Is this discrimination?
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In today's world. My wife works as a night nurse. 12 hr shifts. She gets off at 5:30 a.m. and sleeps in the daytime. The village blows the air raid siren at 12 noon and again at 1:00 which wakes her even with white noise and ear plugs I've asked the village board to stop but they just laugh. Could this be discrimination? Maybe they should blow the siren at midnight and 1:00 a.m. so night shift knows its lunch time. If village won't listen, what's the next step?
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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I would guess that the blowing of the siren is mandated by government higher up than the village. They blow the sirens her at noon on Wednesdays.
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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Was blowing the whistle something they did when she took the job?
No, it is not discrimination, just unfortunate circumstance. However, it might be reasonable to question whether blowing the whistle still has a valid purpose. Perhaps do some research on when the practice was started, if an ordinance was passed requiring it, and if so, what the basis was. Also look to see if there is a noise ordinance that whistle blowing may violate and provide a basis for challenge if there is no longer a valid purpose for blowing the whistle.
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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You might have a better argument that it devalues your property. Someone might want to buy your house but once they hear the siren they decline the purchase.
That has been litigated with nuisance barking etc. That is probably the best argument. Towns get all weird when tax values go down.
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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It was started as an air raid siren during the cold war. I wonder if it is one of those old Chrysler ones. Built with a 331 firedome hemi V-8. Supposedly loudest siren ever made. Reputedly 138db @ 100ft. Can be heard for 25 miles. Only in America do we put a hemi on a siren.......lol
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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I know in one town that I live close too they don't blow the fire siren after a certain time in the evening so it doesn't wake/bother people.iam not sure if it still goes off at noon or not.
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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night shift always gets pooped on , it is a day walkers world.
run by people who work 8-5 or there about
but night shift workers are not a protected class
and they are not one race , color , creed , sex .................................................................................................all the other stuff the put in a non discrimination statement
not sure if you say they use it as a noon and 1mp whistle every day , or if they run regular tests at noon and 1
tests fall under the for the public preparedness safety
using it as a lunch start stop is probably just tradition in your town
where I grew up noon for lunch and 9pm for curfew for kids it was just a short siren for those
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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Can't do anything without offending someone It doesn't affect you so everything's hunkydory
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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Well I am going to tell trains they can not blow whistles at road/rail crossings even though it is federal law to do so.
oh wait my Name isn't Madison
depends on the day but 1-4 trains a night pass my house about 200 yards away they lay on the horn for about 2 miles
I was just on the Mississippi along highway35 1-4 trains an hour there , I hardly even notice them while sleeping
maybe that it is just such a common thing we got used to it years ago
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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I'm going to blow a siren at midnight and 1 so night workers know when it's lunch time. I applaud u! Residing in a country where we have the freedom to chose where we live no one should have to endure such discrimination. Way to take the bull by the horn instead of just complaining about it. Considering they just started doing it when she moved there or started working night shift I think what they are doing is disgraceful l.
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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I agree. Just imagine hiw many night workers miss lunch because there's no siren to tell them!!!
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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for as long as we have had a volunteer fire department and a siren when they go out on a fire call the siren goes off.
you can alwasy tell when some one new moves to town the complain about the siren always going off
why do we need that
well we though about making all the relators issue a statement that the siren would go off with every fire call to keep outsiders out , but they don't tell people so then they complain and we tell them to move back to Fib-landia where they belong.
Oh new people always complain about the train horn as well , we tell them to get over it and move out as well.
We also tell them to get over the night shooting also.
they are all free to go back where they came from that was soooo much better they decided to leave.
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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The strength of us on the left is we stand united Spot on...plus you can ignore rules and laws and just do as you please! Ain't it great!
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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There's a lot of things in life that I don't like, or disrupt my schedule. But they're not discrimination. Here we have a noon whistle and 6 p.m. one. Every town and village does it. When I worked 3rd shift it would wake me sometimes and then I would go back to sleep or not. I didn't let it ruin my day or think I was being discriminated against. While I do feel for her. Like many things in life she would be better off turning it into a positive. Maybe time for a bathroom break and then back to bed.
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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for as long as we have had a volunteer fire department and a siren when they go out on a fire call the siren goes off.
you can alwasy tell when some one new moves to town the complain about the siren always going off
why do we need that
well we though about making all the relators issue a statement that the siren would go off with every fire call to keep outsiders out , but they don't tell people so then they complain and we tell them to move back to Fib-landia where they belong.
