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Re: OJ dead [Re: warrior] #8119560
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Worked for NBC.

Re: OJ dead [Re: Bass1] #8119564
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Originally Posted by Bass1
Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
The real trial to commence...


Not according to the KJV. Romans 6:7 "For he that is dead is freed from sin."

Another bible says: "For he who has died has been acquitted from his sins."

That refers to a believer who has been set free from the bondage of sin, not an unregenerate murderer.

Re: OJ dead [Re: warrior] #8119569
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OJ claimed to be a Christian. Just sayin. He was a murderer, almost certainly, but we all sin. And we can all be forgiven of our sins, too, including murder.

Re: OJ dead [Re: warrior] #8119579
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Isn't there a judgement for the Godly and the un Godly?

2 Corinthians 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.

Rev 20:11 Next I saw a large white throne and the one who was sitting on it. The earth and the sky fled from his presence and there was no place for them.

Re: OJ dead [Re: warrior] #8119580
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I believe that the acquittal was due to the Detective Mark Fuhrman's denial of using racist epithets and a little later the defense quoted him using the "N" word many times.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Fuhrman#Background


Note to self- Engage brain before opening mouth (or hitting the ENTER key/SUBMIT button).

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Re: OJ dead [Re: LAtrapper] #8119587
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Originally Posted by LAtrapper
I believe that the acquittal was due to the Detective Mark Fuhrman's denial of using racist epithets and a little later the defense quoted him using the "N" word many times.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Fuhrman#Background


No, haven't you read the other posts? It was a set up! OJ was framed! crazy

Re: OJ dead [Re: loosegoose] #8119589
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
OJ claimed to be a Christian. Just sayin. He was a murderer, almost certainly, but we all sin. And we can all be forgiven of our sins, too, including murder.

Your sin isn't forgiven until you strip your fig leaf. He wore his until it was too late.

Re: OJ dead [Re: nimzy] #8119590
04/11/24 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by nimzy
Originally Posted by Boco
If the glove dont fit-you must aquit.
Make sure you get a good rap lawyer if the jury is all black.


Ever skin with leather gloves?

It only works once....


That and a little pretrial weight gain and fluid intake should do the trick.

That glove trick was a gimmick.


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Re: OJ dead [Re: Posco] #8119605
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Originally Posted by Posco
Originally Posted by loosegoose
OJ claimed to be a Christian. Just sayin. He was a murderer, almost certainly, but we all sin. And we can all be forgiven of our sins, too, including murder.

Your sin isn't forgiven until you strip your fig leaf. He wore his until it was too late.

How do you know?

Re: OJ dead [Re: warrior] #8119607
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God would give him the courage to admit his crime.

Re: OJ dead [Re: warrior] #8119616
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This was enough for me

Detective Mark Fuhrman took the Fifth Amendment during the O.J. Simpson trial when asked if he had planted evidence because he wanted to avoid self-incrimination. By invoking the Fifth Amendment, individuals can refuse to answer questions in a legal proceeding if the answers could potentially expose them to criminal prosecution. This action led to significant controversy and scrutiny during the trial.


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Re: OJ dead [Re: Bruce T] #8119625
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Originally Posted by Bruce T
This was enough for me

Detective Mark Fuhrman took the Fifth Amendment during the O.J. Simpson trial when asked if he had planted evidence because he wanted to avoid self-incrimination. By invoking the Fifth Amendment, individuals can refuse to answer questions in a legal proceeding if the answers could potentially expose them to criminal prosecution. This action led to significant controversy and scrutiny during the trial.







The fith is not an admission of guilt and cannot be construed as such.


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Re: OJ dead [Re: Posco] #8119632
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Originally Posted by Posco
God would give him the courage to admit his crime.

To who? We don't have to confess our sins to anyone except God. James 5:16 tells us tp confess our sins to one another, that we may be healed, but that's clearly not an absolute for salvation. The thief on the cross said "we are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve", but didn't confess to any specific sin, nor did he specifically express repentance, though it's implied. Yet Jesus still told him that he would be with Him in paradise. More plainly, plenty of people have accepted salvation on their deathbeds, without even having the chance to confess sins, even if they wanted to.

I'm not saying the dude was or wasn't a for-sure born again christian,nobody realy knows, just that he claimed that he was.

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Re: OJ dead [Re: Gary Benson] #8119641
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Or you flex your hand and hold it stiff when trying to put the glove on,

Re: OJ dead [Re: warrior] #8119642
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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by Bruce T
This was enough for me

Detective Mark Fuhrman took the Fifth Amendment during the O.J. Simpson trial when asked if he had planted evidence because he wanted to avoid self-incrimination. By invoking the Fifth Amendment, individuals can refuse to answer questions in a legal proceeding if the answers could potentially expose them to criminal prosecution. This action led to significant controversy and scrutiny during the trial.







The fith is not an admission of guilt and cannot be construed as such.

If he was not guilty then why not simply say he did not plant evidence?That says a lot.

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He could be the worst human on earth but if he asked for forgiveness he got it. ONLY ONE unforgivable sin.....

Re: OJ dead [Re: loosegoose] #8119646
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by Posco
God would give him the courage to admit his crime.

To who? We don't have to confess our sins to anyone except God. James 5:16 tells us tp confess our sins to one another, that we may be healed, but that's clearly not an absolute for salvation. The thief on the cross said "we are punished justly, for we are getting what our deeds deserve", but didn't confess to any specific sin, nor did he specifically express repentance, though it's implied. Yet Jesus still told him that he would be with Him in paradise. More plainly, plenty of people have accepted salvation on their deathbeds, without even having the chance to confess sins, even if they wanted to.

I'm not saying the dude was or wasn't a for-sure born again christian,nobody realy knows, just that he claimed that he was.

If he knew himself at all from a Biblical perspective he would have never uttered those words.
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Re: OJ dead [Re: Foxpaw] #8119649
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Originally Posted by Foxpaw
Isn't there a judgement for the Godly and the un Godly?

2 Corinthians 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.

Rev 20:11 Next I saw a large white throne and the one who was sitting on it. The earth and the sky fled from his presence and there was no place for them.


There is a judgement between the forgiven and the unforgiven. A lot of people call themselves Christians and it means a lot of different things to different people. But there is this:

21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

The man hanging beside Jesus on the cross, was he Godly or ungodly?

I do not know the condition of OJ's soul. I saw something the other day that I thought was fascinating. When people asked if they were a good person, meaning have they done more good in their lives than bad compared to an average person, nearly 90% said they were above average. Good thing we are not depending on good works to get to Heaven.

Re: OJ dead [Re: warrior] #8119653
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Anyone that thinks OJ was innocent of murder is simply missing a lot of brain cells. Sorry if this fits you. He wrote a book titled: If I did it: confessions of a killer, come on now?


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Re: OJ dead [Re: warrior] #8119654
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Again, it is not an admission of anything. It is nothing more or less than exercising your right to remain silent.

The only issue in giving testimony in court is that of compelled testimony. You can be ordered by a judge to testify and refusal to do so can result in contempt charges. The claim of fifth amendment privilege is a defense against compelled testimony which may be prejudicial to one's own interests. In short you can not be compelled to testify against yourself.

But in the absence of actual factual statement one can not infer fact. Absence of something does not prove its existence.


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