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Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: Miley] #8130281
04/28/24 09:43 PM
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Sorry BB
Solids to mean Spitzer or boat tail's, 55, 56 grain or a bit heavier,, should have known better with picky shooters LOL

Now I actually use only Boat tails because I have a grundle of them and load my own, but either will work fine

As long as you send into the boiler, but thats not always possible I know and I have watched my share run off a ways then fall over, but where I hunt I use my wheeler to get around and always have binoc's with me if they run off, I've not failed to ride to pick one up yet after going to Boat tails with my 22-250 Ruger

I am now building a 204 on a AK frame as this caliber for me is the best I have shot dogs with yet, it will be topped with the new Pulsar Thermal day and night model just released earlier this year, after using just night vision for so many years, I am quite happy to have it, and will also be adding a Banish suppressor, I purchased at the last hunting show here. Be here in November hopefully ! I will loading for it with the Berger's at 60 grains if I remember correctly also solids, er boat tails LOL

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Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: bucksnbears] #8130282
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My favorite coyote gun is 17 Remington with 25 gr Berger match which luckily I have. As with any bullet proper placement is what anchors them but marginal shots usually pile up within 30. I know guys who do very well with 65 gr vmax and even 50’s butz it’s all shot placement. The Sierra 52 and 53 match holow points behind the shoulder are quarter size exits as is the 1360 and 1365 Sierras. I prefer the 1360. Anyone saying solids arnt fur friendly either hasn’t shot many coyotes or is a bad shot.

Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: Trapper7] #8130296
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
Would a FMJ be a good option?

No, when we lost our fox and coyote took over I was still using fmjbt Sierra
Some died instantly, some ran for miles hit through the lungs

Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: bucksnbears] #8130310
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Originally Posted by bucksnbears
Originally Posted by jbyrd63
22-250 fur friendly? Don't go in the same sentence. UNLESS you shoot cast bullets. MIGHT I say MIGHT only have to sew half of them. Lot of mentioned bullets will shoot well ,but not blowing a hole under 150 yards good luck.

Hey Wolfie. Can / will you put this great post/ info in the Archives??

So much valuable info that should be shared for years to come. laugh

Byrd, would you kindly post a link on where you get your molds from to make the cast bullets?
Thanks.


Mouth I’ve spent more hours reloading / testing shooting before I was 25 than you have your entire life. Started when I was 13 in my dads workshop. Every spare minute I had I was researching molding tinkering with loads. Gave up on my 22-250 for fur. That’s when I bought my 222 Remington. Yes back in the late 70’s didn’t have very few of these “modern “ types of bullets. Elderly gentleman down the road cast all my bullets I tested. As mentioned earlier “fur friendly “ to some might be junk to others. But I’ll tell you what I settled on for my 222. 50 grain hornady SX. Head neck or ribs yotes won’t get out of site. Plus in bobcat or little gray fox shows up you don’t destroy the pelt.

Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: Miley] #8130311
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Hey bucks google Waldo ( Wally) Tarter see what you can find. Any serious bench rest or precision shooters on here will know his name. That’s who helped me. If you can read you might realize I do have a clue about reloading/ shooting

He built a rifle in 22 ppc that we used to shoot aspirin tablets at 175 yards.

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Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: Miley] #8130312
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Since you can’t type I’ll just give you one that is easier to find
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Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: Miley] #8130361
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Well, that answers that.

Guess I need to get a mold and start casting bullets.
Anyone wanna buy a couple 1000 Sierra 55s?


swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: Miley] #8130381
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Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: Miley] #8130509
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Uncle ice cream; how many coyotes would you say you’ve called in and fur friendly harvested? Is the coyote count higher than the aspirin count? This is some good stuff, and I definitely want to dive deeper into this topic!


