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anchoring traps to concrete ideas. #8147649
05/31/24 11:06 AM
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or how much weight to keep a coon from leaving.

here is the situation I am helping with a coon problem at a farm
elderly Widow lives there , rents out the tillable and some of the storage in the barns


the milk house , parlor , feed and waiting areas are sloped concrete and full of coons in the walls , under the floor, there is a curb and sand to the sides of the ally but I suspect I am going to find more concrete under .

for many of them I will be able to go just outside where they come and go and hit he trails and for ease of staking I am going to concentrate on that

a couple more of the barns have concrete floors and fairly obvious broken sections with burrows under the slab
because a few of these barns were for the cows to shelter they have cracked up walk ways from milking barn to these others so a lot of concrete around a lot with grass grown up through the cracks.

the good news is I can drive my truck to within about 50 feet of most of these barns.

I though about tossing the generator in the back of the truck and an extension cord and drilling a few holes in busted up concrete and using devcons

but that doesn't sound fast and I need to limit my setup time as well.

what have you used to set on concrete

I have 1 cat that no one owns but she doesn't want killed either, so it can get caught but has to get released. so no connies


what are your ideas?


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Re: anchoring traps to concrete ideas. [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8147657
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Brake rotor. Use rotor for dog proof stand and drag

Re: anchoring traps to concrete ideas. [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8147658
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I like using cages in that scenario, but they are big, bulky and expensive.

On concrete you'd need a lot of weight I would think.

Re: anchoring traps to concrete ideas. [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8147659
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220 over opening. Don't take as much drag weight.....

Re: anchoring traps to concrete ideas. [Re: jbyrd63] #8147661
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
220 over opening. Don't take as much drag weight.....


Basic reading comprehension.

No connies was stated in the OP. And 220's are illegal on dry land in WI.

Re: anchoring traps to concrete ideas. [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8147667
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I have 2 cages , I might get another , they are expensive and the big ones really tear them up but they have their place.
I figure cages to get started in the parlor as it is all concrete and not even broken up


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Re: anchoring traps to concrete ideas. [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8147671
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Catch the cat In a live trap then find temporary housing for It till your done. . Then set 160 boxes.


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Re: anchoring traps to concrete ideas. [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8147673
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Not sure where your at but I see it's Wisconsin if your close I think I've got 10 or so live traps you could borrow, shoot me a pm

Re: anchoring traps to concrete ideas. [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8147682
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Concrete block with a DP
The DP holder meant to mount to a tree can be fixed to the concrete block

I wouldn't use a brake rotor coon can drag one all day long. Especially along concrete


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Re: anchoring traps to concrete ideas. [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8147688
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I can see what I can get for big brake Rotors.
what I have all sorts of is firewood rounds I could put several in the truck with DPs already Lag bolted to the side of the round and a hole drilled to set the DP at a nice angle for easy reach

do you think a 30 pound log is enough I guess it wouldn't be the end of the world if it dragged it a little ways


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Re: anchoring traps to concrete ideas. [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8147691
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Turtledale, I agree. Brake rotors work in creeks and soft ground, but worthless on a concrete slab.
A big coon can drag a concrete block quite a distance too, but they won’t be able to take it up a wall or through small openings. Had one take a concrete block up a bank and out onto a mowed lawn where it stopped out open for all to see. Not good. But that was a far as it got. The location sets the tone of what you use, right?
Did a lot of coon takeouts in big machine sheds with concrete floors and drives. Be creative which where you mount and what you use. Tapcons anchoring down flat stock with holes for attaching works well on concrete bridge and culvert walls, ledges for me. Same with a floor. So does sandwiching the chain end link in between two large fender washers and run the tapcon through the washer holes and chain link screwing the tapcon right into the concrete. Bigger tapcons and an appropriate sized drilled hole in the concrete are a very solid anchoring. A battery powered hammer drill (or use the generator you mention) is valuable. You can drill a hole big enough to fit the DP post into flat side of a section of 2x6 and use that as the support for placement of DPs. Anchor the trap to really stout drag or tapcon down an anchor to the concrete using flat stock or washers sandwiching the end chain link.
You can put a lot of DPs in a barn like that. If there is anything on the walls to mount the trap chain to like eyebolts or shelf brackets, those work too. Lengthen the chain to reach it and support the DP on floor with the flat 2x6 section as mentioned. I’d look at setting around the outside too wherever you can. Lots of coons won’t stay in the barn all their time they have to go out and find food and water too. Hammer them on the trails to and from their other needs not just shelter. You can loop cable or chain around something like barn posts or light poles too.
I’m not a fan of drags because I got tired it hunting for catches or having them end up somewhere I didn’t want them to go.
Cages work well. Don’t use cheap ones from tractor supply but get good well made cages built to hold large coon. They will serve for multiple catches over longer time.
Always have to consider what a catch might do to something too. A coon can really tear things up when foot held and on a length of chain.

Jim


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Re: anchoring traps to concrete ideas. [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8147698
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A barn floor is not a shop floor. And broken up . A rotor will bite and grab.Pens and walls and stalls Close the doors. How far will they go. A 30 pound clog will not get dragged far. Put a long chain on if you like.

Re: anchoring traps to concrete ideas. [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8147709
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screw a cable to the wood wall and use a slide lock


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Re: anchoring traps to concrete ideas. [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8147710
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Why not try a tapcon,you could set a dp in a piece of 4x4


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Re: anchoring traps to concrete ideas. [Re: jarentz] #8147720
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Originally Posted by jarentz
Why not try a tapcon,you could set a dp in a piece of 4x4



I am thinking tap con will be good for the buildings with more broken up floors that I am not worried about putting a few holes in


I can slice off some 2 inch thick slabs from a firewood round for a good way to place the DP upright and drill a hole to stick the DP in

the issue is still how slow drilling holes is

my other idea is if there are enough for cracks between slabs I might be able to drill out holes to pound int 3x8 rebar stakes.

I will have a bunch few options when I go to set and see what I need to use , I am trying to keep my costs down.

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Re: anchoring traps to concrete ideas. [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8147744
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Just a crazy idea, but, could you anchor to the rafters or ceiling with a drop cable to the trap?


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Re: anchoring traps to concrete ideas. [Re: Scott__aR] #8147746
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Originally Posted by Scott__aR
Just a crazy idea, but, could you anchor to the rafters or ceiling with a drop cable to the trap?


That's actually not a bad idea. I don't think. As long as they can't reach each other, or somewhere to climb.

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Go down to some rental shop and rent one of those Hilti guns. You can shoot all kinds of things Into concrete.

Are you getting paid to do this? If not i would be waiting till Nov to do it when those coon might be worth your time and effort.


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Re: anchoring traps to concrete ideas. [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8147750
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I'm assuming with cows there's fences. If I could I'd tie off to them.

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Originally Posted by The Beav
Go down to some rental shop and rent one of those Hilti guns. You can shoot all kinds of things Into concrete.

Are you getting paid to do this? If not I would be waiting till Nov to do it when those coon might be worth your time and effort.


yes getting paid more than coon will bring in Nov , unless the market goes wild and I don't really see a 20 dollar coon happening this fall.
I am going flat daily rate with a 10 day guarantee


all but 3 bails of hay is out of storage right now so now is the time to go in and clean up then clean up again later and maybe again later

with what hay is selling for , spoiled hay from coon feces is bad.
and with nothing having been done since they quit milking about 5-6 years ago they are thick.

the Hilti gun is a good idea , a friend of mine passed recently and I am helping his widow with guns and tools, I know he had a few hilti guns I used to carry one in my truck years ago when I worked for him.

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