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2A Political thread. #8152979
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From reading blips on the Web, seems like Trump is narrowing down his list of VP choices.
I hope he wins but as important, his VP pic will most likely be the next R nominee.
From the short lists I've been seeing, anyone stand out as a future President that has solid 2A standings?
"My most important issue" for without it we are....
I see Doug Bergum from ND name being brought up lately.

He just appears to be a RICH weasel to me. Don't know why ?

What kind of insights do you all have?
Please keep on topic. smile


swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Re: 2A Political thread. [Re: bucksnbears] #8152990
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Re: 2A Political thread. [Re: bucksnbears] #8153000
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According to FOX yesterday, they favor Tim Scott or Marco Rubio. I think either would be a good choice.


Didn't Jennifer Flowers get hush money from Wild Bill? I guess that was different.
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If a lady would help get him elected Carrie Lake would be a good choice.

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Originally Posted by Trapper7
According to FOX yesterday, they favor Tim Scott or Marco Rubio. I think either would be a good choice.


Surefire way to have another Dallas in November event.


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Kristi Noem. He will sweep all of the swing States, especially the ones with female Democrat governors.

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Originally Posted by 52Carl
Kristi Noem. He will sweep all of the swing States, especially the ones with female Democrat governors.


Nope, she has done shot herself in the dog so to speak. She'll lose the female vote.


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Originally Posted by 52Carl
Kristi Noem. He will sweep all of the swing States, especially the ones with female Democrat governors.


And she's purdy!

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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by 52Carl
Kristi Noem. He will sweep all of the swing States, especially the ones with female Democrat governors.


Nope, she has done shot herself in the dog so to speak. She'll lose the female vote.

Yup. She's done.

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He needs the woman who was cheated out of being Gov. Az.

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I would like to see Josh Hawley as the VP

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Kristy Noem is the only one I know that supports strongly 2A.

Her shooting a mess of a dog only solidifies my stance on her.
Scott,Rubio,Lake,Vance,ect, how do they stand on 2A?


swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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100% agree Danny!

News about it were nothing other then pulling the wokes heartstrings.

I'd love to see her as VP.

Edited to add:, ND Governor Bergum just strikes me as a swamper?




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swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Originally Posted by bucksnbears
Kristy Noem is the only one I know that supports strongly 2A.

Her shooting a mess of a dog only solidifies my stance on her.
Scott,Rubio,Lake,Vance,ect, how do they stand on 2A?

Use this site to search candidates positions: https://www.ontheissues.org/#Analysis


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This place is getting more like Facebook every day.

Re: 2A Political thread. [Re: bucksnbears] #8153603
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If Trump runs with Bergum, it would be hard for me to vote for him. I know the way Bergum runs ND. He is a D claiming to be a R.


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Originally Posted by MJM
If Trump runs with Bergum, it would be hard for me to vote for him. I know the way Bergum runs ND. He is a D claiming to be a R.

My gutt feeling also Mark.


swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Originally Posted by MJM
If Trump runs with Bergum, it would be hard for me to vote for him. I know the way Bergum runs ND. He is a D claiming to be a R.



Really? You’d vote for Biden instead? Or waste your vote?


I’ve been sayin yes sir all day at work, I’ve been sayin yes ma’am at home…
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Spike cohen for VP. He's the only one mentioned so fat that supports the 2A as written. In fact, he'd be far more 2A than Trump.

Re: 2A Political thread. [Re: bucksnbears] #8153795
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Elise Stefanik - supposedly strong 2A supporter, woman, well liked in New York, holds some fairly high positions in the house - does not seem like she scores very high on the crazy scale

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Originally Posted by WhiteCliffs
Elise Stefanik - supposedly strong 2A supporter, woman, well liked in New York, holds some fairly high positions in the house - does not seem like she scores very high on the crazy scale


She wasn't a huge Trump supporter back in his first term but she seems to have come around strongly for Trump.

One wonders but I think she's legit in her support and not just on the bandwagon.


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The issue Trump still has not just in regards to 2A is finding and keeping good solid trustworthy people that won't stab him, or us, in the back.

This is why I favor going outside the usual pool of elected folks.


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Originally Posted by bucksnbears
Originally Posted by MJM
If Trump runs with Bergum, it would be hard for me to vote for him. I know the way Bergum runs ND. He is a D claiming to be a R.

My gutt feeling also Mark.


