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Re: Biblically, what is...... [Re: bowhunter27295] #8152505
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Infidelity in the marriage, including the church marriage to Christ.


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Re: Biblically, what is...... [Re: silkyplainscoyot] #8152506
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Originally Posted by silkyplainscoyot
When Jesus Christ was on the earth, he restated this position in answer to those who asked about divorce and remarriage. He said: “Did you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and his mother and will stick to his wife, and the two will be one flesh’? So that they are no longer two, but one flesh.” Jesus added: “Whoever divorces his wife, except on the ground of fornication, and marries another commits adultery.” (Matthew 19:4-6, 9) From this it is obvious that taking one or more additional wives is also adultery

That this toleration of polygamy was only temporary can be seen not only by what Jesus stated regarding God's original standard for marriage but also by what the apostle Paul wrote under the inspiration of God’s holy spirit. He said: “Let each man have his own wife and each woman have her own husband.” (1 Corinthians 7:2)


I agree with the Bible's concept of marriage. A man marrying a woman. But again, i regards to polygamy as adultery, I can point to zero references in the Bible of this being a sin.

So, to repeat, I want to be able to tell anyone why there was polygamy in the Bible with zero punishment. I want to be able to show people, factually, where GOD said you cannot marry more than one woman. There is neither right or wrong from any verse I can specifically cite.

Yes a man will leave his father and mother and cling to his wife and the two will become one. But if a man is married to another or multiple women, who is he cheating on? They were legally (?) married in that time.

Back to subject.

Here is what I can surmise Biblically.

1. If a married person has sex with another married person who they are not married to, it is adultery.
2. If a married person has sex with and unmarried person, it is fornication.
3. If an unmarried person has sex with an unmarried person, it is fornication.

Speaking totally biblically, I can find no wrong in this finding. All three are wrong and punishable Biblically by death.

Correct me with facts please. I want to speak intelligently when questioned.


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Re: Biblically, what is...... [Re: bowhunter27295] #8152510
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James 4:3-4

3 When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures.
4 You adulterous people, don’t you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.


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Re: Biblically, what is...... [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8152513
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
James 4:3-4

3 When you ask, you do not receive, because you ask with wrong motives, that you may spend what you get on your pleasures.
4 You adulterous people, don’t you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God.


HE is a jealous GOD.


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Re: Biblically, what is...... [Re: bowhunter27295] #8152559
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To become as God's or to desire to is adultery against God.
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For the wages of sin is death.


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Re: Biblically, what is...... [Re: bowhunter27295] #8152578
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If you don't think David and Solomon were punished for having multiple wives, you should look at how messed up their families were. This was a direct result of having more than one wife.

Re: Biblically, what is...... [Re: bowhunter27295] #8152582
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If we don't think Abraham kinda messed up by not taking Gods' promise, seriously take a look at how that turned out in today's stage, and Sarah was ok with it.

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Originally Posted by BandB
If you don't think David and Solomon were punished for having multiple wives, you should look at how messed up their families were. This was a direct result of having more than one wife.

Bingo.
And look at Jacob's mess of a family.


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Re: Biblically, what is...... [Re: bowhunter27295] #8152586
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Then just when I think I am getting it all figured out there is the deal with Lot and his 2 daughters which produced the Ammonites and Moabites. Of which Ruth was from Moab and ancestor of Jesus.

Re: Biblically, what is...... [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #8152588
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Originally Posted by TreedaBlackdog
Agreed David was an adulterer with Bath-sheba. I will step out there and also offend many on here - marriage is a covenant between man and woman. Divorce and remarriage while the first spouse is still alive is adultery. Biblically. Yes, there are tons and tons of folks in churches today that according to the Bible are adulterers who are "remarried". It is not my battle to fight or argue. Its very clear in the Bible.


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This would also be representative of Christ's fulfillment of saving all of Israel.
God divorced those that broke his covenant. And through Jesus Christ there was a New wedding feast.
The first miracle of Jesus ministry. At his wedding he saved the best wine for last .
A new and better covenant. For all of the nation's of the world to partake of.


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Re: Biblically, what is...... [Re: bowhunter27295] #8152591
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Just the accusation of adultery cost John the Baptist his head.

Re: Biblically, what is...... [Re: bowhunter27295] #8152592
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What is the difference in putting away and divorcing.

Get ready set, go here comes the great replacement !

Re: Biblically, what is...... [Re: bowhunter27295] #8152596
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Just in case someone starts thinking bad blood in Jesus lines. Jesus had his own blood. If a mothers blood touches babies blood it causes miscarriage.

Even if babies blood touches mothers blood at birth I think the RH factor has to be dealt with before another pregnancy, correct me if I'm wrong.

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Originally Posted by Foxpaw
What is the difference in putting away and divorcing.

Get ready set, go here comes the great replacement !

There no difference is there?


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Re: Biblically, what is...... [Re: bowhunter27295] #8152598
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Its been my understanding if she is put away she can't remarry basically a death sentence, where as divorce she could remarry?

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Originally Posted by Foxpaw
Its been my understanding if she is put away she can't remarry basically a death sentence, where as divorce she could remarry?

I believe the Hebrew word shalach, is where putting away translation originates from.
The same word tralated as divorce in Isaiah 50:1 and half a dozen or so times in the OT.
correct me if I'm wrong.


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Re: Biblically, what is...... [Re: Giant Sage] #8152607
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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
Originally Posted by Foxpaw
Its been my understanding if she is put away she can't remarry basically a death sentence, where as divorce she could remarry?

I believe the Hebrew word shalach, is where putting away translation originates from.
The same word tralated as divorce in Isaiah 50:1 and half a dozen or so times in the OT.
correct me if I'm wrong.


I fell a sleep, lol. I'm saying "once you're divorced you can't remarry" is false doctrine. Is that what you are saying?

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Only with the exception of a spouse committing adultery can you remarry without it being considered adultery.
That's the way I understand.
I'm out for the night. Peace.


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Re: Biblically, what is...... [Re: Giant Sage] #8152611
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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
Only with the exception of a spouse committing adultery can you remarry without it being considered adultery.
That's the way I understand.
I'm out for the night. Peace.


So you saying that if a woman marries a tanner without knowing how bad he stinks and just can't stand it any longer but no adultery has occurred then if she just up and leaves him and marries a spice salesman because he smells better, then she is committing adultery . Kind of like another unpardonable sin, but I thought there was only one unpardonable sin?

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