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They are replacing the people who are too fat and lazy to work.Or people like you, BOCO;  who are sponging/suckling off of the Canadian/Ontario government teat, & hiding your supplemental, miscellaneous trapping income,  while you lead a parasitic existence as the wife moocher of   your 1st nation, native Canadian spouse  !!!   In layman's terms.... spot on! 
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 #8152012 06/08/24 06:47 PM
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Never sponged off anyone a day in my life.Have all my trapping/fur records in my tax files.Worked since I was a kid and still work today.As do both of my kids.
 My Wife also worked all her life until her disability slowed her down.She still volunteers on several boards.
 Unlike you crooks,i support my country and province and municipality.
 
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 #8152015 06/08/24 06:49 PM
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If every illegal went back to Mexico this country would be crippled. I'm not saying what's right wrong or indifferent, I'm saying there's already a huge labor shortage, if the US lost that labor force, the economy would fail. Food shortages and starvation would be a reality. Just sayinAre you an Illegal Alien, yourself, or do you just hire them to do landscaping and grow & pick your vegetables  ???   Nice poke. I like your humor.  Illegals can work regular jobs on the books just like you and me. They don't get any of the tax money back but they pay the same taxes as us. They'll never see social security but they are funding it. People paint a picture of illegals being a  bunch of leaches and welfare families, and I can say that in my 40 years on earth Mexicans take the jobs nobody else is willing to do, like working in the fields. I'm not saying every person coming here has good intentions and I am 100% in favor of securing the border and stopping illegal immigration. There is the other issue of millions of people that have been here for a decade or more working hard, not taking handouts, with zero criminal history, just doing what the rest of us are doing. Are we going to send them back? I agree America has too many freeloaders already, and we don't need to import more. The first thing that has to happen is to stop the illegal immigration, until that happens, anything else is futile. |  |  |  
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[Re: 2bit]
 #8152022 06/08/24 07:15 PM
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 Nice poke. I like your humor.  Illegals can work regular jobs on the books just like you and me. They don't get any of the tax money back but they pay the same taxes as us. They'll never see social security but they are funding it. People paint a picture of illegals being a  bunch of leaches and welfare families, and I can say that in my 40 years on earth Mexicans take the jobs nobody else is willing to do, like working in the fields. I'm not saying every person coming here has good intentions and I am 100% in favor of securing the border and stopping illegal immigration. There is the other issue of millions of people that have been here for a decade or more working hard, not taking handouts, with zero criminal history, just doing what the rest of us are doing. Are we going to send them back? I agree America has too many freeloaders already, and we don't need to import more. The first thing that has to happen is to stop the illegal immigration, until that happens, anything else is futile.
if we had a short term worker visa, say 90 days, then they could come here pick the crops and leave when the work is done. There are solutions if your concern is no American doing some jobs. Altho there are 2 sides to that coin, they also drive down wages and push Americans out of jobs when they work willing off the books for unscrupulous employers.  As far as the tax end of it they get much more in benefits than they pay in, they get hospital care, Pregnant Mexican walks across the border and we pay the fee. They send their kids to school and we pay the bill. Insurance rates are higher due to uninsured motorists. Any illegal getting involved in the justice system is costing the tax payers. These are all high dollar expenses.  Here is the highlights of a study on the cost of illegals.. "At the federal, state, and local levels, taxpayers shell out approximately $182 billion to cover the costs incurred from the presence of more than 15.5 million illegal aliens, and about 5.4 million citizen children of illegal aliens. That amounts to a cost burden of approximately $8,776 per illegal alien/citizen child. The burden of illegal immigration on U.S. taxpayers is both staggering and crippling, with the gross cost per taxpayer at $1,156 every year. Illegal aliens only contribute roughly $32 billion in taxes at the state, local, and federal levels. This means that the net fiscal cost of illegal immigration to taxpayers totals approximately $150.7 billion." |  |  |  
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 #8152025 06/08/24 07:25 PM
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Very true. I'm glad you added that, I was thinking about it as I was typing out my argument. I will say the schools are paid with property taxes, so anyone who rents a house or owns property is paying for schools either directly or indirectly. But yes anyone working under the table is not contributing to society, they are takers, just like our politicians
 Bill Clinton nixed the worker visa program. How's that for the left being compassionate and caring of the little guy. I grew up on 80 acres of alfalfa and corn, tomatoes, barley, artichokes. The people who worked the fields were on the worker visa program. After it was abolished, they either had to leave or apply for residency. I guess it was an obsolete program since there's millions of illegals and only a hundred thousand migrant workers.
 
