Re: The Laws of Man?
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Didn't read all posts but the simple answer is, yes. What you read in Romans stands whether we agree with it or not. The scriptures point out that the only time we don't follow man's laws is when they try to make laws that violate God's law or standards. Is not Gods standard to Forgive those who trespass against us? Some people have made a living violating that standard.
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Re: The Laws of Man?
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No. When a Christian sins, a feeling of shame is a natural reaction. You know your actions were a sin against God, and feel shame that you did whatever you did. I really don't think God will send me to hades for driving 5 miles over speed limit.
If I'm out hunting squirrel because my fridge has no food in it, and the limit is 6, but I shoot 8, and on the way home drop off 4 cleaned squirrels to the 85 year old widow lady down the street, I can promise you I will not be concerned over my immortal soul.
Several of you guys are setting up scenarios that describe some sort of justification for violating man's laws. Yall seem to be dodging what I'm really asking...... Lets try this: if you took those 8 squirrels because you wanted to and didn't drop off any to anyone. You killed them simply because you could and have no care that it was illegal....how will God look upon you? My opinion on that would be... it depends. Do I go out and shoot 8 squirrels every day? Do I leave them lay in the woods, or take them home and eat them? If I go out hunting only once or twice a year and shoot 2 squirrels over the limit, take them home and eat them, I'm betting God would be absolutely fine with that. That's not greed. In fact, I'd suspect (in a throw back to the post from earlier this week), that God would be more upset about a person that forbids others from harvesting the wildlife from their land. That could be considered greed.
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Re: The Laws of Man?
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Oh my! ^^^^
I got my question answered and learned about some unusual attitudes that some Tman members have.
I guess none of us really know what to expect if we make it to the gates.
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Re: The Laws of Man?
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Oh my! ^^^^
I got my question answered and learned about some unusual attitudes that some Tman members have.
I guess none of us really know what to expect if we make it to the gates. Really, you don’t know?
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Re: The Laws of Man?
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Oh my! ^^^^
I got my question answered and learned about some unusual attitudes that some Tman members have.
I guess none of us really know what to expect if we make it to the gates. Really, you don’t know? We're all different HT. Some seem to think that they can go thru life on this Earth doing pretty much as they please and ask forgiveness b4 they take their last breath and all is good. I believe you should live your life EVERYDAY as sin-free as you can, be humble and thankful, constantly pray and ask forgiveness, and from the core of your heart accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior...believing that he died so that we may live.
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Re: The Laws of Man?
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Dang Bluejays raiding mourning doves / Robin nests in the yard. Dang turkeys destroying my newly plant foodplots . Dang Badgers digging up people's driveway. Ad nauseam... Thank you Lord for giving us humans the resources to do as we see fit. ;)pure n simple, it's dang near impossible to wake up, go anywhere and not break a law created by man. Did I turn on my turn signal at that last gravel road while turning onto the next? Forgive me Lord. Gonna say, you seem to have become kinda self rightness lately SW. 
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You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Re: The Laws of Man?
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Alot on here seem to think ir is all right to break a law as long astheyHAVE a good reason for doing it Kind of like giving the rest to someone else.
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Re: The Laws of Man?
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Gonna say, you seem to have become kinda self rightness lately SW.  I have no idea why you would say that. Even though I asked for opinions on what I realize is a complex question, I don't consider myself holier than thou. If you would take the time to read this thread and what I was really inquiring about then maybe you would understand. But, I don't think you (and a few others that have replied to this thread) are really interested in my question....maybe because you don’t know or don’t want to know. Many of the replies are about some off the wall scenario like your "failure to use your turn signal" example. SMH
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Re: The Laws of Man?
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If you willfully and knowingly violate the laws of man (specifically game and fish law) are you committing a sin in the eyes of God
Your opinions? Hmm, I guess I can't comprehend that? So, Swampwolf, easy question. If you raised chickens and a coon was coming and killing them and season was not open, What would YOU do? Would you obey the law as man has written or partake in the Law God put forth about it?? Should be an easy answer. God's law about man having dominion over all living creatures or man's law saying only during a special time frame. Without spin, what would you do?
swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo
You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Re: The Laws of Man?
