Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: Miley]
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03/30/24 12:51 PM
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Check out the Hornady line of cartridges they make loads with bullets from prairie dogs to deer. I’ve seen the most damage from hot hand loads with bullets that blow up near the surface or on shoulder hits making a big mess.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: Miley]
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03/30/24 01:34 PM
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bucksnbears
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250s are bar none the best coyote cartridges made. 50/ 55 grain bullets.
swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo
You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: bucksnbears]
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03/30/24 02:00 PM
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250s are bar none the best coyote cartridges made. 50/ 55 grain bullets. Yes
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: Miley]
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03/30/24 03:19 PM
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60 gr Sierra hollow point was fur friendly out of a 243 running about 3100 mv.
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: Miley]
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03/30/24 03:41 PM
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: Marty B]
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03/30/24 03:57 PM
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Yep. 52 or 53 grn Sierra Match Kings. 52s are the boat tail version and the 53s are not. That's the only difference between them. Speer makes an equivalent in the 52 grn that's just as good. Best fur friendly bullet out there for 22 centerfire IMO. Through the years I've seen them loaded as factory ammo. I can't remember by who though.
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: Miley]
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03/30/24 06:12 PM
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I was and still am a big fan of the no longer sold 52gr Amax. Always had acceptable results and accuracy. No bullet is 100% fur friendly all the time. If you shoot numbers of coyotes you will see. Sure, if you shoot a couple every few years you may have experienced a couple perfect results. But depending on angle, distance, bone, outcomes will vary. Death is my first concern, then hopefully no or very little sewing…
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: Miley]
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03/30/24 06:50 PM
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I like a .243 best on the bigger eastern dogs.... .22-.250 will get it done most of the time, but it's a little light in the britches on out there, IMO.
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: Miley]
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03/30/24 06:55 PM
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I've tried many different bullets from 40/ 60 grains. Unless they quite making them, I will be a Super Fan of Sierra 55 grain boattail softpoints. GameKings. #1365. Have shot 100s of coyotes from every angle (important)  and they just flat out work. When I used to run n gun in tournaments, I'd giggle ( under my breath) when I knew some of the teams were shooting V Max bullets. When minutes count " $$$", I want them dead where they stood, not wasting time chasing cripples. There is nothing a crappy bullet will do then a good bullet can't. Other then save a few bucks. I load mine at about 3650 fps.
swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo
You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: Miley]
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03/30/24 07:04 PM
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Used to think and feel the 22-250 was the best for dog hunting, but learned its just a reason not to try anything else !!
I have many calibers do the job on dogs, none better now since I have a 204, simply has everything the 250 doesn’t.
Stays on target at high magnification, hardly a kick, awesome killing range, shoot solids it will not leave giant Exits, nope 250 as far as Im concerned is now my lender rifle for bring alongs, no changing my mind don’t bother Trying !!
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: GritGuy]
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03/30/24 07:10 PM
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Used to think and feel the 22-250 was the best for dog hunting, but learned its just a reason not to try anything else !!
I have many calibers do the job on dogs, none better now since I have a 204, simply has everything the 250 doesn’t.
Stays on target at high magnification, hardly a kick, awesome killing range, shoot solids it will not leave giant Exits, nope 250 as far as Im concerned is now my lender rifle for bring alongs, no changing my mind don’t bother Trying !!
Hunting buddy has a .204, still amazed at what that cartridge can do...Extremely accurate to boot.
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: bucksnbears]
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03/30/24 07:40 PM
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I'll agree with ky on that one. But if I'm going to use a 22-250 I agree with you on bullet choice, Sierra GameKing softpoints. My 22 centerfires love V-Max bullets, super accurate, but I have figured out not to use them on anything but ground squirrels if I want to retrieve everything I shoot. Plus they are often far from fur friendly. If I was buying a gun specifically for coyote hunting it would probably be a 243. I don't own one, but have seen good results with them, and with the right bullets they are fairly fur friendly. I've shot coyotes with everything from 22 long rifle to 45/70 and overall have not been completely satisfied with any of the 22 calibers I have tried (22 lr, 22 mag, 22 Hornet, 218 Bee imp, 223, 22-250). Since I don't own a 24 or 25 caliber rifle, the 260 is what I grab, it anchors them, but you are going to be putting a few stitches in. Anything bigger than that is usually pretty rough on fur.
