.
When I used to run n gun in tournaments, I'd giggle ( under my breath) when I knew some of the teams were shooting V Max bullets. When minutes count " $$$", I want them dead where they stood, not wasting time chasing cripples.
There is nothing a crappy bullet will do then a good bullet can't.
Other then save a few bucks.

I load mine at about 3650 fps.


swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: ky_coyote_hunter] #8111446
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Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
I like a .243 best on the bigger eastern dogs.... .22-.250 will get it done most of the time, but it's a little light in the britches on out there, IMO.

laugh laugh whistle


swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111451
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Better stick to bucksnbears ace. whistle


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Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111453
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Used to think and feel the 22-250 was the best for dog hunting, but learned its just a reason not to try anything else !!

I have many calibers do the job on dogs, none better now since I have a 204, simply has everything the 250 doesn’t.

Stays on target at high magnification, hardly a kick, awesome killing range, shoot solids it will not leave giant
Exits, nope 250 as far as Im concerned is now my lender rifle for bring alongs, no changing my mind don’t bother
Trying !!


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Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111455
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I’ve shot a lot of coyotes with the Nosler 77 grain custom competition bullet with fairly good luck. Good wind bucking bullet and as long as you stay off major bone damage is fairly minimal.

Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: GritGuy] #8111456
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Originally Posted by GritGuy
Used to think and feel the 22-250 was the best for dog hunting, but learned its just a reason not to try anything else !!

I have many calibers do the job on dogs, none better now since I have a 204, simply has everything the 250 doesn’t.

Stays on target at high magnification, hardly a kick, awesome killing range, shoot solids it will not leave giant
Exits, nope 250 as far as Im concerned is now my lender rifle for bring alongs, no changing my mind don’t bother
Trying !!


Hunting buddy has a .204, still amazed at what that cartridge can do...Extremely accurate to boot.


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Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: bucksnbears] #8111480
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Originally Posted by bucksnbears
Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
I like a .243 best on the bigger eastern dogs.... .22-.250 will get it done most of the time, but it's a little light in the britches on out there, IMO.

laugh laugh whistle

I'll agree with ky on that one. But if I'm going to use a 22-250 I agree with you on bullet choice, Sierra GameKing softpoints. My 22 centerfires love V-Max bullets, super accurate, but I have figured out not to use them on anything but ground squirrels if I want to retrieve everything I shoot. Plus they are often far from fur friendly.

If I was buying a gun specifically for coyote hunting it would probably be a 243. I don't own one, but have seen good results with them, and with the right bullets they are fairly fur friendly. I've shot coyotes with everything from 22 long rifle to 45/70 and overall have not been completely satisfied with any of the 22 calibers I have tried (22 lr, 22 mag, 22 Hornet, 218 Bee imp, 223, 22-250). Since I don't own a 24 or 25 caliber rifle, the 260 is what I grab, it anchors them, but you are going to be putting a few stitches in. Anything bigger than that is usually pretty rough on fur.

Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111507
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22-250 fur bullet was the question!
Nosler Ballistic Tip in 40 or 50 gr. depending on distance being shot. I like the 40 gr. but does drop off faster and wind has more effect on it than the 50gr. Fine fur bullet.
Mostly I shoot the Barnes Triple Shock 53 gr. Accurate, hits hard with small pass through hole. Cost is about twice of others. I am a believer in them.
I find the 22-250 does best with 40 - 55 gr. bullets at around 3650 fps + -. The lite ones can be pushed faster but accuracy suffers. 3600 - 3650 seems to be the sweet spot for the caliber.
Fairly sure Less Johnson shoots Hornady pills.

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Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111522
03/30/24 08:33 PM
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Most of the heavy .22 cal bullets are heavy jacketed types that will likely behave mostly like a FMJ.

Be prepared for lots of runners.

Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111524
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Agreed, I run my Amax’s right around 3600fps.


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Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111525
03/30/24 08:38 PM
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My three favorites are the 50 or 55 grain Nosler ballistic tips (NOTHING like a v-max), or the 52 grain Sierra HPs.

I don’t like v-max, blitzkings, varmint grenades, etc, especially the “lighter” ones.

Seems 3600-3650 is the sweet spot for terminal performance with the Noslers.

Just because you can throw them at 3900, doesn’t mean you should.

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Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111535
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Nosler Bt's are purty good.


swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111543
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I am very pleased with the performance of the 36 grain Varmint Grenades. I was shooting them at an estimated 4200 ft/s. If you hit them head on or broadside in the chest there is no exit hole and it is instant death. It turns their insides to mush. If I want to keep the pelts, I wouldn’t pick anything else. Just like any bullet, if you hit a lot of bone, you will have damage. If you do your part and put the little Grenades where you want them, you will be pleased.

Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111561
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what boone said


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Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111594
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I have been shooting Hornaday 55gr spiral points for decades. They do the job and bullet is commonly found under the hide on the far side.
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Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111769
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Pelt wrecker


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Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111807
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Of course in the current state of the market, who cares about fur damage?

They aren’t worth the sweet equity to get em back to the truck!

Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111857
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I used 52 gr. Speer Hollowpoints for years, they did good, still came down to shot placement. Finally settled on Nosler 55 gr ballistic tips. Did wonderful on Cats and Coyotes. Bought enough for the rest of my shooting days. Good for Turkey shoots too.

Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111952
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Originally Posted by Miley
Anyone using this cartridge. It’s a 1in 9 twist so 70g or better. Bullet recommendation? Looking for the least hide damage. Thanks


I shoot 45 and 50 gr jhp or lite jacketed sp bullets, pushing 3800/3900 fps; but my 22-250 has a 1:12 twist rate. I stay away from anything that has a piece of plastic shoved up it's nose, to much fur damage from rapid expansion in my personal opinion, that just me.

With the 1:9 twist you will need to use heavier projectiles. Too heavy a jacket and you'll be hunting with what acts like a solid, shots going straight through with little expansion, knocking them down but not putting them out. Slow velocity will be the key with the heavier bullets. Exit holes can be quite large especially if bone is shattered. If your firearm will shoot the 55 or 60 gr HP that's what I would chose to use. But, YMMV.


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Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Boone Liane] #8111964
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Originally Posted by Boone Liane
Of course in the current state of the market, who cares about fur damage?

They aren’t worth the sweet equity to get em back to the truck!

Yeppers so all I feel after wracking em with my .220 swift is a bit of recoil.


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Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8111988
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If I was competition calling I would use my old 270. not a lot of recoil and it bucks the wind better


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Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8112071
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.22-250 - 45 gr white box Winchester HP for me. I've see very little fur damage at any ranges with one notable exception but it was a mangy dog anyway.

Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: danny clifton] #8112123
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
If I was competition calling I would use my old 270. not a lot of recoil and it bucks the wind better

How much better Danny. smile
I've shot several sub 1" 4 shot groups at 300 yards with a plain Jane Savage 25itty.
Your .270 do that?..didn't think so. wink


swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8112239
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fortunately coyotes are bigger than that

whats a plain Jane Savage 25itty.


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Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: danny clifton] #8112240
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
fortunately coyotes are bigger than that

whats a plain Jane Savage 25itty.

25itty is a poor mans windy pelt wrecker ,back in the fox days they ruined a lot of fox


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Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8112265
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I mentioned the BARNS TSX 53gr. above. It has no lead so to get the weight it is longer. Long like heavier bullets. Seems to do.well with.average twist and also faster twists. Has the grooves which decreases friction which lowers pressures and increases speed. Expands fast, does not blow up so penetrates deep if needed. Passes through on a coyote with no weight loss. I like. Have heard of complaints of copper fouling. Not sure on this.
Boon mentioned the Sierra 53 gr. HP. Very accurate reasonable priced. I find they come apart at a deeper depth than the Noslers, therefore more chance of back side.damage. I have probably shot.more of the Sierra's than any other bullet but have stopped using them for fur. Barnes and Nosler for me.
Haven't used the Hornady ones. If Less Johnson uses them, they are probably good.
I strongly agree with Boon on V-max, Blitz king and varmint grenades. They lack either on accuracy or damage.

Just some of my thoughts.

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Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8112384
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Since the OP asked specifically about heavier .22 cal bullet (personally I wouldn’t but hey)…..


IF I were to be looking to develop a coyote load using heavy .22s, I’d be looking VERY closely at the 73 and 75 grain Hornady ELD-Match bullets.

I’ve got to be close to 300 coyotes with my 6 Creedmoor now, shooting the 108 ELD-Ms, and I’m just ecstatic with the performance. I’ve only had five “issues”, and two of those would have been issues no matter what, just poor hits.

And while I wouldn’t call them “fur friendly” (but again, $20 coyotes so who cares), they are surprisingly not that bad when it comes to damage for the most part.

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They also make a 62 grain ELD-VT which is new which might be worth a try.

Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8112393
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I used to get coyotes from some guys who hunt them hard with hounds. I told them I didn't want any that were shot with 22-250s; huge holes in most of them. Maybe use FMJ bullets, not soft nosed ones?The ones shot with 223s were OK most of the time.


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Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8112398
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You’re spot on Boone, the ELD replaced the AMAX in most calibers. Something with the tip heating up?? But performance wise I agree. I bought a couple cases of the Amax’s when I learned they were being replaced. I am good til I can’t see them anymore…. Lol. It must be a blast living in a target rich environment.. Keep up the good work and thanks for you our insight. I will be interested in seeing how the 62 ELD-VT pans out myself, may have to play around and see first hand. Regarding the heavies, I’d go with something with minimal expansion and hope the pass thru doesn’t find bone, it’s about all you can do really.


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Boone, what kind of rifle is your 6mm? I love mine. Ive shot a pile of coyotes with the 87 grain vmax and some with the 103 grain eldx. No issues with either. The vmax are far from fur friendly.

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It’s a custom built off a 700 action.

20” bartlein barrel in an 8 twist.

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Sure is odd how different folks using the same bullet get different results. Most of the time nosler ballistic tip 55 grains make a pencil hole entry and no exit for me in 22-250.


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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Sure is odd how different folks using the same bullet get different results. Most of the time nosler ballistic tip 55 grains make a pencil hole entry and no exit for me in 22-250.

Why my posts regarding bullets where asked in the way they are.


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Speed of the bullet has a lot to do with damage. Match the hatch!

Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: danny clifton] #8112585
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Sure is odd how different folks using the same bullet get different results. Most of the time nosler ballistic tip 55 grains make a pencil hole entry and no exit for me in 22-250.


I see different results with the same load/bullet based on the time of the year. Hide thickness, fur density plays a factor as well. Those vmax behave a lot different when they punch through a July coyote vs a December coyote. And that’s a fact.

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I've been shooting the 45 grain Barnes TSX-very fast-4100 f.p.s. plus.( 22-250) Haven't had any runners yet out of about 30 plus coyotes-stones them pretty hard. Solid copper that expands to their patented x SHAPE. Did some Texas heart shots and had exits out the front of the chest-perfect little X shape-pretty impressed so far. Broadside shoulder punches-no bone blow-ups etc yet.

No bullet is perfect for what we are all wanting-perfect fur bullet etc..I do know a guy that has shot literally thousands of coyotes and all he ever used was a 220 swift with FMJ's for like 40 years-and yes he has shot thousands-no B.S.-HE NOW SHOOTS A .204 and absolutely loves it.

he's a fur guy

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I shoot 2 loads in mine.
#1 .40 grain Hornady vmax over 38 grains of H380. This blows up on the fur if the coyote is closer than 70 yards. Past 400 yards it does not expand well and is inconsistent.
#2 .50 grain Barnes Blue Bullet over 38 grains of H380. great penetration and does not blow them up. I had shot a lot of them closer than 50 yards and it just passes through but kills them with the shock wave. The furthest I shot one is 497 yards and it killed it dead and did not expand. I hit it twice. Second shot through the neck while he was setting looking at me after I burned him behind the ribs.

I picked these for accuracy. My .22-250 is an old Parker Hale 110 bolt action. It has a 1 in 12 twist rate so it likes the lighter bullets. It will not shoot a 55 grain bullet accurately and the heavier ones key hole. When this barrel finally goes bad I'll get a faster one. This gun doesn't like A-max, Berger VLD, anything with a plastic tip accept those .40 grain Hornady ballistic tips. It does ok with old style Speer TNT .53 grain hollow points but the two mentioned for me are the most accurate in this gun. I like the smack down affect when things work the way they should. Never had one get up from it.

My other .22-250 is a .19 Badger but it is only good at the smack down to about 300 yards.


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Re: 22-250 for coyote [Re: Miley] #8113179
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Thanks gents! Being that it is a 1:9 twist the reloading books say start at the upper 60 gr bullets. I guess he will try the lighter bullets most recommend to see if they will shoot! Definitely going to be handloads and I’m sure he wants the hides. I’ll tell him to start with the hornady eld. Again thanks fellas!

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Originally Posted by Miley
Thanks gents! Being that it is a 1:9 twist the reloading books say start at the upper 60 gr bullets. I guess he will try the lighter bullets most recommend to see if they will shoot! Definitely going to be handloads and I’m sure he wants the hides. I’ll tell him to start with the hornady eld. Again thanks fellas!



I have an 8 twist that shoots 50 grainers really really well.

So don’t be afraid to try the mid weight bullets.

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