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That’s a solid question Bucks.. It puts “mans” laws into perspective.
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Re: The Laws of Man?
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If you willfully and knowingly violate the laws of man (specifically game and fish law) are you committing a sin in the eyes of God
Your opinions? Hmm, I guess I can't comprehend that? So, Swampwolf, easy question. If you raised chickens and a coon was coming and killing them and season was not open, What would YOU do? Would you obey the law as man has written or partake in the Law God put forth about it?? Should be an easy answer. God's law about man having dominion over all living creatures or man's law saying only during a special time frame. Without spin, what would you do? Once again....you missed what I was asking amd have been talking about. I'm not concerned with some minor thing as you describe about a dead chicken and no coon season. I'm asking how God looks upon the person that violates man's law with no regard to anyone or anything. A person that does this because he just wants to and has no care about his actions. But, otherwise he considers himself a Christian. Try to stay with me B&B......
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Re: The Laws of Man?
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No, I see it as your trying to open up a subject to introduce a weird debate and and your falling short. God says I can kill that coon. Man's law says I can't. In the above scenario, what would YOU DO? easy question SW. 
swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo
You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Re: The Laws of Man?
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Swamp I'm wondering what text your Roman's 13 passage is from. AKA bible version?
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Re: The Laws of Man?
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No, I see it as your trying to open up a subject to introduce a weird debate and and your falling short. God says I can kill that coon. Man's law says I can't. In the above scenario, what would YOU DO? easy question SW.  I'd let the coon walk B&B, because I'm a law abiding man....but you already knew that... "Starting a weird debate" ? and "falling short" ? May be weird to you. And I don't think I'm falling short at all.
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Re: The Laws of Man?
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Swamp I'm wondering what text your Roman's 13 passage is from. AKA bible version? Not sure. I screen shot that from an article on-line. I went back and looked but it did not reference a Bible version.
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Re: The Laws of Man?
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No man that wareth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life. And there's that part about not speaking evil of dignitaries. It isn't easy, at least not for me.
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Re: The Laws of Man?
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I found it It's the living bible. It's actually a paraphrase test . I wanted to read it in context of Roman's 12. In a word for word translation comparing to the paraphrase.
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Re: The Laws of Man?
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Oh my! ^^^^
I got my question answered and learned about some unusual attitudes that some Tman members have.
I guess none of us really know what to expect if we make it to the gates. Unusual attitudes? So you think if someone harvests (for argument's sake) 32 squirrels (8 a day for 4 days over a 3 month season) that's GREED in God's eyes if the daily limit is 6 squirrels, while others might be harvesting 6 squirrels every day for 3 months... which amounts to 540 squirrels??? Who is the greedy one there??? The one who follows man's laws or abides by God's? Am I a POACHER if I harvest 32 squirrels a season versus the allowed 540 squirrels???
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Re: The Laws of Man?
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Oh my! ^^^^
I got my question answered and learned about some unusual attitudes that some Tman members have.
I guess none of us really know what to expect if we make it to the gates. Unusual attitudes? So you think if someone harvests (for argument's sake) 32 squirrels (8 a day for 4 days over a 3 month season) that's GREED in God's eyes if the daily limit is 6 squirrels, while others might be harvesting 6 squirrels every day for 3 months... which amounts to 540 squirrels??? Who is the greedy one there??? The one who follows man's laws or abides by God's? Am I a POACHER if I harvest 32 squirrels a season versus the allowed 540 squirrels??? No....but you and others have totally missed what I'm asking. Are you a law breaker that breaks man's law without any fore thought or care of your actions? How do you think God looks upon those that are? This isn't about some casual over the limit, taking out of season, running late for work speeding.... I'm having a hard time getting you and others to see what I'm asking. Or, maybe yall do see what I'm asking.
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