No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers ***NO POLITICS
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter
Everyone's always posting about deer food plots, but what about bobwhite quail habitat? What would be the best things to plant for them? Keep in mind, I have zero experience with habitat management. In addition to planting stuff, what other land improvements would help foster an environment favorable to them?
Our bobwhite population here is spotty. While I usually don't hear any here near the house, just about a mile down the road I hear/see them pretty frequently.
They need food cover and bare ground. The bare ground is so the chicks can catch bugs more easily from what I read years ago when I was competing in bird dog trials.
Habitat loss from changing farming practices has been the hardest on them. We went from 10, 20 to 100 acre fields with fence rows and tree lines to wide open cleaned out field a rabbit had to pack it's lunch to make it across to accommodate the large farm equipment used today and the several thousand acre farmer.. gone are the small family farms.
Nest predation is hard on the few remaining birds. A possum or coon will wike out a hole nest in one sitting making it hard to build any population.
On my farm I never mow or cut it all at once I do small sections wait a few weeks to a month than do more . This leaves it in different stages of growth and there is always a place for the wildlife to have shelter and food. I also don't bushhog from mid April tell mid June in hopes the fawn are big enough they will move out of the way at that point. Had a few that didn't early spring and I'm a Softy and didn't like it so it's an easy solution. Besides I'm busy with bees then anyway.( That's what I tell myself so I don't think I'm to soft anyway)
Controlled fire on a 2 year rotation if you have piney woods. If fire isnt a possibility and you have mostly hardwoods....with few open, sunlit, weedy areas...then it is unlikely you'll ever have quail.
Thank God For Your Blessings! Never Half-Arse Anything!
Controlled fire on a 2 year rotation if you have piney woods. If fire isnt a possibility and you have mostly hardwoods....with few open, sunlit, weedy areas...then it is unlikely you'll ever have quail.
I do have mostly hardwoods. I do have some open, weedy areas but not really an abundance of them. I've heard wild quail here once or twice calling, but that's it. I released a few last year (actually they released themselves 3 weeks early on the night we had a big storm no less, most perished in the storm) but two of them survived all summer, fall and winter and only disappeared several weeks ago. Thinking they may have gone in search of mates as both were male.
Anyways, I was wanting to release some more. I know the survival rate is pretty dismal. I just wondered if there was anything I could do to help improve their chances somewhat.
Properly flight conditioned and minimal contact pen raised quail will act like wild birds. Unhealthy quail will die. Supplementing well raised birds works. Reproduction is not successful. Remove coon, possum, skunks, and feral cats and they thrive. They must have overhead cover to get away from hawks.
Quail need cover. Nesting cover is thick areas. Brood cover has an open bottom for foraging, but overhead cover to protect against aerial attack. Ragweed makes great cover and a food source. Broomsedge makes great cover. Partridge pea is good cover and a great food source when it really matters. Any natural vegetation is good. Fire is your friend for all wildlife. You can see in the video this was about a 3-4 week old burn and the quail are loving it.
Pen-raised quail won't work. Even those raised in a large flight pen with minimal human contact. They just don't have the prey instinct they need to survive.
You'll just be feeding the predators.....but, hey! Then you can trap them....except for the hawks.
Thank God For Your Blessings! Never Half-Arse Anything!
Pen-raised quail won't work. Even those raised in a large flight pen with minimal human contact. They just don't have the prey instinct they need to survive.
You'll just be feeding the predators.....but, hey! Then you can trap them....except for the hawks.
We got a dozen to take to another farm to train some dogs and have shooters shoot at the flush, and hawks were picking them off before the dogs could find them. The manager won’t allow any “release” birds anywhere near the “quail woods.” He’s not taking a chance of one surviving and possibly spreading disease amongst the wild birds.
Pen-raised quail won't work. Even those raised in a large flight pen with minimal human contact. They just don't have the prey instinct they need to survive.
You'll just be feeding the predators.....but, hey! Then you can trap them....except for the hawks.
We got a dozen to take to another farm to train some dogs and have shooters shoot at the flush, and hawks were picking them off before the dogs could find them. The manager won’t allow any “release” birds anywhere near the “quail woods.” He’s not taking a chance of one surviving and possibly spreading disease amongst the wild birds.
Yessir...diseases could be an issue, too.
Thank God For Your Blessings! Never Half-Arse Anything!
A Johnny house makes good habitat but even then if not set in the right place you're just feeding the predators. As already mentioned, cover with open under-story (at quail level) and canopy for hawk/owl protection.
My takeaway on reading a few. Dirt, overhead cover and landscape sized tracts. They need access to bare dirt so regular prescribed fire, no turfgrasses instead native buch grasses, forbs/weedy cover/woody understory for overhead protection and all this in various stages of diverse growth over several thousand acres to allow ample room for multiple coveys.
I used to buy quail from a breeder in Tralfagar, Indiana. He banded many hundreds of bobwhite quail and released them in the Fall. He trapped back the survivors in the Spring, with call birds in recall pens. He only used the birds that survived the Winter, on their own, in his breeding program. He had by far the best quality, wild like bobwhite, out of the many thousands I have bought and had. Many people I sold them to or birds out of them to, successfully reintroduced breeding populations of bobwhite, at least on a short term basis.
I think the state DNRs should trap wild bobwhite, raise large numbers of chicks out of them using light to force them to double clutch. They should breed the resulting birds heavily, for no more than 3 years and restock them in the wild and start the breeding program again with birds straight out of the wild.
Captivity quickly changes the genetics in wild animals, through the generations. By only using birds only recently out of the wild. You can keep the traits they need to survive.
I would find someone in your area, who does something similar, of if legal, trap wild Bobwhite and do it yourself.
Habitat management is the key to bobwhite quail as it is for most wild species.
That pen-raised stuff is not long term. Been tried by many landowners and state wildlife agencies, especially with gallinacious birds such as quail and turkey.
Thank God For Your Blessings! Never Half-Arse Anything!