A case for non Lethal less Lethal

You need to walk a mile in somebody's shoes before you judge.
Them.

All these experts, yet none are actual LEO’s…very interesting.

I will tell you what I do know Wanna Be. When a civilian shoots somebody that doesn't need killing, even sometimes when they shoot somebody that does, they end up in prison. Why is L.E. treated differently?????

Easy to Monday morning QB any of this stuff.

Think about the video of the kid with the MAGA hat on and a possom grin while the elder Native American man was is in his face. When I first saw the clip, I would have liked to smack the punk for being so disrespectful. Then I saw the entire clip and realized how badly I interpreted the encounter.

I view these clips as no different. Was it as black and white as the video portrays? What was the communication prior to getting on the scene? Unknown occupants who are armed? If they are at fault, I hope they are held accountable, but I would like to ensure that the facts play out before we assume all officers are bad.

The dad who shoots his kid during Spring Gobbler season becuase they split up and he shot at the bush moving doesn't make all of us bad hunters or fathers. The YouTube trapper who didn't anchor his DP correctly and loses a coon and a trap up a tree doesn't make us all bad trappers.

Watching one or 3 dozen videos of someone engaged in the profession doesn't make me assume that everyone is that profession is bad. I don't know how anyone could come to that conclusion.

Danny you will never get through to the boot lickers. Put a uniform on a thug and they gladly bow down, submit, and wouldn't say a thing if there wife and daughters were abused by them.

I have no issue with cops, it's not a job I would want. But many cops today shouldn't be cops.

Probably a case of rushing to judgment in the heat of the moment. All cops should lose their jobs at a minimum. Most are better trained than that, I would hope.

I dont either

I do conclude that LE are not held to the same standard as civilians. I do conclude that LE is trained to ignore and circumnavigate peoples rights. To bring up an old post a LE member was saying pulling someone over for a ball hitch was legal.

Alot of cops watch TV series and movies and think that's how reality should be.

How about the cop that unloads on his own cruiser with a person inside after a acorn falls on the roof.
Talk about being wired too tight.

At least he resigned afterwards. Hopefully he just doesn't jump to another department.

Lots of examples of bad shootings by cops.
We are in a bad place, hard to get decent applicants to be a cop, hard to get rid of bad cops.
Its going to continue to get worse.

I don’t think the LEOs convicted in the George Floyd’s case would agree. Derick Chauvin is serving a 22+ year sentence….last Fall he was stabbed 21 times by another prisoner.

Big brown that was a bs case. Yet things like this will be let go. There are many many more cases of wrong doing that get let go and covered up vs. cops being heald accountable let alone the few that get railroaded.

Heck the female cop that was sleeping with several other cops on the clock not long ago just got a 500 k pay out from the city. O she lost her job but got 10 years of cop pay all at once

Very good insight

Stabbing one another does seem to be a popular pass time in prison.

X3....if they gave out awards for monday morning quarterbacking, several folks on here would be getting the MVP.....

Lugnut mentioned a great YouTube channel a few weeks ago called Police Activity. A huge amount of police shootings and shootings of police are on it. I have watched a huge amount of their videos now. The police do make mistakes, often at their own expense, but by in large they do a good job in terrible situations.

Their channel is:

https://m.youtube.com/@PoliceActivity

Warning, a huge amount of death and serious physical harm is shown, from many different angles. The footage is raw, except that some bodies are blurred.

In my opinion, if you're not sympathetic to the police after watching many of the videos, something is majorly wrong with you.

Keith

Every cop I've met (and I've met hundreds of them) are "2A types" and have "accountability" for every round drilled into their heads from day 1. People screw up, that's what people do, no matter what job they do.

In case you haven't been paying attention, this isn't a time in history to "let cops walk". A big, big feather in any prosecutor's cap to imprison a cop. And they are standing on each other for that chance.

Now back to human's (no matter how good you think you are) screw up at times. But as some like to point out, one mistake, even a much smaller one than this one and we just label them all "Bad cops" because its easy and we don't have to think.

Grind that ax, man, Grind it! Don't fall off that high horse, though. It's a LONG way down.

i'm glad you found it interesting enough to watch bunch Keith. They show the good and the bad shootings, no bias.

It doesn't surprise me that YouTube demonetized their channel.

It's one of my favorite channels.

Watching the violence and the crazies some cops have to deal with give a person a different perspective on the job.

There’s certain folks on here that would definitely vote to defund the police, but would call in a second when they needed them.
LEO’s are humans like every one of us. They aren’t Gods. They aren’t without faults. All they are, are folks who stood up and answered the to serve.
Are mistakes made? Yes!
Will more mistakes be made? Yes!
I’ve said it in every LEO bashing post…why don’t y’all folks step up and join?
It comes down to training. Look at the military for an example. You take guys straight off the street and send them to boot camp, then a school, then to battle…lives are lost and mistakes are made.
Now take the folks who have experience and more/better training…SOF guys. While they still make mistakes and lose their life, it’s at an exponential less rate.
Until you put yourself in their shoes, you’re nothing more than a tabloid. I’d do this, they did this wrong, etc…Most of y’all don’t have a clue other than “think” what you might do. And to be honest, that’s all anyone can honestly say is how they THINK they would react. Until you’ve been is constant situations where that adrenaline is flooding your system you have no clue except to sit back and critique every time a police officer does anything wrong. I’ll say it again, if y’all are such professionals, step up and show us how its done.

And for the record, I don’t have the patience to be an officer. I’m not arguing with an idiot for 10min do get them to do as asked. I’m not chasing someone. And where y’all disagree…I’m going home at the end of my shift. Play stupid games and I’d give you your stupid prize.