Does this mean you'll burn your vote on a 3rd party candidate,
vote for sleepy Joe, or not cast your vote at all ??? whistle

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Re: 2A Political thread. [Re: warrior] #8153952
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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by WhiteCliffs
Elise Stefanik - supposedly strong 2A supporter, woman, well liked in New York, holds some fairly high positions in the house - does not seem like she scores very high on the crazy scale


She wasn't a huge Trump supporter back in his first term but she seems to have come around strongly for Trump.

One wonders but I think she's legit in her support and not just on the bandwagon.


She is my congressional representative in Northern New York,
and she is & has been an ardent Trump supporter since day one !!! laugh

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Re: 2A Political thread. [Re: bucksnbears] #8153962
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I wouldn't sweat the second seat as much as I would just getting the right man elected to the first chair.

If you look back over the history of the Republic the guy in the second seat has a less than 20% chance needing to step up as a spare (9) and exactly the same (9) of getting elected to the first chair in their own right. But there is about a 30% chance a second seater will become a first chair (15).


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It's all irrelevant, no way Trump is going to occupy the White House again.

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Originally Posted by warrior
I wouldn't sweat the second seat as much as I would just getting the right man elected to the first chair.

If you look back over the history of the Republic the guy in the second seat has a less than 20% chance needing to step up as a spare (9) and exactly the same (9) of getting elected to the first chair in their own right. But there is about a 30% chance a second seater will become a first chair (15).



Probably of more importance is getting the right folks into Congress, and not ol'buddy that brings home the bacon either.

We need fighters that refuse to play by the swamp rules. And I don't care what party they call themselves as long as it ain't demoncrat.

Guys, and gals, if 2A and the rest of the Constitution is to be saved we've got to vote and vote hard for candidates who put the Constitution first and foremost, ALL OF IT, ahead of party or personal gain.


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Originally Posted by kinley31
It's all irrelevant, no way Trump is going to occupy the White House again.


And your reason?

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Originally Posted by walleyed
Does this mean you'll burn your vote on a 3rd party candidate,
vote for sleepy Joe, or not cast your vote at all ??? whistlew

Bergum is a young Joe Biden. They is no way I would vote for Bergum for anything. He is a good buddy of one world order Bill Gates. I would not vote before I vote for him or Joe. I have seen his ways in ND. Do you really think we are going to vote ourselves out of this mess? That is just what the want you to think. It buys them another four year/ Maybe next time?


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Re: 2A Political thread. [Re: bucksnbears] #8154128
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Mark, I will vote Trump 100% no matter who he picks.
That being said, I'm not sure "why" I don't like Burgum?.
Overall, ND is a GREAT state but something about him makes me wonder?

What is it you don't like about him?
Is he a strong 2A supporter?


swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by 52Carl
Kristi Noem. He will sweep all of the swing States, especially the ones with female Democrat governors.


Nope, she has done shot herself in the dog so to speak. She'll lose the female vote.

That story is so yesterday no one will remember it. The women who have a problem with how work is done on a farm will likely vote for Biden no matter who he picks.

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I'd be shocked if they pick Bergeum. What does he bring to the table?


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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
I'd be shocked if they pick Bergeum. What does he bring to the table?

My guess is he's a good business man and not a career politician.
Which ain't all bad.


swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
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Originally Posted by bucksnbears
Originally Posted by Steven 49er
I'd be shocked if they pick Bergeum. What does he bring to the table?

My guess is he's a good business man and not a career politician.
Which ain't all bad.


Vivek fills that slot well plus he's young and connects with younger voters. He's also very engaging on the stump.

Berghum strikes me as just a stump. A wealthy stump.


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Originally Posted by Grandpa Trapper
Originally Posted by kinley31
It's all irrelevant, no way Trump is going to occupy the White House again.


And your reason?

They didn't want him in there the last go-around...do you think anything has changed? Other than the S&P is at an all-time high.

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Originally Posted by kinley31
Originally Posted by kinley31
It's all irrelevant, no way Trump is going to occupy the White House again.


They didn't want him in there the last go-around...do you think anything has changed? Other than the S&P is at an all-time high.


BOCO, Is that you ??? laugh

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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
I'd be shocked if they pick Bergeum. What does he bring to the table?


Until he bent the knee and embarrassed himself by showing up at the trial in New York and otherwise sucking up, I would have been OK with Burgum. He demonstrated some real success in business.

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But what does he bring to the table politically?


"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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