Ok guys so who would be this guys like, polar opposite I should look into ?

… whoever invented overdraws and punchcutter broad heads

Its not arrow related but the traditional bowyers bible set is pretty sweet. Had more to do with building bows than arrows, but it has a vast knowledge of traditional archery from many different authors.

As far as the opposite of Ashby, well that would be any limp wristed compounder trying to shoot 400fps and when he shoots a deer on his youtube channel he says “smoked em” with the “stick and string”. Best i can do

You should get a test pack of wood shafts and really go down the rabbit hole. Get surewoods or trueshafts. A guy raptor archery i believe is chatty and could get you started in figuring out where you would want to start. I’ve always said it, but shooting carbon out of a trad bow is like flyfishing with worms.

Look up Byron Ferguson

try fly fishing with a fresh caught grasshopper. hook under the collar so it swims around that pool behind the big rock

I have a friend, Marty, he has a job that had him in Africa so much that he bought a house to stay in over there.
Loves to trad hunt and has killed a museum full of critters.

He hammered an elephant with a 100# longbow and an arrow that was stupid heavy. Didn't get a pass through but drove that 30+" arrows in past the nock and either took out a rib or part of one.

Heavy arrow is all physics, sit down with an equation and some known data and you can figure out the optimum arrow weight for your set up and then build your arrows to that spec.

Warning, there is a rabbit hole/maze that you can get lost in with archery and physics
Kinetic energy, front of center balance, etc

From what I have seen you post about guns and reloading I think it would interest you

When talking arrow weight a good rule of thumb that is also very time-tested is simply this, 9-10 grains per pound of draw weight. I don't care if it's through attaining high FOC or the shaft materials themselves.

Aaron is correct.

Before compounds the standard of measure was AMO. 60LB DRAW @30", 540GR ARROW. Then many went kinda stupid. Expandable heads do work, usually. But personally, the only thing I would use them on would be turkeys.

Glad I made my popcorn early.

Here is a bit of personal experience. I have an osage selfbow I made around 1999 that pulls about 57 pounds at my 27” draw length. Ive taken around 40 deer with it. The first 15 or 20 of those were with arrows cut 28-1/2” long weighing about 550 grains. none were complete pass throughs. At some point I became interested in studying different cultures and their archery kits that are used primarily for hunting (the short bow’s and arrows associated with historic Native American cultures are primarily for warfare, but that is a different subject)…) Anyway I noticed most archery kits being used primarily for making meat had loooong bows and looong heavy arrows. So I decided to try that out.
I made arrows of split timber hickory and grey dogwood shoots that were 34 to 36 inches long (not a typo) and weighed between 850-1000 grains. The next deer I shot, a 130 pound doe, left the arrow stuck in the ground under it and didnt go very far. So i washed the blood off it, put a new flint point on it because the rock hit a rib on exit side and broke, and put it back in my quiver. I killed 4 deer with that same shaft because every single one was a complete pass through and the shaft was undamaged. Had to replace a fletch after the third because it was getting ratty. On the fourth one it hit another rib and broke the second flint point so I put another point on it and retired it. Shaft is still straight, and maybe someday I will try for number 5.
And here is another thing I noticed about very heavy arrows - they are dead quiet. They are slow, but it doesnt matter because the sound is so natural and quiet that the deer dont jump the string like with faster louder setups. When I did miss, I started getting second shots because the deer did not spook.
Thats my experience for whatever it is worth to you.
There is one downside, and that is trajectory. I keep my shots under 20 yards. But thats how I like it, that is one of the reasons why I bowhunt - its about getting close and using equipment I made myself, not seeing how far I can shoot. That said, I also respect and appreciate the long range specialist and amazing skill of shooting like that. My way is just what I personally like for bowhunting.

Are you knapping your own broadheads?

you sure that's the same Dave Holt? I know nothing about any of that.

Even if it was true I don't see how it has anything to do with the subject.

Yes. I have retired from commercial knapping, but in those days I was supplying them to 3 Rivers Archery and other individuals. If you ever watched Tred Barta hunt with stone, I made those arrows. Well actually he sent me fletched shafts and I made and mounted the points on them for him.

I am a prime example of why it is dangerous to make a hobby a business. Haven’t chipped stone for fun in a long time. Although it has been long enough now that I don’t mind making a blade now and then, I only do it when I actually need something.

It has been 5 years now since I deer hunted. Wife and 7 year old dont seem to like the meat, and my drive to hunt seems to have changed. My son has started saying he wants to hunt, and I took my first shot at a deer with a bow when I was 8, so I think its time to start playing bows and arrows again…

Hey man, I’d given up deer hunting and had even sold most of my rifles. Then some kid at my son’s school shot a deer when he was about 11 or 12 and mine wanted to try it. So I borrowed the rifle I’d killed my first deer with from my dad and that created a monster, lol! He’s 27 now with a P&Y and B&C under his belt already. We’re even talking about trying traditional archery…bows only though, lol!!
Hope you get back into it and post some pics!!

I shoot 460 grain arrows out of 30#. These arrows have 300 grains up front. They fly perfectly and the bow is very quiet. Also they penetrate farther into my Block target than a 300 grain arrow with 125 grains up front.