Oh new people always complain about the train horn as well , we tell them to get over it and move out as well.
We also tell them to get over the night shooting also.
they are all free to go back where they came from that was soooo much better they decided to leave.
That's very true! And when depending on nurses to save people's lives, it doesn't matter if they have slept or not. Life is cheap! And they don't even blow the siren here for fires. Every fireman has a radio and a cellphone.
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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There's a lot of things in life that I don't like, or disrupt my schedule. But they're not discrimination. Here we have a noon whistle and 6 p.m. one. Every town and village does it. When I worked 3rd shift it would wake me sometimes and then I would go back to sleep or not. I didn't let it ruin my day or think I was being discriminated against. While I do feel for her. Like many things in life she would be better off turning it into a positive. Maybe time for a bathroom break and then back to bed. That's the spirit!
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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Yes sir
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Way to slap the victim card down uncle G!! ![cool cool](/forum/images/graemlins/default/cool.gif) U played it well
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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People used to use outhouses too. Really no need to discontinue that and potty indoors just to make life easier! Silly I tell ya!
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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People used to use outhouses too. Really no need to discontinue that and potty indoors just to make life easier! Silly I tell ya! Just like living where u want....... the choice is still urs in this country. Inside or outside. Let freedom ring..... as long as it's not louder than the whining .....
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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It was started as an air raid siren during the cold war. Having the whistle as an air raid siren during the cold war makes some sense. Blowing it at noon and 1:00 PM has no reasonable association with it being an air raid siren. I suggest you keep digging into the reasons for the whistle sounding. You are not going to get anywhere challenging the practice unless you are willing to do the work.
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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People used to use outhouses too. Really no need to discontinue that and potty indoors just to make life easier! Silly I tell ya! Just like living where u want....... the choice is still urs in this country. Inside or outside. Let freedom ring..... as long as it's not louder than the whining ..... Every time!
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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Have they always blew the air raid siren or did they start it after you moved there? Someone already used that line
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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I don't know how folks in the city can get thru life without sirens to tell them when to get up, when to go to lunch, when to go back to work, and when to go home from work. They must have some electronic device they carry in one hand all day long so they know when to move. Too bad country folks don't have them things too. Yes, I am talking to the village board members. Their theory is to keep doing things the same as the last 100 yrs. New thinking is beyond their realm. Ok I'm done.
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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Nope...this is a lektrik motor driven mounted on a windmill tower. Put the sneek on and disable it yourself. Then when it makes the news, all of us on T-man will know who it was and have a chuckle.
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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Nope...this is a lektrik motor driven mounted on a windmill tower. Put the sneek on and disable it yourself? There'd be consequences for that.
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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Have they always blew the air raid siren or did they start it after you moved there? Someone already used that line I must’ve missed your answer. Still haven’t found it
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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I'd suggest buying her some ear plugs. Total bs I agree,,,,, town whistle has been a tradition for a Looooooooooooong time..... Next ya will come for are guns and wimon......and the Barbecue...
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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If you can reach the siren a can of spray foam should be good for a couple peaceful days.Does it appear bulletproof? Oh it's very accessible and I know what to do. I had some electrical training in Army and the firemen here can set it off remotely. Not going there though as that could bring prison time.
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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Have they always blew the air raid siren or did they start it after you moved there? It's been here since about 1950...but the outhouses have been here longer than that. We should still use them too.
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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I'd suggest buying her some ear plugs. Total bs I agree,,,,, town whistle has been a tradition for a Looooooooooooong time..... Next ya will come for are guns and wimon......and the Barbecue... Maybe some grammar lessons. Imma blow the siren at midnight and 1:00. Anybody that don't like it can wear ear plugs.
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Total bs I agree,,,,, town whistle has been a tradition for a Looooooooooooong time..... Next ya will come for are guns and wimon......and the Barbecue...
Maybe some grammar lessons. Imma blow the siren at midnight and 1:00. Anybody that don't like it can wear ear plugs. Were you unaware when you moved where you did that this was a 80 year old custom? They blew the whistle at noon every day in all 13 towns in the county I grew up in and 40 years later your complaint is the first I ever heard of regarding this very popular tradition. You think that's bad, you ought to try living 100 yards from a very active train track with a crossing less than half a mile away on either side. Morning, noon, and night, that whistle howled twice, every 30 minutes. You either learned to sleep through it.. or bought ear plugs. You must be younger than I thought, because I assumed you were too old to be part of the the entitlement generation, but apparently not.
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Re: Is this discrimination?
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