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Beaver castor Bourbon #8114947
04/05/24 11:53 AM
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Home brewer here. Never tried it. Looking for amount of castor to cut in? Assuming added before aging. Dumb questions but totally clueless.
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Re: Beaver castor Bourbon [Re: 080808] #8114994
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Have you ever tasted castor? I would not use It In anything I would eat or drink.


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Re: Beaver castor Bourbon [Re: 080808] #8115025
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Beav, you have probably eaten plenty that had castor as an additive.

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Castoreum extract is approved by FDA and FEMA as a GRAS substance for direct addition to food as a flavoring agent. It is also approved by the Council of Europe as a food flavoring.


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There is a generalized list of castoreum contains foods. According to Be Food Smart, beaver's gland secretions can be found in alcoholic beverages, baked goods, frozen dairy products, chewing gum, sweets, meat products, pudding, gelatin, ice cream, vanilla flavouring and raspberry-flavoured food.


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Re: Beaver castor Bourbon [Re: 080808] #8115047
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Well They must use something to disguise the taste. Or It's used In minute amounts. I tasted some raw castor once and I was BAD.


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Re: Beaver castor Bourbon [Re: 080808] #8115096
04/05/24 04:37 PM
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I am not a beer drinker but my sons and daughter enjoy a brew or two occasionally and especially like trying a variety of brews. One of the members on here does a fair bit of home brewing and likes to try different craft beer. I took several varieties from several craft breweries in NC to him at an NTA convention and he gave me a variety of his home brew in return. I brought it home and my kids had a blind tasting. Their favorite was his homebrew with castor in it.


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Re: Beaver castor Bourbon [Re: 080808] #8115149
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I'm a home brewer and distiller.

I think what your asking is should you add it to the mash before you make it or to the distilled bourbon

I would add a very small amount to my mash before letting it work up and then distill it. I think it you added it to your final product it would be too harsh and bitter. The fermenting process and then the distilling should have a mellowing effect on the castor. Then age it with some charred oak.
If it tastes a little strong or bitter let it age longer. I've made some shine and charred oak chips that's taken a decade to mellow. Then BAM!! you taste it and it's finally there.
Remember to start with VERY small amounts. You could add a touch more but you can't take it out.
Wish I could give you an amount but it would definitely take some experimentation
Good luck and I hope you get some more responses

I was surprised to see this post on the fur handling forum lol


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Re: Beaver castor Bourbon [Re: 080808] #8115274
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I thought I made a mistake placing this question here or maybe a moderator put it here. I placed it on Fermenters site. Funny as of now zero responses.

Re: Beaver castor Bourbon [Re: 080808] #8115496
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Turtledale. Thanks

Re: Beaver castor Bourbon [Re: The Beav] #8160683
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Well They must use something to disguise the taste. Or It's used In minute amounts. I tasted some raw castor once and I was BAD.

I hope you had a chaser after that.

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Originally Posted by The Beav
Well They must use something to disguise the taste. Or It's used In minute amounts. I tasted some raw castor once and I was BAD.

Somebody likely gave you a bite of an oil stone,lol.


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Re: Beaver castor Bourbon [Re: 080808] #8165599
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Re: Beaver castor Bourbon [Re: QuietButDeadly] #8174549
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Originally Posted by QuietButDeadly
I am not a beer drinker but my sons and daughter enjoy a brew or two occasionally and especially like trying a variety of brews. One of the members on here does a fair bit of home brewing and likes to try different craft beer. I took several varieties from several craft breweries in NC to him at an NTA convention and he gave me a variety of his home brew in return. I brought it home and my kids had a blind tasting. Their favorite was his homebrew with castor in it.


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Re: Beaver castor Bourbon [Re: 080808] #8216173
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I would absolutely buy/trade for a bottle of castor booze. I'm a sucker for weird flavors, I suppose. Let us know how it goes!

Re: Beaver castor Bourbon [Re: 080808] #8244517
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A lot of old trappers use tu put castor in gin De Kuyper for medicinal use . They had a drink when they were not feeling good.

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