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Re: John Deere is laying off workers. [Re: midlander] #8149596
06/04/24 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by midlander
Deere's reputation and quality isnt what it used to be. Big dairy in my area are going green....Fendt green...and they love them.


My fishing buddy is a Fendt and Cat ag salesman and he will tell ya John Deere is the big green monster in his world..


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Re: John Deere is laying off workers. [Re: run] #8149652
06/04/24 12:55 PM
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I looked quick but didn't see, what employees were laid off? White collar workers are not being valued like they were, turns out if you can work from home there's a solid chance AI or Pajeet can also do your job.

Re: John Deere is laying off workers. [Re: run] #8149735
06/04/24 02:43 PM
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SALES ARE GOING DOWN COST IS UP AND UNION ON STRIKE FOR HIGHER WAGES,

Re: John Deere is laying off workers. [Re: grumley701] #8149742
06/04/24 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by grumley701
Originally Posted by midlander
Deere's reputation and quality isnt what it used to be. Big dairy in my area are going green....Fendt green...and they love them.


My fishing buddy is a Fendt and Cat ag salesman and he will tell ya John Deere is the big green monster in his world..


If cat made quality small tractors that operated like my equipment at work it would be a no brainer choice for me. With my arm on my arm rest the loader control pistol grip is right in my hand zero reaching for the lever at all. And shuttle shift= no cluching or working a treadle peddle.

Re: John Deere is laying off workers. [Re: Providence Farm] #8149799
06/04/24 04:33 PM
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Net US farm income was down last year from 2022 and is projected to be down in 2024 from 2023. About 30% less net these last couple years. Prices are down for almost all commodities and input and equipment prices are still very high. With higher interest rates also there is not enough income to replace farm equipment. Would be interesting to see which divisions are laying off, major agriculture or small tractors, lawn mowers etc. Their bigger sales the last years have been more industrial and recreational then in basic ag. Not on common to see these swings in our farm economy.

Bryce

Re: John Deere is laying off workers. [Re: Rat Masterson] #8149803
06/04/24 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Many manufacturing companies are doing layoffs, just getting started.


According to dailyjobcuts.com this has been going on for awhile you just don't hear about, starting to really pick up steam now.


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Re: John Deere is laying off workers. [Re: run] #8149863
06/04/24 06:17 PM
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Deere in Dubuque iowa is laying off around 200. They make construction equipment there. Must be a lower demand for akid loaders, backhoe and dozers.

Re: John Deere is laying off workers. [Re: grumley701] #8149873
06/04/24 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by grumley701
Originally Posted by midlander
Deere's reputation and quality isnt what it used to be. Big dairy in my area are going green....Fendt green...and they love them.


My fishing buddy is a Fendt and Cat ag salesman and he will tell ya John Deere is the big green monster in his world..


Im sure different regions see different preferences, but JD has lost a lot of their grip in these parts as I said.

Re: John Deere is laying off workers. [Re: run] #8149878
06/04/24 06:39 PM
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I see Fendt tractors are German made, If the price is comparable to Deere it's a no brainer.... cause it's German, lol

Re: John Deere is laying off workers. [Re: gcs] #8149884
06/04/24 06:51 PM
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There are some Fendt tractors built in MN. DCPD plastics molded in Michigan, painted in MN and assembled in MN. Not sure where other components are made.

Re: John Deere is laying off workers. [Re: run] #8149904
06/04/24 07:43 PM
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I've lost a lot of respect for JD since they started designing their products to only be repaired by JD personnel.
The 'Right to repair' types have been after them for years to make their products so a farmer or whoever can fix it without JD guidance.

I dislike Apple products for the same reason.


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Re: John Deere is laying off workers. [Re: run] #8149927
06/04/24 08:16 PM
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Since January 2023 farmers can repair their JD equipment or use a 3rd party.

Bryce

Re: John Deere is laying off workers. [Re: bblwi] #8149935
06/04/24 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bblwi
Since January 2023 farmers can repair their JD equipment or use a 3rd party.

Bryce

I was not aware of that. That's a good thing.

I bet they were forced into it however.......


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Re: John Deere is laying off workers. [Re: bblwi] #8149979
06/04/24 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bblwi
Since January 2023 farmers can repair their JD equipment or use a 3rd party.

Bryce

Praise the Lord!


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Re: John Deere is laying off workers. [Re: run] #8149985
06/04/24 09:39 PM
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AGCO is hiring !


It’s a lazy man who can’t find his wife a second job !
Re: John Deere is laying off workers. [Re: 2poor] #8149989
06/04/24 09:45 PM
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AGCO is hiring !


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Re: John Deere is laying off workers. [Re: run] #8150009
06/04/24 10:20 PM
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I have a relative who is in charge the sales teams of a large number of deere dealerships. His family farm that he is still a part of switched from deere tractors to leased Massy Ferguson. What does that tell you?

Re: John Deere is laying off workers. [Re: Dana I] #8150066
06/05/24 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Dana I
I have a relative who is in charge the sales teams of a large number of deere dealerships. His family farm that he is still a part of switched from deere tractors to leased Massy Ferguson. What does that tell you?


That's he's a slow learner? LOL

Re: John Deere is laying off workers. [Re: yotetrapper30] #8150098
06/05/24 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by Dana I
I have a relative who is in charge the sales teams of a large number of deere dealerships. His family farm that he is still a part of switched from deere tractors to leased Massy Ferguson. What does that tell you?


That's he's a slow learner? LOL

Better late than never.


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Re: John Deere is laying off workers. [Re: run] #8150377
06/05/24 02:32 PM
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Many large farms and or large custom system now use leasing as a common way to gain access to newer technology and not have to commit a lot of leverage or collateral to buy the expensive equipment. Lease rates are not always lower cost or the best but it does give the option to up grade more quickly then many would by owning and then trading. It may not be as common in the heavy cash grain areas but here with all our forage production leasing is quite common as usage is high and updates in tech is pretty quick. Tieing up a lot of capital in ownership and debt even with even 3,000 acres to harvest is not generally a good way to produce products cost effectively. Finding labor to run 4-8 pieces of equipment let alone 6-8 semis is not easy to find and thus custom operators have become very common here. The bigger machinery dealers here have been willing to work out lease agreements. The big issue dealers have is it is not as easy as one would think to find a buyer for a 3-4 year old used 700 hp chopper or a 27 foot tractor mounted haybine.

Bryce

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