Re: Just own up..
[Re: Wanna Be]
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05/09/24 02:04 PM
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jbyrd63
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Osky not like the guys didn't have a reason to be there. THE DO HAVE A LEASE on the same road if I read it correctly. But as pointed out my reading skills lack. PLUS I"LL TYPE REAL SLOW . YES they trespassed and was in the wrong. MY POINT FROM THE BEGINING was I wouldn't have called the game warden . Once I made contact with the dad / guilty parties I would have said DON"T let me catch you on my property. OP even said as soon as they realized they were on the wrong lease they left !!!! what should they have done. Covered themselves in sat cloth and ashes ?? 2500 acres of land Is different than my garage. Guy have to go thru a door to get into my building. Plus the aforementioned fact they hunt on other side. Stepping over the chain / gate was in their right. THEY HAVE AN EASEMENT to go to their lease. Another thing not mentioned. Was OP no trespassing signs only ones up? Young guys probably did see them . But bet they also saw ones on the lease they had permission on . Didn't sound like the guys were the ones had it leased just kids of guy that did. Who knows. But fact they were gone before .OP got there tells me they figured out they shouldn't be there and left. Not like they got caught at 6:30 in morning and was ran off. But of course always some on here that want to shoot every person walking or looking at something of theirs. Lock them up its my air and how dare they breath it. Geez Yes I said I was done with this but if mentioned ill answer.
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Re: Just own up..
[Re: Wanna Be]
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05/10/24 07:57 AM
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Wright Brothers
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Email this post to the perpetrators for another six pages.
Nah we've heard one side, string em up.
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Re: Just own up..
[Re: Diggerman]
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05/10/24 08:15 AM
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Osky
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I had a friend that got lost hunting in the mountains a couple years ago, had to spend a cold night out, Next day he found his way out through some private land, Jail or no jail? Give him a bottle water and a blanket or a ticket? There is no comparison. Three grown adults, who can read, walking down a fully marked trail, crossing a fully marked gate or chain, all the while knowing there is other adjoining private land they could not be on next to that they could be on is nowhere near the same scenario. I dare to say that anyone who went thru what you describe is going to be, relieved, grateful, and a bit humble to anyone who they come across land owner included. In the end this entire thread as the title states has been about just that. First chance to diffuse the situation was with the trespasser, and it was given. Reap what you sow. Osky
www.SureDockusa.com“ I said I don’t have much use for traps these days, never said I didn’t know how to use them.”
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Re: Just own up..
[Re: Osky]
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05/10/24 10:02 AM
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Diggerman
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I had a friend that got lost hunting in the mountains a couple years ago, had to spend a cold night out, Next day he found his way out through some private land, Jail or no jail? Give him a bottle water and a blanket or a ticket? There is no comparison. Three grown adults, who can read, walking down a fully marked trail, crossing a fully marked gate or chain, all the while knowing there is other adjoining private land they could not be on next to that they could be on is nowhere near the same scenario. I dare to say that anyone who went thru what you describe is going to be, relieved, grateful, and a bit humble to anyone who they come across land owner included. In the end this entire thread as the title states has been about just that. First chance to diffuse the situation was with the trespasser, and it was given. Reap what you sow. Osky You got all that from the OP? I read it quite different . There were two people hunting turkeys that spent "a little" time on the wrong side of the line, The confrontation was with the Father of one of the accused. The OP apparently has "daddy issues. Thats what I read.
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Re: Just own up..
[Re: Wanna Be]
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05/10/24 11:21 AM
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Osky
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“the man who’s a member, his boy and a friend were out hunting”
Diggerman the above is directly from the original post, you must have missed it.
I will throw this question/ example out to you and others that have your same thought on this: Some years ago I had a fellow up bear hunting in very remote country in northern MN. Late night a wounded bear was found and retrieved. On separate machines I led him out of that back country, he for whatever reason drifted back and mistakenly jumped on a small trail he thought I’d taken. I didn’t, I knew a guy owned that 40 so I never took that trail. That trail would take the guy to the same small gravel road I was bound for but he would get there sooner.