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Poor people ( Americans too) usually cost the taxpayers more than the taxes they pay in. We have a progressive tax system and poor people tend to use more government services because they income qualify and generally have kids. Society does benefit from the work that poor people perform. 
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WRONG! The Gov't is importing your replacement. In a Zero Hedge article , they revealed that in the last year all new jobs created went to ILLEGALS this according to Bloomberg News Service. This Invasion is ALL about destroying Western Civilization make no mistake read what is going on in Europe and Great Britian make no mistake it is in it's Infancy here but growing everyday.Hopefully Tommy Robinson (Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon) and Nigel Farage can save Great Britain. I think they should make Tommy king and Nigel Prime Minister. Tommy has shown he is willing to bleed, suffer and if need be, die for Great Britain. He would make a better king then my distant cousin Charles.  I told Diane, Nigel would run as soon as he said he wouldn't. Nigel is a master politician, high game of thrones level. The other British politicians running are terrified of him and know he can crush them mentally and verbally in debate. God save England with Reform UK! Keith |  |  |  
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 #8152052 06/08/24 08:51 PM
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Never sponged off anyone a day in my life.Unlike you crooks,i support my country and province and municipality.
Who are you calling crooks Bozo?Every American citizen?Ive had about enough of your American bashing.
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It must be tough buying off constituencies that don't get along. Blacks and Hispanics. That's likely part of the reason for the shift we're going to witness in November. |  |  |  
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 #8152054 06/08/24 08:55 PM
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If every illegal went back to Mexico this country would be crippled. I'm not saying what's right wrong or indifferent, I'm saying there's already a huge labor shortage, if the US lost that labor force, the economy would fail. Food shortages and starvation would be a reality. Just sayinNegative!! Get the people claiming they have a stubbed toe, the Tamica's with 6 chilens , the people that claimed they " hurt their back"  but can still hunt/ fish with no problem     off the Gov tit. Sickens me seeing this crap. And getting more frequent. 
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 You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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 #8152066 06/08/24 09:25 PM
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Never sponged off anyone a day in my life.Unlike you crooks,i support my country and province and municipality.
Who are you calling crooks Bozo?Every American citizen?Ive had about enough of your American bashing.Suck it up buttercup. And I wont stand you bashing Canada.
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 #8152075 06/08/24 09:41 PM
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Boco, you are full of crap. If you think "we" yanno, us idiots, are gonna believe you've never made a $$ without reporting it as income, well,...   But keep on keeping on. Your man queen love those like you. " 
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 You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Boco, you are full of crap. If you think "we" yanno, us idiots, are gonna believe you've never made a $$ without reporting it as income, well,...   But keep on keeping on. Your man queen love those like you. "He said he was "Well Read" ,,, but I think he meant "In Bred" ,,,and don;t know the difference.   
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[Re: Boco]
 #8152084 06/08/24 09:51 PM
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Never sponged off anyone a day in my life.Have all my trapping/fur records in my tax files.Worked since I was a kid and still work today.As do both of my kids.
 My Wife also worked all her life until her disability slowed her down.She still volunteers on several boards.
 Unlike you crooks,i support my country and province and municipality.
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[Re: Boco]
 #8152095 06/08/24 10:15 PM
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Go get some therapy from Doctor Phil if you cant handle it.LOL.Or better yet, don't tell lies and try in the disguise of being Mr Goodie Two Shoes. 
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 #8152120 06/08/24 11:36 PM
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I never lie cheat or steal.I despise those types.I am an honest person it is my culture and the way I was raised.
 Your problem is that since you worship a lying cheating Philandering felon you think its normal for people to be crooked.
 
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If every illegal went back to Mexico this country would be crippled. I'm not saying what's right wrong or indifferent, I'm saying there's already a huge labor shortage, if the US lost that labor force, the economy would fail. Food shortages and starvation would be a reality. Just sayinYou really think folks would sit around and starve without figuring it out and doing what needed to be done? 
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We are people who have forgotten how blessed we are. We have lifted ourselves so high we can’t even see anymore the things we believe to be beneath us. A reminder is coming, and a lot of folks aren’t going to be happy when it gets here but, somehow they will recall stories they didn’t think they were paying attention to and begin to put it together, followed shortly by “getting” it together. 
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