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What is this tree and/or bush? #8145965
05/28/24 08:40 AM
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What is this tree and/or bush?

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I have tried killing it several times. It grows out of the crack between the brick facia and the concrete box of my well head. I've cut it back many times, over probably 10 years. I don't want to use poison on it, because it is right next to my well. It's not a big annoyance. I know I could burn it out.

This is the first time it developed the little balls. I previously thought it was a black locust seedling. It has wicked thorns on it.

Keith

Re: What is this tree and/or bush? [Re: KeithC] #8145966
05/28/24 08:41 AM
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Trapperman turned the top and bottom pictures sideways.

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Re: What is this tree and/or bush? [Re: KeithC] #8145968
05/28/24 08:44 AM
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Re: What is this tree and/or bush? [Re: KeithC] #8145972
05/28/24 09:03 AM
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The leaves and berries are edible.
Peppery, citrus.

Re: What is this tree and/or bush? [Re: KeithC] #8145977
05/28/24 09:10 AM
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Tordon is your friend... wouldn't need more than a couple drops.

Re: What is this tree and/or bush? [Re: Killbuck] #8146013
05/28/24 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Killbuck
Tordon is your friend... wouldn't need more than a couple drops.


You can get the Tordon RTU, think the generic is Pathfinder, at many farm stores. Just a couple of cuts with a hatchet and squirt some into the cut, 1 hack per 3" of trunk diameter. Another option is Triclopyr, Remedy is one of the trade names, with can be mixed at 25% in diesel and sprayed onto the trunk about 6-12" from the root collar up. This works well on trees with multiple stems like Chinese Privet.

Re: What is this tree and/or bush? [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8146016
05/28/24 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
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Thanks for the identification.

It looks like the prickly ash tree has decent value. The seeds sell for $1.00 to $2.00 each. The seedlings are expensive. The bark and leaves have value too. It's one of only two species of plants the Giant Swallowtails caterpillars eat.

I was actually cutting common milkweed in one of my hayfields, right before taking the pictures of the prickly ash, to root cuttings of to.sell to the monarch lovers. The monarch lovers pay decent money for milkweed plants, which are mostly just a noxious weed in my cut hay for me.

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I'll try propagating the prickly ash too. The monarch people will likely buy it too.

Keith

Re: What is this tree and/or bush? [Re: KeithC] #8146017
05/28/24 10:19 AM
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I had a mulberry next to my well, I cut it off and rubbed it with cream and salted it heavy and put a bucket over it.

Re: What is this tree and/or bush? [Re: KeithC] #8146032
05/28/24 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
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Thanks for the identification.

It looks like the prickly ash tree has decent value. The seeds sell for $1.00 to $2.00 each. The seedlings are expensive. The bark and leaves have value too. It's one of only two species of plants the Giant Swallowtails caterpillars eat.

I was actually cutting common milkweed in one of my hayfields, right before taking the pictures of the prickly ash, to root cuttings of to.sell to the monarch lovers. The monarch lovers pay decent money for milkweed plants, which are mostly just a noxious weed in my cut hay for me.

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I'll try propagating the prickly ash too. The monarch people will likely buy it too.

Keith

Theres also a milkweed cult amongst archery hunters for wind indicators

Re: What is this tree and/or bush? [Re: SNIPERBBB] #8146168
05/28/24 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
Theres also a milkweed cult amongst archery hunters for wind indicators


I shook the fluff off of some milkweed seeds I shipped to Big Bob in a large plastic, cheese ball container. To winnow the fluff out, I just held the mouth to the wind and the fluff came swirling out in a steady stream. It worked very well and was fun to watch.

Do archery hunters mostly just pick their own milkweed pods, or do they buy them?

Because of the timing on getting my hay cut the last two years. I now have a lot of milkweed in one of my hayfields, easily several thousand plants. I would rather make money off it rather than have it take over.

Keith

Re: What is this tree and/or bush? [Re: KeithC] #8146196
05/28/24 04:06 PM
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I know there are a handful of bowhunters that like milkweed fluff for checking wind currents, but I can’t imagine anyone actually paying for it. If they have a place to hunt, they have a place to find milkweed. The stuff is everywhere in the fall.

Re: What is this tree and/or bush? [Re: KeithC] #8146296
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I am surprised you did not know what this was.

Re: What is this tree and/or bush? [Re: M.Magis] #8146312
05/28/24 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by M.Magis
I know there are a handful of bowhunters that like milkweed fluff for checking wind currents, but I can’t imagine anyone actually paying for it. If they have a place to hunt, they have a place to find milkweed. The stuff is everywhere in the fall.

You know how some of these city slicker hunters are...

Re: What is this tree and/or bush? [Re: KeithC] #8146316
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
Theres also a milkweed cult amongst archery hunters for wind indicators


I shook the fluff off of some milkweed seeds I shipped to Big Bob in a large plastic, cheese ball container. To winnow the fluff out, I just held the mouth to the wind and the fluff came swirling out in a steady stream. It worked very well and was fun to watch.

Do archery hunters mostly just pick their own milkweed pods, or do they buy them?

Because of the timing on getting my hay cut the last two years. I now have a lot of milkweed in one of my hayfields, easily several thousand plants. I would rather make money off it rather than have it take over.

Keith

Theres a rather limited market for it. Lot of people just give it away to other hunters or to the butterfly people.

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