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308win most versatile argument #8153974
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I already went with it years ago , it is very very versatile
30-06 is of course also very versitile a round , it just doesn't have as many rifle offerings because it is long action.
the 308 is basically a modernized in 1951 30-06 to cut off the case volume not really needed with newer powders to do almost the same thing the 30-06 did.

they do offer a particular ammo that really makes it shine against your 6.5 fans

the TTSX 130gr Barnes , the get to it late in the video but it comes in flatter at 500 yards than the 6.5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syZF8Xiw0CQ

I happen to like my 180s I don't generally get a lot of long range shots on game not that it doesn't get to 400 yards just fine.
my 180gr load is 2625fps average from my 22 inch barrel rifle

they get a little cheesy but it is fun

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Re: 308win most versatile argument [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8153993
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I'll take a 30-06 six ways to Sunday.

And despite the 308's accuracy reputation, I've never seen many that impressed me.

Re: 308win most versatile argument [Re: canebrake] #8153998
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Originally Posted by canebrake
I'll take a 30-06 six ways to Sunday.

And despite the 308's accuracy reputation, I've never seen many that impressed me.


I have some 30-06 I mostly load them to 308 velocity which is basically 30-06 service rifle loads , just isn't a need for me to go full power

both are incredibly versatile and can make anything in North America dead and I don't see myself traveling outside of NA much.


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Re: 308win most versatile argument [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8154002
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308 in a bolt gun.....
30-6 yes....270probly most of the time


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Re: 308win most versatile argument [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8154018
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Change the words from "almost the same thing the 30/06 did" to "the same thing the 30/06 does" then you could make a case it might be the most versatile. You can load ur 06 down to 308 but u ain't loading ur 308 up to 06 and staying under pressure.

Re: 308win most versatile argument [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8154026
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Then someone says the 30-06 is almost the same as "insert this cartridge" then someone else is gonna say that was almost as good as the ORIGINAL "Inset another" on and on


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That's why it's called an argument I guess grin

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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Then someone says the 30-06 is almost the same as "insert this cartridge" then someone else is gonna say that was almost as good as the ORIGINAL "Inset another" on and on

It would be a very boring place if we all agree on everything.

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Originally Posted by canebrake
I'll take a 30-06 six ways to Sunday.

And despite the 308's accuracy reputation, I've never seen many that impressed me.

I agree

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Originally Posted by wetdog
Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Then someone says the 30-06 is almost the same as "insert this cartridge" then someone else is gonna say that was almost as good as the ORIGINAL "Inset another" on and on

It would be a very boring place if we all agree on everything.

Not saying agree to everything but man that train of thought gets boring quick. It's about as bad when you explain why your goin after a new caliber for a specific reason and they blow over you with a knee jerk answer.

"Well idk what's wrong with the ", insert whatever" " like my guy I just wrote you a three paragraph essay explaining why tired

Anyhoww


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Wolfdog, humans are an odd species. grin

Re: 308win most versatile argument [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8154055
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Till you want something that hits harder. You can load a heavy hitter down but cant load a 308 up.


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Sorry wolfie that I ruffled your feathers, I thought I was making a pretty valid point in this "argument"

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Originally Posted by canebrake
I'll take a 30-06 six ways to Sunday.

And despite the 308's accuracy reputation, I've never seen many that impressed me.

Operator errors.


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Used a 30-06 for many years for deer. It is a good round but I like to eat venison and the 30-06 did to much damage. So now I use a .308. I don't have long range shooting here so no real use for the 30-06 any more.

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having one do it all firearm is like having one do it all trap. why would you want to?


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I'm a 308 fan. When in the military, we had accurized M-14s, and those were some very accurate weapons. Also since we were tasked with destroying excess munitions, we did get 7.62 match grade ammo to get rid of. Some of that I destroyed one round at a time - lol. Of course I had a 308, so a lot of my ammo was cheap, and could reload that military brass over and over. I now have two 308 Winchesters

When in South Dakota, I would reload all week and go out on Saturday and shoot prairie dogs all day.


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.308 suits me just fine


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if you want to get a bunch of rifles do not buy a 308 or 30-06 first.

Originally Posted by Yes sir
Change the words from "almost the same thing the 30/06 did" to "the same thing the 30/06 does" then you could make a case it might be the most versatile. You can load ur 06 down to 308 but u ain't loading ur 308 up to 06 and staying under pressure.


the 308 does what 30-06 did in WWII
actually a little more with 2020s ammo
current 308 150gr ammo is box velocity of 2820fps

current 150gr 30-06 ammo is 2910fps with the same bullet

yes you can load 30-06 higher now but in factory offerings they are not that far apart.

Win power points
a 180gr bullet out of a 308 is 2620
a 180gr bullet out of a 30-06 2700

really 80fps is not a big deal we use the same .382bc 180gr power point in 308 and run the numbers

30-06 with a 200 yard zero is 1.9 inches high at 100 yards , and 3.4 inches low at 250yards
308 with a 200 yard zero is 2.1 inches high at 100 yards and 3.7 inches low at 250
the only thing in the calculation changed was muzzle velocity

no animal is going to know the difference in a bullet width difference on any good shot at 250 yards

since those are average velocities it is entirely possible that your slow 30-06 round and your fast 308 round are going within a few feet per second of each other

in a bolt action rifle they are really really close , but a good argument for more versatile is that the 308 fits in so many platforms
AR-10 , SFAR. lever guns , pumps , single shots , bolts a lot more offerings in 308 than 30-06

and you can cut some weight and length of your gun , as well as a little weight in the ammo , not a lot but when you pay by the ounce for light weight equipment.

if your going to pay big money to shave ounces on your back pack , your boots , your sleeping bag , why not give up 80fps to save weight on your rifle. if it only costs you 1/3 of an inch at 250 yards.


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