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: Miley]
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03/30/24 08:19 PM
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22-250 fur bullet was the question! Nosler Ballistic Tip in 40 or 50 gr. depending on distance being shot. I like the 40 gr. but does drop off faster and wind has more effect on it than the 50gr. Fine fur bullet. Mostly I shoot the Barnes Triple Shock 53 gr. Accurate, hits hard with small pass through hole. Cost is about twice of others. I am a believer in them. I find the 22-250 does best with 40 - 55 gr. bullets at around 3650 fps + -. The lite ones can be pushed faster but accuracy suffers. 3600 - 3650 seems to be the sweet spot for the caliber. Fairly sure Less Johnson shoots Hornady pills.
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: Miley]
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Agreed, I run my Amax’s right around 3600fps.
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: Miley]
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03/30/24 08:38 PM
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My three favorites are the 50 or 55 grain Nosler ballistic tips (NOTHING like a v-max), or the 52 grain Sierra HPs.
I don’t like v-max, blitzkings, varmint grenades, etc, especially the “lighter” ones.
Seems 3600-3650 is the sweet spot for terminal performance with the Noslers.
Just because you can throw them at 3900, doesn’t mean you should.
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: Miley]
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03/30/24 08:55 PM
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Nosler Bt's are purty good.
swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo
You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: Miley]
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03/30/24 10:20 PM
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I have been shooting Hornaday 55gr spiral points for decades. They do the job and bullet is commonly found under the hide on the far side. Roy
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: Miley]
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03/31/24 04:15 PM
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Anyone using this cartridge. It’s a 1in 9 twist so 70g or better. Bullet recommendation? Looking for the least hide damage. Thanks I shoot 45 and 50 gr jhp or lite jacketed sp bullets, pushing 3800/3900 fps; but my 22-250 has a 1:12 twist rate. I stay away from anything that has a piece of plastic shoved up it's nose, to much fur damage from rapid expansion in my personal opinion, that just me. With the 1:9 twist you will need to use heavier projectiles. Too heavy a jacket and you'll be hunting with what acts like a solid, shots going straight through with little expansion, knocking them down but not putting them out. Slow velocity will be the key with the heavier bullets. Exit holes can be quite large especially if bone is shattered. If your firearm will shoot the 55 or 60 gr HP that's what I would chose to use. But, YMMV.
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: Boone Liane]
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03/31/24 04:40 PM
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Of course in the current state of the market, who cares about fur damage?
They aren’t worth the sweet equity to get em back to the truck! Yeppers so all I feel after wracking em with my .220 swift is a bit of recoil.
John 3/16
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: Miley]
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03/31/24 05:19 PM
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If I was competition calling I would use my old 270. not a lot of recoil and it bucks the wind better
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: danny clifton]
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03/31/24 09:20 PM
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If I was competition calling I would use my old 270. not a lot of recoil and it bucks the wind better How much better Danny.  I've shot several sub 1" 4 shot groups at 300 yards with a plain Jane Savage 25itty. Your .270 do that?..didn't think so. 
swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo
You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: Miley]
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04/01/24 05:19 AM
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fortunately coyotes are bigger than that
whats a plain Jane Savage 25itty.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: danny clifton]
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04/01/24 05:32 AM
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fortunately coyotes are bigger than that
whats a plain Jane Savage 25itty. 25itty is a poor mans windy pelt wrecker ,back in the fox days they ruined a lot of fox
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: Miley]
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04/01/24 06:52 AM
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I mentioned the BARNS TSX 53gr. above. It has no lead so to get the weight it is longer. Long like heavier bullets. Seems to do.well with.average twist and also faster twists. Has the grooves which decreases friction which lowers pressures and increases speed. Expands fast, does not blow up so penetrates deep if needed. Passes through on a coyote with no weight loss. I like. Have heard of complaints of copper fouling. Not sure on this. Boon mentioned the Sierra 53 gr. HP. Very accurate reasonable priced. I find they come apart at a deeper depth than the Noslers, therefore more chance of back side.damage. I have probably shot.more of the Sierra's than any other bullet but have stopped using them for fur. Barnes and Nosler for me. Haven't used the Hornady ones. If Less Johnson uses them, they are probably good. I strongly agree with Boon on V-max, Blitz king and varmint grenades. They lack either on accuracy or damage.