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Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: Miley] #8130545
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Like I said earlier. In this part of the country "saving the fur" isn't the reason to call and kill coyotes. Stinking things aren't worth anything . Too many have mites and rub spots on their fur. Don't call as much anymore but I'd say couple hundred more or less. Killed 31 one year but that included 5 while deer hunting. Shot them with a variety of calibers that year. Killed 2 with 50 cal muzzle loader. Funny how they fell in their tracks even tho they only had a 50 cal hole on both sides. couple with a 22 mag. But most with 6 mm. Wasn't worried about the fur. I'll try to find you some pics. Didn't have I phone back then. My old bag phone didn't take pics.......

Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: jbyrd63] #8130584
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Like I said earlier. In this part of the country "saving the fur" isn't the reason to call and..


Hmm, I don't see where you said that

whistle

How many have you shot with bullets that you cast?


swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: Miley] #8130585
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I can tell you what not to use…165gr Tipped CoreLokts out of a .308. Not fur friendly at all. But, no matter where they’re hit, it anchors them. And if a coon or possum is the only target of opportunity, don’t even bother to get a pic. Let it lay where it falls, buzzards will have it cleaned up before noon the next day.

Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: jbyrd63] #8130587
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Like I said earlier. In this part of the country "saving the fur" isn't the reason to call and kill coyotes. Stinking things aren't worth anything . Too many have mites and rub spots on their fur. Don't call as much anymore but I'd say couple hundred more or less. Killed 31 one year but that included 5 while deer hunting. Shot them with a variety of calibers that year. Killed 2 with 50 cal muzzle loader. Funny how they fell in their tracks even tho they only had a 50 cal hole on both sides. couple with a 22 mag. But most with 6 mm. Wasn't worried about the fur. I'll try to find you some pics. Didn't have I phone back then. My old bag phone didn't take pics.......

So you were just throwing 2 cents in that had nothing to do with the question the OP posed. He says Fur friendly bullet in the title. If you load any bullet down slow enough speed it would be fur friendly, but you would have way more runners than you want. I have call a number of coyotes and never thought about a cast bullet. I like speed and a bullet that comes apart and stays inside them. The fold up and never move.


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Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: Miley] #8130592
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Funny how if topic is deer it’s ALL ABOUT bullet placement.Seldom type of bullet. But if a coyote runs off Anything less than a top notch bullet it’s bullets fault wink

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Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: Miley] #8130593
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Spin it Byrd!!

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swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: Miley] #8130596
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Deer are weak compared to coyotes. You can kill deer with about anything. You would know that if you shot many of them. It takes way more to plant a coyote consistent. I started using my coyote loads to hunt deer and it drops them like a rock. They don't kick, flop or run. They are dead before they hit the ground. Bullet placement is a given with anything.


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Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: bucksnbears] #8130597
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Originally Posted by bucksnbears
Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Like I said earlier. In this part of the country "saving the fur" isn't the reason to call and..


Hmm, I don't see where you said that

whistle

How many have you shot with bullets that you cast?


wink

Wondering. WolfDog has had many posts about cast bullets yet I don't believe I've seen you post your wisdom on any of them? Being you like to post your knowledge quite often, just wondering why?

What velocities are you pushing your cast bullets out of your 22_250?

And dang it man, get new glasses. (Edits) laugh





swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: Miley] #8130633
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Winchester used to sell a 45 gr hp in a white box and call it a varminter. It said no faster than 1 in 9. I didn't shoot them in 250 but in 223. But they were offered in 250 also. The bullet became metal shards like you just had shavings. No exit on a coon shot long ways at 50 yards. I think light bullets that come apart may not exist and have less fur damage. That or very heavy bullets and slow them down.

I never worried about fur just wanted them dead so mostly shot them with a 7/08 260 or 243. But half dollar holes or larger. But they died in place on the spot ve spinning and flipping.

Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: Miley] #8130668
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Cicadas musta come out in KY.
They are drowning out the noise of the crickets. laugh


swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
Re: Fur friendly bullet 22-250 [Re: Miley] #8130670
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Fur friendly?

Forget it. DRT is where it's at.


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