I found the hunter on the gravel waiting for me, surprise yes. The little trail he had come out on was well posted there at the gravel. Hadn’t been on the deep bush side. When he emerged from the bush, on that trail, at the gravel he had run over a block of buried 2x4 that had nails driven thru it, nails up of course and it punctured the atv tire. As the board was pulled up it came around the tire, other nails cracked the fender edge, and between all that and flipping back at him off a tight tree it tore his pants and cut his leg. Not too deep. Flashlite showed just how the board had been set in and we found another planted on the other side of the trail that his opposite tire just caught the corner of and loosened up. Both boards behind the signs on the private property. All said and done standing there on that gravel the guy who did this of course had his name written on those signs as is required. I knew him.
What would you have done?
Osky
www.SureDockusa.com“ I said I don’t have much use for traps these days, never said I didn’t know how to use them.”
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Re: Just own up..
[Re: Diggerman]
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05/10/24 11:51 AM
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I had a friend that got lost hunting in the mountains a couple years ago, had to spend a cold night out, Next day he found his way out through some private land, Jail or no jail? Give him a bottle water and a blanket or a ticket? Expediency in a life threatening event is a thing in law. I forget the exact term used, ?affirmative defense?, to describe it but it is a thing. It is also the basis for other otherwise proscribed acts such as the taking of a life in defense of self. Now if your friend had decided to linger and hunt or pick berries outside of that required to stay alive then we are talking something else entirely.
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Re: Just own up..
[Re: Osky]
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05/10/24 11:58 AM
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“the man who’s a member, his boy and a friend were out hunting”
Diggerman the above is directly from the original post, you must have missed it.
I will throw this question/ example out to you and others that have your same thought on this: Some years ago I had a fellow up bear hunting in very remote country in northern MN. Late night a wounded bear was found and retrieved. On separate machines I led him out of that back country, he for whatever reason drifted back and mistakenly jumped on a small trail he thought I’d taken. I didn’t, I knew a guy owned that 40 so I never took that trail. That trail would take the guy to the same small gravel road I was bound for but he would get there sooner.
I found the hunter on the gravel waiting for me, surprise yes. The little trail he had come out on was well posted there at the gravel. Hadn’t been on the deep bush side. When he emerged from the bush, on that trail, at the gravel he had run over a block of buried 2x4 that had nails driven thru it, nails up of course and it punctured the atv tire. As the board was pulled up it came around the tire, other nails cracked the fender edge, and between all that and flipping back at him off a tight tree it tore his pants and cut his leg. Not too deep. Flashlite showed just how the board had been set in and we found another planted on the other side of the trail that his opposite tire just caught the corner of and loosened up. Both boards behind the signs on the private property. All said and done standing there on that gravel the guy who did this of course had his name written on those signs as is required. I knew him.
What would you have done?
Osky
Your friend was in the wrong for trespass, assuming the jurisdiction trespass laws say all land is posted or posted land etc, BUT the landowner was even more greviously in the wrong for the setting of "mantraps" or whatever applicable law that jurisdiction has. Your friend might get a misdemeanor citation and fine, the landowner might get a felony stay in prison. But I'm not a lawyer, my parents were married, so I may be incorrect of my understanding.
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Re: Just own up..
[Re: Wanna Be]
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05/11/24 09:17 AM
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Lol.....Why when I come south I hunt mostly public national forest land with a little private land where I have permission.
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Re: Just own up..
[Re: jbyrd63]
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05/11/24 09:21 AM
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Osky
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Yep what I said from the get go. Because dad was a butt hang them fellows from the light pole in town. THEY DIDN"T have a chance to own up until the possum police was called in. He shows up and they tell everything. Bet it was his terrific interrogation skills. OR could be they are good kids and felt like doing what was right. Obvious they have a good streak in them or OP would have found them still on his property. Guess the fact they got some wrong info on hunting rights on property didn't matter. Must not be very good at trespassing to poach a turkey if they chickened out at 6:30. I bet they broke the speed limit going or coming from the hunt. See if you can find a traffic cam or speed cam. Might as well make them pay for everything they did that trip......
Hey you guys should put one of them effigy thingys like people do for buzzards to keep them out. Weeeeeelll doggy! Said uncle Jed “And now, for the rest of the story” said Paul Harvey. Osky
www.SureDockusa.com“ I said I don’t have much use for traps these days, never said I didn’t know how to use them.”
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