Just some of my thoughts.
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: Miley]
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I used to get coyotes from some guys who hunt them hard with hounds. I told them I didn't want any that were shot with 22-250s; huge holes in most of them. Maybe use FMJ bullets, not soft nosed ones?The ones shot with 223s were OK most of the time.
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: Miley]
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You’re spot on Boone, the ELD replaced the AMAX in most calibers. Something with the tip heating up?? But performance wise I agree. I bought a couple cases of the Amax’s when I learned they were being replaced. I am good til I can’t see them anymore…. Lol. It must be a blast living in a target rich environment.. Keep up the good work and thanks for you our insight. I will be interested in seeing how the 62 ELD-VT pans out myself, may have to play around and see first hand. Regarding the heavies, I’d go with something with minimal expansion and hope the pass thru doesn’t find bone, it’s about all you can do really.
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: Miley]
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04/01/24 04:49 PM
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Sure is odd how different folks using the same bullet get different results. Most of the time nosler ballistic tip 55 grains make a pencil hole entry and no exit for me in 22-250.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: danny clifton]
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Sure is odd how different folks using the same bullet get different results. Most of the time nosler ballistic tip 55 grains make a pencil hole entry and no exit for me in 22-250. Why my posts regarding bullets where asked in the way they are.
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: danny clifton]
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04/01/24 07:01 PM
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Sure is odd how different folks using the same bullet get different results. Most of the time nosler ballistic tip 55 grains make a pencil hole entry and no exit for me in 22-250. I see different results with the same load/bullet based on the time of the year. Hide thickness, fur density plays a factor as well. Those vmax behave a lot different when they punch through a July coyote vs a December coyote. And that’s a fact.
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: Miley]
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04/02/24 04:40 PM
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I shoot 2 loads in mine. #1 .40 grain Hornady vmax over 38 grains of H380. This blows up on the fur if the coyote is closer than 70 yards. Past 400 yards it does not expand well and is inconsistent. #2 .50 grain Barnes Blue Bullet over 38 grains of H380. great penetration and does not blow them up. I had shot a lot of them closer than 50 yards and it just passes through but kills them with the shock wave. The furthest I shot one is 497 yards and it killed it dead and did not expand. I hit it twice. Second shot through the neck while he was setting looking at me after I burned him behind the ribs.
I picked these for accuracy. My .22-250 is an old Parker Hale 110 bolt action. It has a 1 in 12 twist rate so it likes the lighter bullets. It will not shoot a 55 grain bullet accurately and the heavier ones key hole. When this barrel finally goes bad I'll get a faster one. This gun doesn't like A-max, Berger VLD, anything with a plastic tip accept those .40 grain Hornady ballistic tips. It does ok with old style Speer TNT .53 grain hollow points but the two mentioned for me are the most accurate in this gun. I like the smack down affect when things work the way they should. Never had one get up from it.
My other .22-250 is a .19 Badger but it is only good at the smack down to about 300 yards.
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Re: 22-250 for coyote
[Re: Miley]
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04/03/24 04:23 PM
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Thanks gents! Being that it is a 1:9 twist the reloading books say start at the upper 60 gr bullets. I guess he will try the lighter bullets most recommend to see if they will shoot! Definitely going to be handloads and I’m sure he wants the hides. I’ll tell him to start with the hornady eld. Again thanks fellas! I have an 8 twist that shoots 50 grainers really really well. So don’t be afraid to try the mid weight bullets.
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